Chainsaw Man discussion thread

[Bruh]

I would usually call it a hyperbole, but then the story went out of it's way to call the arrows supernatural and near infinite in reserve, so it could very much be true.

Aki and Himeno are stated to be constantly dodging these arrows, so whatever the calc ends up scaling to would be their combat speed.

Just get everyone out of Athletic Human tier....god just saying that made me gag, and i'll be happy

 

[Epiccheev]

Why high end when it's stated by the story ?

Cuz i love lowball

 

[Breadbear83]

at last this recalc got accepted, was about to make the 5th bump of it

Back at Supersonic fodders! it just increases the original calc by like 1.4x, so everyone currently scaling to the feat just gets the value of the recalc, simple CRT that i could do myself tomorrow, if theres something else about the speed ratings, could be on a more important CRT, as that refers to scaling chains

CRT was made, in the meanwhile gonna make the Aki Calc

 

[Bruh]

Cuz i love lowball

Guess only one of us can stay

 

[Breadbear83]

also this would be the 3rd feat of low tiers dodging guns, there was Long blocking bullet,s Nail Fiend dodging rifle fire, and this, could this counter argument the Guns antifeats?

4 if you count the Anime

 

[GunshyFever]

could this counter argument the Guns antifeats?

Considering that this proves Aki can at least react to bullet like projectiles, then yeah.

 

[Epiccheev]

Yeah, a big plot point of so many Devil hunters dying during Katana man's arc was that they were sneak attacked by acts of terrorism featuring guns.
In a normal scenario where both combatants are on guard/aware of eachother they almost never get tagged by gunfire.

 

[Breadbear83]

Yeah, a big plot point of so many Devil hunters dying during Katana man's arc was that they were sneak attacked by acts of terrorism featuring guns.
In a normal scenario where both combatants are on guard/aware of eachother they almost never get tagged by gunfire.

also they were all fodders, you cant compare an expert devil hunter that even Makima has trust on like Aki (and others like Himeno who are still part of the special divion 4) to rookie devil hunters that are stated that they dont live long in the job

 

[Zabazab]

Man doing calc with picture is already hard enough now you only have words to work with, how do the LN guys do it ?

We don't

 

[Epiccheev]

Man doing calc with picture is already hard enough now you only have words to work with, how do the LN guys do it ?

Regular LNs will usually just use the most lowballed value for Mountains/hills.
Funnily enough, Chinese LNs do have a tendency to use extremely specific numbers when presenting a feat like "Li huan fired his Karmic beam, vaporizing Ling Fei along with 69.730.000.056 acres of farmland"

 

[AnimesFreak2]

For reference (In AP): Transformed Quanxi ~ Weakened Pochita ~< Santa Claus ~ Makima (upscales from the Snake Devil physically)

I get Quanxi hurt Pochita so she could downscale but I wouldn't say she is exactly equal considering Pochita literally one shot her while weakened no less

 

[Zabazab]

Quanxi blocked his chainsaw and then shot 3 holes through Pochita, which killed him.

 

[Epiccheev]

They were able to trade killing blows, i'd say it's fair to say they scale.

 

[Breadbear83]

CRT was made, in the meanwhile gonna make the Aki Calc

this would be the calc, does it looks fine in methodica and explanation? dont think the story points out more stuff about the Machine gun statement not being hyperbole to add it as scans

 

[GunshyFever]

this would be the calc, does it looks fine in methodica and explanation? dont think the story points out more stuff about the Machine gun statement not being hyperbole to add it as scans

The supernatural stuff and the fact that they're stated to be pretty powerful should be enough.

 

[Breadbear83]

Noticed something wrong with Eljoaki5 Oregon calc: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:ElJoaki5/Chainsaw_Man:_Michigan_&_Oregon_Sword_Full_Calc

First, for the speed, it calculates how long it would take people to fall down the 1000 Meters of average elevation from sea level of oregon, using terminal velocity and stuff, it gives a timeframe of 22.37 seconds to fall down

But then, it adds 3 more seconds (25.37 seconds) as 3 frames after people fell to the sea, the sword reaching yoru, so the the speed calc is assuming that the sword started heading to Yoru AS SOON as people started falling, but from the scan itself, its clear that the buildings forming together the sword haven't fully gotten together even while people were already midway falling:

So timeframe should be assumed maybe a few seconds shorter as the sword would start heading to Yoru after the 22.37 seconds timeframe already started, the 3 seconds can be added tho (the sword first is created, then heads to Yoru)

As for KE calc, it uses the 25.37 seconds timeframe from earlier, but that was the sword travelling to Yoru, it clearly takes the sword less time to form itself (that's what the KE calc is about), than to travell to Yoru, cuz the first one is the first step, and the second is 2 steps


So in summary, I do think it's fine that the timeframe of people starting to fall to when the sword gets to Yoru being 25.37 seconds is fine, but the sword creation finishing happens before this timeframe ends, then the timeframe of the sword travelling happens

Unsure if it would be accepted, but I'd split the 25.37 seconds timeframe in half, as it's literally 2 different steps of creation and travell

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

Hadnt touched vsbw forums in a fat minute and I come back seeing JJK's verse page as outdated now and tier 5 CSM

well outside of voting on certain things but thats like the time to read the thread and then the time to make a simple response

 

[Breadbear83]

Hadnt touched vsbw forums in a fat minute and I come back seeing JJK's verse page as outdated now and tier 5 CSM

Everyone could notice the verse was outdated with a bit of research, Teen Gojo still having unknown Physical AP, and several characters like Mahoraga with Unknown LS

And damn the calcs of the verse must have been wanked for several of them being downgraded by over 100x after people checked them (I knew High 7C uraume was wank)

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

Everyone could notice the verse was outdated with a bit of research, Teen Gojo still having unknown Physical AP, and several characters like Mahoraga with Unknown LS

And damn the calcs of the verse must have been wanked for several of them being downgraded by over 100x after people checked them (I knew High 7C uraume was wank)

The verse didnt have outdated tags outside of like Uraume for a long time, It just came in where the entire verse and all the profiles now have that tag

 

[Bruh]

this would be the calc, does it looks fine in methodica and explanation? dont think the story points out more stuff about the Machine gun statement not being hyperbole to add it as scans

Beside if it was only meant to be hyperbole, they couldve just said the arrows were "faster than sound" or "as fast as a bullet". Explicitly stating they are machine gun lv seems deliberate