Imitation, The Sincerest Form of Flattery; Zamasu vs Metal Sonic (DBS vs STH)

[ARandomDude127]

Alr, first time doing a super high stats battle like this

“I am invincible; no damage can destroy me. I may stumble for a moment, but I will always remain. I will defeat you and all mortalkind, and bring forth a new utopia that will never again be stained!”:

• Infinite Zamasu is used.
• Zamasu’s Complex Multiversal Scaling is granted.
• Possible Resistance to Empathic Manipulation granted.
• Zamasu’s eventual Large Size [Type 10] & Higher-Dimensional Existence [6-D] is granted.

“Well? You came here to stop me, didn’t you? Step right up.”:

• Super Neo Metal Sonic is used.
• (Super Neo) Metal Sonic’s Complex Multiversal scaling is granted.

I REFUSE the option of incon (Incon):

Notes:

Metal Sonic has a 7,230,850,998,714,375,155,482,624x LS advantage.

Da rules

Uhhh, the fight takes place on Copper 9.

SBA for anything not mentioned.​

 

[ARandomDude127]

Bump

 

[Gamin_Yoon23]

How many hypertimelines or structures does Metal scale to? Also isn’t speed equalisation one of those things that need to be specified? I double checked the SBA page and I don’t think it accounts for equalised speed by default. I could be wrong though. Following for now.

 

[ARandomDude127]

Also isn’t speed equalisation one of those things that need to be specified? I double checked the SBA page and I don’t think it accounts for equalised speed by default. I could be wrong though.

You are correct because I’m not equalizing speed, I don’t think they’re be much point to it given one’s Omnipresent and the other’s Immeasurable, but if needed I don’t mind doing it.

How many hypertimelines or structures does Metal scale to?

Let me give that a check rq

 

[JJSliderman]

1, currently.

 

[AyOgUyS]

Can Metal copy Zamasu's biodata?

 

[ARandomDude127]

Can Metal copy Zamasu's biodata?

I lowkey have no clue, but if I’m not mistaken Metal can copy things that are Paraconsistent & Abstract (Chaos Energy), so he might be able to? I might be wrong on the fact he can copy Chaos Energy though

 

[AyOgUyS]

I lowkey have no clue, but if I’m not mistaken Metal can copy things that are Paraconsistent & Abstract (Chaos Energy), so he might be able to? I might be wrong on the fact he can copy Chaos Energy though

Metal copied Shadow's Chaos Control and entered a Super Form with Sonic's biodata and the Master Emerald so I'd say yes he'd be able to copy Chaos Energy-like abilities

 

[AyOgUyS]

Immeasurable

hold on. doesn't super neo scale to 2 temporal dimensions? that might change things

 

[AyOgUyS]

I lowkey have no clue, but if I’m not mistaken Metal can copy things that are Paraconsistent & Abstract (Chaos Energy), so he might be able to? I might be wrong on the fact he can copy Chaos Energy though

oh and iirc chaos energy is accepted as being more abstract than maginaryworld's conceptual dream worlds which are type 1 concepts so that's probably also important

 

[ARandomDude127]

hold on. doesn't super neo scale to 2 temporal dimensions? that might change things

Feel like we should get more DBS supporters before we proceed

 

[AyOgUyS]

Feel like we should get more DBS supporters before we proceed

fair enough.

 

[Snek]

How does Metal Sonic have the LS advantage when Infinite Zamasu is the universe lol.

oh and iirc chaos energy is accepted as being more abstract than maginaryworld's conceptual dream worlds which are type 1 concepts so that's probably also important

Anyways if I remember correctly Goku has basic non-physical interaction to be able to hit Infinite Zamasu, so for Metal Sonic who has conceptual manipulation in addition to NPI whats stopping him from punching Zamasu to death?

 

[JJSliderman]

How does Metal Sonic have the LS advantage when Infinite Zamasu is the universe lol.

Anyways if I remember correctly Goku has basic non-physical interaction to be able to hit Infinite Zamasu, so for Metal Sonic who has conceptual manipulation in addition to NPI whats stopping him from punching Zamasu to death?

Realizing he has to cover the whole universe and also Zamasu matching his AP

 

[Snek]

Realizing he has to cover the whole universe and also Zamasu matching his AP

I was under the impression that conceptual manipulation would let Metal Sonic incap Zamasu through attacking the """justice""" concept listed under Zamasus abstract existence but if he can't do that without 6D attack range then I guess Zamasu has this unless Metal Sonic can copy his bio-data.

I'll wait for the Dragon Ball supporters and for more arguments to be made.

 

[JJSliderman]

Currently super form users do have 6-D range scaling off Solaris but they don’t usually fire off 6-D AOE attacks.

Doesn’t help Zamasu also scales to two temporal dimensions, no real speed advantage.

 

[Snek]

Currently super form users do have 6-D range scaling off Solaris but they don’t usually fire off 6-D AOE attacks.

Doesn’t help Zamasu also scales to two temporal dimensions, no real speed advantage.

Alright get this, I've thought of the best win condition for Metal Sonic.

Spoiler

What if Metal Sonic just used his invulnerablility to tank Zamasus attacks forever while he wandered the universe collecting rings. That way he could win by living past the age of the universe and outliving Zamasu.

I'm kidding of course because Zamasu fused with the fabric of the universe and not its celestial bodies. So unless that bio-data copying can do something Metal Sonic might be cooked ngl.

 

[AyOgUyS]

Currently super form users do have 6-D range scaling off Solaris but they don’t usually fire off 6-D AOE attacks.

I mean eventually I think super neo would just resort to that and it is a thing super forms do in combat, didn't super sonic shatter the egg field with just his aura?

Doesn’t help Zamasu also scales to two temporal dimensions, no real speed advantage.

well metal has like the spin dash and v maximum overdrive which amp his speed

 

[ARandomDude127]

How does Metal Sonic have the LS advantage when Infinite Zamasu is the universe lol.

Because DB LS is straight DOOKIE

UI Goku unironically gets choked out by Deku dude, that’s how bad it is

I mean eventually I think super neo would just resort to that and it is a thing super forms do in combat, didn't super sonic shatter the egg field with just his aura?

well metal has like the spin dash and v maximum overdrive which amp his speed

Can’t Metal also Duplicate himself by proxy of having Shadow’s Bio-Data? Feel like that could help here, given Metal’s up against a more haxxed Solaris.

 

[Robo432343]

Potential 1-C Zamasu vs Metal Sonic who is actually 1-C

 

[Omegabronic]

Realizing he has to cover the whole universe and also Zamasu matching his AP

He has the range to do so

Currently super form users do have 6-D range scaling off Solaris but they don’t usually fire off 6-D AOE attacks.

Considering the enemy is literally everywhere around him attacking from all directions, I am pretty sure he will realize what he needs to do considering the Super Trio were able to affect Solaris with their attacks

Doesn’t help Zamasu also scales to two temporal dimensions, no real speed advantage.

Speed Boosts + Time Stop should give him the advantage in that

I don't see how Zamasu can answer Chaos Control +... all the other haxes Metal has, in fact... I don't see how Zamasu gets passed Metal at all? Specially his regeneration

 

[AyOgUyS]

Can’t Metal also Duplicate himself by proxy of having Shadow’s Bio-Data? Feel like that could help here, given Metal’s up against a more haxxed Solaris.

Metal duplicates himself a gazillion times and the Metal army hits Zamasu with the chaos energy HAX nuke from all points in time