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Atp nuke the entire UES page and make a new one.Acausality type 3 for the entire path of erudition btw
I really wanna touch the ues page but man this verse (and staff) needs a break
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Removing Type 3 Acasuality 3 from Lygus
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Mbpoops
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Honestly this us the only time id agree with deleting a page for this verse and rewriting it
Astral_Trinity439
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Acausality type 3 for the entire path of erudition btw
I really wanna touch the ues page but man this verse (and staff) needs a break
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I don't understand why some of you are calling the use of precedence as "whataboutism"? It only doesn't work if it's applied wrongly there too.
Mbpoops
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Well because its applied correctly there
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Doesn't seem like it.
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Are you joking? It's quite literally the same thing based on the justifications unless there's more to it?
Mbpoops
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SO let me get this straight, instead of actually arguing for the ability, the support has been through the entire thread of arguing with Tensura instead... Peak..
I have said this dozens of times, don't use other verses as arguments for your own.
I have said this dozens of times, don't use other verses as arguments for your own.
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You can use other verses to apply a precedent.
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The funny part is that the ones that do only do it if they have no better/good arguments themself, and most of the time they don't even understand the verse/situation itself...
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Does that mean it would be Aca 3 if the clones were sent to a different timeline?
Mbpoops
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If those are 2-C spscetimes ig but even then lygus doesnt replace himself with them they’re just clones all doing their own thing
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Then Zandar fits without question.
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The text specifically claims that they were sent across different timelines with the goal of killing Nous. There's no doubt that they exist across different axis's. The text also says that they communicate with each other and they share the one goal of destroying Nous. This clearly means that if Lygus failed, another fragment would show up to finish the job.“2-C galaxies”
There's no thread here.
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For some reason this reminds me of the Simon vs Anti-Spiral fight...“2-C galaxies”
Astral_Trinity439
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It was you who kept pestering the supporters about Wuthering Waves and Genshin Impact having Plot Manipulation but Honkai isn't so both of these verses > Honkai (despite them being negative-diffed by the Aeons)
You were the one who's pushing for Plot Manipulation anyway, and you BLAMED ME for making that thread after I made it myself despite you being the one PUSHING for it
"Oh yeah look guys Genshin has non-combat applicable Plot Manipulation and Conceptual Manipulation Type 2, they solo Honkai!!"
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Shiro is actually a hypocrite man, I wouldn't even bring up Wuthering Waves and Genshin Impact having Plot Manipulation or not if it wasn't you who told me that they had one in which you used that as an attempt to ragebait that they solo Honkai (when they don't, really)
Who had the idea first in mind to make them have Plot Manipulation through Project Stigma? No shit, that was you, if it were me I'd push it through a different argument (that being the Honkai Salvation Log and Elation stuff)
Who had the idea first in mind to make them have Plot Manipulation through Project Stigma? No shit, that was you, if it were me I'd push it through a different argument (that being the Honkai Salvation Log and Elation stuff)
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Thing is, I made a Q&A and from the replies I noticed it wasnt going to qualify, you proceed to make the thread on your own despite that.
I have been joking about this for a while, and I only keep doing it bc you always fall for it lol. Anyways, lets not derail this thread
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Guess what happened when Castorice made Khaslana vs 4 Shades and 5 Sinners? You never noticed me about the Q&A, literally all you told me was that "why didn't you get it accepted first for like Reality Warping, Subjective Reality and Dream Manipulation before going for Plot Manipulation?" nothing about this MENTIONED the Q&A
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This basically, it's clearly 2-C given it mentions various space-times and I don't see how anyone would just strawman this part off
I legit don't see the difference between the two of them, you can see the scans I linked in the first reply. A precedent isn't a whataboutism
It doesn't change the fact that if this would pass, well might as well re-check their Acausality Type 3 as well since that's the precedent and see if that's still staying despite what @Vietthai96 said
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What does that even mean?
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It was you who kept pestering the supporters about Wuthering Waves and Genshin Impact having Plot Manipulation but Honkai isn't so both of these verses > Honkai (despite them being negative-diffed by the Aeons)
You were the one who's pushing for Plot Manipulation anyway, and you BLAMED ME for making that thread after I made it myself despite you being the one PUSHING for it
"Oh yeah look guys Genshin has non-combat applicable Plot Manipulation and Conceptual Manipulation Type 2, they solo Honkai!!"
Can I ask for both sides to stop arguing about personal matters? I am not saying anyone is at fault here but continuing this can be taken somewhere else (such as private, if so both sides want to continue their hate-love relationship).
Please refrain from derailing the CRT and focus on presenting arguments or counterarguments, and if neither, follow and watch.
Mbpoops
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Surprisingly the nep thread didnt go this bad because certain people werent there
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Nobody but OP and supporters are losing the argument however. There's clear cut evidence and justifications on top of an existing precedent
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Lygus's nine vessels are manifestations of a single consciousness rather than independent temporal or alternate-universe versions of himself. So yeah it needs to go.
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There is the precedent that was mentioned in this thread too. Unless you believe that that one should go too then?
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Again, you just fully ignored what Twilight said, Lygus is a "single consciousness", while the tensura examples, are multiple egos, thus capable of thinking and acting independently from each other.
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Hardly. I assume you are a tourist, no offense but each clone has its own free will which is why Lycurgus was able to sever his connection to Zandar and the other clones and become his own individual after his defeat.
Astral_Trinity439
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Mate, every single verse has its own context, so let's stop with this whataboutism
I didn't really want to argue over this but
Assuming what boops said, the fact that the "space time" refer to galaxies is already a disqualifier since Aca3 requires 2C distance or the other self being under a different time axis that isn't effected by the destruction of the original one (so that the destruction of one doesn't effect the other).
I won't explain how tensura ais different cuz this is NOT A TENSURA THREAD. If you want to know about that then go to Tensura's general discussion and ask it
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Whataboutism isn't comparing precedents.Mate, every single verse has its own context, so let's stop with this whataboutism
I didn't really want to argue over this but
Assuming what boops said, the fact that the "space time" refer to galaxies is already a disqualifier since Aca3 requires 2C distance or the other self being under a different time axis that isn't effected by the destruction of the original one (so that the destruction of one doesn't effect the other).
I won't explain how tensura ais different cuz this is NOT A TENSURA THREAD. If you want to know about that then go to Tensura's general discussion and ask it
The text says "spacetimes". Not galaxies. And Zandar falls under this category.
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OP makes sense to me.
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