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Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

hi fellas, is there a list of whats missing in the profiles? Thanks imgur I'm interested in finding scans for yall, and would like to know where to start. Thanks a bunch!
 
MichaelCalistro said:
So what do you guys now think about Dragon Ball characters being 7D just like Sonic the Hedgehog characters?
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I'm happy for them.

While some people on both sides here have a negative sentiment against the other, most of us are cool with most of them. This is probably one of the rare few places where the DB and Sonic fandoms can interact in general harmony (with the only exceptions being during heated vs matches, obviously).

So yeah, good for them!
 
So who takes it now? Does MUI pop our gilded boy like a grape as soon as the match starts? Or does SS AD the platinum monkey man into oblivion?
 
Out'o'Sound said:
Now I'm curious.
I couldn't find any calcs for this searching on my own.
Where did you see this calc?
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Ah, I've seen a few shared around on Discord (I know how that sounds since Discord calcers are infamous for doing a shit job, but it wasn't that complicated of a premise).

I'll look around and see if I can show here. Maybe it'll inspire one of us to calc it properly.
 
Few days ago there was a wind vs electricity debate (wind is peak fiction btw) on twitter and it seemed to result in light speed debates for Sonic. I was actually surprised to see there were a good number of people who didn't think the light speed dash was light speed

MichaelCalistro said:
So what do you guys now think about Dragon Ball characters being 7D just like Sonic t he Hedgehog characters?
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I'm a Dragon Ball fan myself so if Sonic and Dragon Ball are both getting respect put on them I'm happy!!
 
ZespeonGalaxy said:
If sonic was a pokemon what type would he be and why is it not normal

Super sonic is fairy/Fight or just pure stellar btw
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He’d be Normal-type with maybe Fighting as a secondary type. People keep saying he’d be Electric, Flying or Ground for specific reasons, but imo those three types are represented better by just being coverage with moves like Thunder Punch, Zing Zap, Acrobatics, Hurricane, High Horsepower, etc. Normal makes sense as it represents Sonic being kinda just some guy, plus it means he gets STAB on moves like Quick Attack and Extreme Speed which just makes sense.

For his abilities there are a lot of valid options. Wind Rider, Speed Boost, Moxie, Guts, Defiant, Adaptability, Quick Feet, etc.

For Super Sonic I think your options of Fairy or Stellar makes sense. His ability would realistically be something like Wonder Guard to simulate his invulnerability, though if you wanted something more “balanced” you could give him something like Fairy Aura or maybe a custom ability that just increases his defensive stats.
 
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Shadow: (dark/fairy)
Tails: (flying/normal)
Knuckles: (Ground)
Amy: (Fairy/Normal)
Silver: (Psychic)
Blaze: (Fire/Fairy)
Rouge (Fly/Dark)
Espio: (Psychic/Normal)
Vector: (Water)
Charmy (Bug/Normal)
Metal (Steel/Dark)
Chaos (Water/Dark)
Sage (steel/psychic)
Mighty (Ground/Normal)
Ray (Fly/Normal)
Gamma: (Steel/Normal)
Marine (Normal/Water)

Not sure what babylon rogues or idw or eggman could be. I wanna say psychic dark for eggman but idkkk
 
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ZespeonGalaxy said:
Shadow: (dark/fairy)
Tails: (flying/normal)
Knuckles: (Ground)
Amy: (Fairy/Normal)
Silver: (Psychic)
Blaze: (Fire/Fairy)
Rouge (Fly/Dark)
Espio: (Psychic/Normal)
Vector: (Water)
Charmy (Bug/Normal)
Metal (Steel/Dark)
Chaos (Water/Dark)
Sage (steel/ghost)
Mighty (Ground/Normal)
Ray (Fly/Normal)
Gamma: (Steel/Normal)
Marine (Normal/Water)

Not sure what babylon rogues or idw or eggman could be. I wanna say psychic dark for eggman but idkkk
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I’d probably give Knuckles fighting type as well. Espio possibly Dark/Fighting and make Charmy Bug/Flying

Mephiles - (Dark/Ghost)
Light Gaia - (Fairy)
Dark Gaia - (Dark)
Infinite - (Dark/Psychic)
Cream - (Fairy/Flying)
Big - (Water/Normal)
Honey - (Fighting)
Gemerl & Emerl - (Steel/Fighting)
Metal Knuckles - (Steel/Fighting)
Tails Doll - (Ghost/Flying)
Zavok - (Dark/Fire)
Iblis - (Fire/Rock)
Black Doom (Dark/Psychic)
 
