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Port of Confluctor's page from https://all-fiction-battles.fandom.com/wiki/Black_Bolt_(Marvel_Comics)
All work done by him and yadda-yadda.
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Marvel: Black Bolt AFB port
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Port of Confluctor's page from https://all-fiction-battles.fandom.com/wiki/Black_Bolt_(Marvel_Comics)
All work done by him and yadda-yadda.
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His base key hurting voyager should either be removed or black bolt should vary up to 3-C, because voyager is 3-C, His dna era/kree emperor key should probably be unknown since gladiator isn’t usable for scaling and we don’t have a profile for Vulcan, his post terrigen bomb key should be 9-B+ because it scales to Karnak whose 9-B+, although tbh personally I think it should be 9-C or something since him being the same species as Karnak shouldn’t justify scaling
Other then that everything looks good
Other then that everything looks good
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Not the Voyager we're talking about.
Vulcan is 5-B, just, I want the Black Bolt page out before I adapt the Vulcan one
eh maybe sure
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My bad
All right then,
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we are talking about a 400 issue character, who was getting a new powerset every other event in the 2010s, so probably yeah
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It's a character with decades worth of content, I believe the keys are there for a more correct portrayel of power, as well as easier scaling for future profiles/revamps.It seems good, but it is necessary with so many keys? The page look bloated.
IMO, he should also receive the treatment of two profiles. One Classic and Modern. Although that would require a full re-evaluation of the profile. So take as just an opinion.Can't they be compressed into a lower amount? It seems unnecessary and very hard to read for visitors.
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I mean best option would be a Classic/Modern page split, ig.
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but idk, ill be blunt I don't have the hours to sit down with Confluctor to split the file midway, this is a simple porting job and if someone is inclined to do that, sure.
I just adapted the page because it's a clear upgrade from the current one, so yeah that's the mindset we're in rn
I just adapted the page because it's a clear upgrade from the current one, so yeah that's the mindset we're in rn
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i will combust
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The city level end comes from an unevaluated calc
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ill get it eval'd sure
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Maybe the shockwave will push the references.
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Besides the reference problems(TECHNICALLY what's there is how to PROPERLY do references, but it looks much uglier) this is good.
But, if you want a much cleaner profile, I recommend merging the tabbers for AP and below, instead of just doing it like that.
Or, if you want to really have fun, do the tabbers like I did for Stukov, inserting them into the start of Powers and Stats and basically replacing the keys section with the big tabber. That is multiple times more painful though, fair warning.
But, if you want a much cleaner profile, I recommend merging the tabbers for AP and below, instead of just doing it like that.
Or, if you want to really have fun, do the tabbers like I did for Stukov, inserting them into the start of Powers and Stats and basically replacing the keys section with the big tabber. That is multiple times more painful though, fair warning.
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I suppose that the keys can remain, but all of the different statistic sections need to be ordered under the same set of tabbers. One tabber for each statistics type is unacceptable as it sets a very bad precedent and is extremely hard for viewers to organise properly for coherent viewing.
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This is ugly
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I have a question which seems more like a mistake made but why is that Black Bolt in his Return to Earth
Another one his Return to Earth key is scaling
DnA Era/Kree Emperor
Lifting strenght section is linking to Vulcan's page which doesn't exist is there a plan there?
Stamina section doesn't have statistics only text shouldn't there be a rank there? Is it Superhuman since it's what he currently scales from?
then Iluminati key
Where did the high hypersonic+ came from?
Another one his Return to Earth key is scaling
But where did Supersonic came from? He is even scaling to Reed Sue The Thing and Namor who are Hypersonic not Supersonic.
DnA Era/Kree Emperor
Lifting strenght section is linking to Vulcan's page which doesn't exist is there a plan there?
Stamina section doesn't have statistics only text shouldn't there be a rank there? Is it Superhuman since it's what he currently scales from?