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Was able to find a couple of cool things. The JP manual states that Techno Tower in Knuckles Chaotix gathers light energy in page 41, which should support the validity of these lasers

Also in the Unleashed Encyclopedia (assuming Recompiled is accurate?) has this to say about Nightmares
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It roughly translates to "Amplified by Dark Gaia, these monsters are manifestations of people's anxieties, madness, and nightmares. They are low-intelligence beings, and their sole purpose is to harm people." And the kanji for madness seems to be the same for madness/insanity. I like it bc it backs up Sonic not going mad from the World Rings and is like the billionth piece of evidence backing up Sonic's mental strength and it's cool!!!
 
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The next issue of Sonic x DC is out and...

First Eggman got two new outfits in this one issue and while he looks good in the Lex suit, the pink bath robe proves that the goat can rock absolutely anything and still look good. Also not only was Soleonna in the issue but also Null Space too although I'm not sure if DC has it's own realm of the same name or not but still it's pretty neat. Last if this really is the Null Space from Sonic Forces I have a hunch that at the end of the next issue Sonic and Flash will tear open a portal for the group to escape via a double boost, I'm sure Flash could figure out the technique or use his own alternative to it and the both of them breaking out of Null Space to bring everyone back to one of their worlds could go kind of hard.
 
AyOgUyS said:
The thing is: it seems like Solaris is causing the multiverse's destruction through the Eyes of Solaris breaking down space and time other time rather than its own power.
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???

No.

Eggman literally says, verbatim, that Solaris is a superdimensional entity and the Eyes of Solaris are extensions of Solaris's power. Solaris even USES them as an attack in his boss fight. We literally see the world start to to crumple under the very presence of Solaris/upon Solaris's creation.
 
ZothythoTheNephalem said:
Eggman literally says, verbatim, that Solaris is a superdimensional entity and the Eyes of Solaris are extensions of Solaris's power.
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I know where super dimensional comes from but where is it said the Eyes of Solaris are extensions of its power
ZothythoTheNephalem said:
Solaris even USES them as an attack in his boss fight.
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I suppose that is a fair point but currently the profiles make it seem like all of Solaris' attacks are 1-C when that doesn't make sense to me.
ZothythoTheNephalem said:
We literally see the world start to to crumple under the very presence of Solaris/upon Solaris's creation.
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Do we? There's a flash of light and none of the characters are damaged at all, we don't even see the universe getting destroyed.
 
AyOgUyS said:
I'm lowkeuinely starting to doubt 1-C Solaris yall...
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I don't use dimensional tiering personally but I feel like being an extra-dimensional being and destroying a Low 1-C or 1-C cosmology, even overtime, is enough to be 1-C. Plus even if it's overtime, it's rapid enough to reasonably scale, especially since it would take Solaris an hour at most imo. Shadow goes "the space-time rift is expanding, there's no more time, I need to hurry." Which further goes to show that Solaris is rapidly doing this

I have to disagree on the cast being fine from the light that engulfed everything. They seemed to have been saved by the spatial distortion, and the sky itself was reduced to a strange void with no celestial bodies. Plus, Solaris even attacks the super hedgehogs with the same light. The Japanese script states that Solaris has absorbed various dimensions into himself by the time the fight began, and couldn't be attacked half-heartedly, and we see during phase 1 if you try to attack Solaris with non-charged attacks, it will not register the hit.

I'd also like to note as small supporting evidence that the Encyclospeedia refers to Solaris' lasers as "world-ending"
 
AyOgUyS said:
I suppose that is a fair point but currently the profiles make it seem like all of Solaris' attacks are 1-C when that doesn't make sense to me.
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It's stated in page 163 of the Sonic Encyclo-speed-ia that Mephiles used the Chaos Emeralds to fuse with Solaris, so it gets the benefit of a Universal Energy System. (Note: It needs to be made more official that Chaos Energy is a UES, as it's currently treated as such but is bot stated anywhere explicitly. Still, we've got plenty of CRTs to finish before even tackling that.)

The alternative is Solaris being Low 1-C with 1-C hax, which... it's not too outlandish compared to a lot of other weird things in other verses, but I find it a bit dubious.
AyOgUyS said:
Do we? There's a flash of light and none of the characters are damaged at all, we don't even see the universe getting destroyed.
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I can't believe Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Silver, Rouge, Omega, and Shadow all TANKED universal destruction on-screen. BEASTS.

The characters being alive is just Plot Induced Stupidity, because there would be no heroes to save the day. The game guide even states (I don't have the page atm, sorry) that Solaris has fractured reality (EDIT: the Sonic Encylo-speed-ia references the same idea of a "fractured reality" on page 164). Assuming that the universe wasn't torn asunder, it would still be Low 2-C due to "significantly affecting" a space-time and leaving it beyond a state of ordinary repair.
 
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TheStinkeer said:
Sonic tanked it while dead btw, Sonic characters' corpses are 1-A and solos your favorite verse!!!!
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TRVTH NVKE!!!
TheStinkeer said:
btw fractured reality is on page 164 of the Encyclospeedia at the "End of the World" stage description
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Ah, it's in a more recent source as well, excellent. That's good to show the consistent intent. I'll edit my comment.
 
AyOgUyS said:
I know where super dimensional comes from but where is it said the Eyes of Solaris are extensions of its power
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... They are the Eyes of SOLARIS... what else would they be? Plus... as Eggman says, he is literally eating/consuming the timelines into himself

AyOgUyS said:
I suppose that is a fair point but currently the profiles make it seem like all of Solaris' attacks are 1-C when that doesn't make sense to me.
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It is a less effective attacks than all of his other ones btw

AyOgUyS said:
Do we? There's a flash of light and none of the characters are damaged at all, we don't even see the universe getting destroyed.
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The flash of light is him merely being "born"... and we are told they didn't die cuz they got caught in a space-time intersection, aka... they just got lucky

Also... we DO see the universe getting destroyed, what do you think the "End of the World" is?
 
TheStinkeer said:
I don't use dimensional tiering personally but I feel like being an extra-dimensional being and destroying a Low 1-C or 1-C cosmology, even overtime, is enough to be 1-C. Plus even if it's overtime, it's rapid enough to reasonably scale, especially since it would take Solaris an hour at most imo. Shadow goes "the space-time rift is expanding, there's no more time, I need to hurry." Which further goes to show that Solaris is rapidly doing this

I have to disagree on the cast being fine from the light that engulfed everything. They seemed to have been saved by the spatial distortion, and the sky itself was reduced to a strange void with no celestial bodies. Plus, Solaris even attacks the super hedgehogs with the same light. The Japanese script states that Solaris has absorbed various dimensions into himself by the time the fight began, and couldn't be attacked half-heartedly, and we see during phase 1 if you try to attack Solaris with non-charged attacks, it will not register the hit.

I'd also like to note as small supporting evidence that the Encyclospeedia refers to Solaris' lasers as "world-ending"
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ShakeResounding said:
It's stated in page 163 of the Sonic Encyclo-speed-ia that Mephiles used the Chaos Emeralds to fuse with Solaris, so it gets the benefit of a Universal Energy System. (Note: It needs to be made more official that Chaos Energy is a UES, as it's currently treated as such but is bot stated anywhere explicitly. Still, we've got plenty of CRTs to finish before even tackling that.)

The alternative is Solaris being Low 1-C with 1-C hax, which... it's not too outlandish compared to a lot of other weird things in other verses, but I find it a bit dubious.

I can't believe Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Silver, Rouge, Omega, and Shadow all TANKED universal destruction on-screen. BEASTS.

The characters being alive is just Plot Induced Stupidity, because there would be no heroes to save the day. The game guide even states (I don't have the page atm, sorry) that Solaris has fractured reality (EDIT: the Sonic Encylo-speed-ia references the same idea of a "fractured reality" on page 164). Assuming that the universe wasn't torn asunder, it would still be Low 2-C due to "significantly affecting" a space-time and leaving it beyond a state of ordinary repair.
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Omegabronic said:
... They are the Eyes of SOLARIS... what else would they be? Plus... as Eggman says, he is literally eating/consuming the timelines into himself


It is a less effective attacks than all of his other ones btw


The flash of light is him merely being "born"... and we are told they didn't die cuz they got caught in a space-time intersection, aka... they just got lucky

Also... we DO see the universe getting destroyed, what do you think the "End of the World" is?
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Hm oki doki
 
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