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My calcs are being used, the Sub-Relativistic+ missile calc and the Massively Hypersonic solar flare calc I made for my thread. The feats can stay, but the values need to be changed:
For the missile feat, it's very ambiguous if Black Bolt's deflection of the first missile affected it's speed, so it's possible the missile's initial speed wasn't the same as after the deflection.
For the solar flare feat, the calc is wrong, Black Bolt clearly crosses a farther distance than the solar flare and reacts to it at close range, and given flares move at the speed of light, this would grant Black Bolt at least FTL peak speed.
That's all.
For the missile feat, it's very ambiguous if Black Bolt's deflection of the first missile affected it's speed, so it's possible the missile's initial speed wasn't the same as after the deflection.
For the solar flare feat, the calc is wrong, Black Bolt clearly crosses a farther distance than the solar flare and reacts to it at close range, and given flares move at the speed of light, this would grant Black Bolt at least FTL peak speed.
That's all.
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Fixed
Fixed
Fixed
Ugh, please just do this on the speed thread application because you're going to change all of this stuff anyways.
Or at least give me a value on the missile feat
That is going to look unfathomably ugly.I suppose that the keys can remain, but all of the different statistic sections need to be ordered under the same set of tabbers. One tabber for each statistics type is unacceptable as it sets a very bad precedent and is extremely hard for viewers to organise properly for coherent viewing.
I simply do not have time to massively reformat a page based on what is "pretty" (If I did I would be spending it on the multitude of stalled revisions). If there are any glaring technical faults, please correct that. File-splitting or general prettification can be done any time of the day, the current version of the file is straight up lacking.
Genuinely, take it or leave it. This is neither the first or the last thread ever for Black Bolt. Please just check it on a technical basis, apply it, and change around stuff at your own pace.
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Can we not just flap FTL for the Solar Flare? Otherwise, use the MHS value for the Solar Flare feat. If you want to use the missile, then I suppose you could use the NASA space launch thing.
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I feel you could argue this for a lot of more prominent marvel characters like Thor or Hulk tbh
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Thor yes, he needs way more keys.
Hulk, eh.
But keying is literally the best way to deal with jank scaling.
Hulk, eh.
But keying is literally the best way to deal with jank scaling.
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Explains the consistent changes in portal tll
That’s a separate discussion (that applies to DC just as much as Marvel) however
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Thor has enough content for three different profiles.
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Wouldn't it be easier to put all the stats of each key on it's respective tabber section? Like, i think most part of the "ugly" thing on the profile is seeing all that kinda mixted up.
And, hell, that's a very good and well indexed profile
And, hell, that's a very good and well indexed profile
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Yeah that’s a good idea, we have tanners for AP for far less and honestly I wonder if it should become more of a requirement
I know the maker, he’ll love
To hear that
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It must have been a really hard work to search such amount of information, so, he deserves the recognition, jajaja
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Its not just that the profile isn't "pretty" its bordering on unreadable
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???
Every relevant detail's bolded and the keys get mentioned everywhere in the file. Unless you're dyslexic I don't get how it's unreadable.
Every relevant detail's bolded and the keys get mentioned everywhere in the file. Unless you're dyslexic I don't get how it's unreadable.
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How tho? All the relevant details are clearly bolded and the keys are clear
It’s nowhere near the most verbose page on the site
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No, it would follow our standard formatting to have the attack potency, speed, durability, etc. statistics for each tabber key be grouped together, and be much easier to understand for viewers. I don't see how it would be uglier than the current formatting.
Is somebody else here willing to reorganise the sandbox draft accordingly please? Because we cannot apply too random and hard to overview formatting standards.
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I did this, just putting all together in the way i'd do the profileIs somebody else here willing to reorganise the sandbox draft accordingly please? Because we cannot apply too random and hard tooverview formatting standards.
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Ratings look fine but wouldn't using one tabber be better for the entire statistics section (Minus the PnA)?
And how about using border template too.
I can help if you're having difficulty dealing with them. Used to creating long tabbers
And how about using border template too.
I can help if you're having difficulty dealing with them. Used to creating long tabbers
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that'w what i said, jajaj
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Help with the tabbers would be very appreciated. Thank you.
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