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God of War Discussion Thread

So...
Deimos vs mid-tier Norse fellas (Freyr? Thrúd? Baldur?) should be a possibility, right?
 
Planck69 said:
Freyr is decently stronger, but not any oneshot gap anymore. Baldur is blessed with Invulnerability to all threats, physical or magical. Thrud would technically be fair but lol.
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Since i can't just "Baldur has just lost his invulnerability" and make it add-able, i'll study if magic is making it impossible to matchmake Deimos and Freyr and Thrúd maybe could put up a bit of a challenge because Mjölnir consciously helping may lead to some slightly unpredictable combos
 
DaReaperMan said:
Yeah give the guy who instantly regenerates Low-Mid levels of damage and can adapt to the Blades of Chaos a full wealth of stamina against someone who can't do anything against that lol
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Fortunately drinking more coffee made me think a bit less like a crackhead and now i can study less crazy possibilities lol
 
Will GoW's immeasurable speed be brought up again? I noticed the OP mentioned it's gonna be recreated in another CRT as the staffs just remained neutral to it.
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Hey. Just an expansion to Divine Magic and other general abilities, some resistances, Intelligence upgrades, and a big possible speed upgrade. Part 2 coming soooonnn Divine Magic addition Immortality Negation(Types 1, 2, 3, 4 &7) (Virtually everyone kills the same creatures as Kratos)...
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Nonynho said:
Since i can't just "Baldur has just lost his invulnerability" and make it add-able, i'll study if magic is making it impossible to matchmake Deimos and Freyr and Thrúd maybe could put up a bit of a challenge because Mjölnir consciously helping may lead to some slightly unpredictable combos
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Inspecting a bit further, i can see, out of those options that sounded interesting to me:

Freyr having Seidr and Alfheim's stuff besides Bifrost makes this too close to a stomp for comfort, because Bifrost only has Duraneg as trouble, and the other two have many ways to reduce stats, corruption, curse, and other stuff that could be too problematic for Deimos

Thrúd and Mjölnir, though, have only Duraneg as stuff that Deimos won't immediately resist, which could be very dangerous but as we can see the possibility of Deimos outskilling her, does not become unfair

Any opposition?
 
Davi009997 said:
Could Kratos from God of War: Ghost of Sparta beat Hades or Poseidon
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Only chance would be against Poseidon if, and only under this condition, he had his power level from the start of GoW3 without needing to suck Athena's powers with the Blade of Olympus

But our Magic page seems to indicate that's not the case

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It seems to indicate that
GoS Kratos < (can't remember how big of a) gap < Start of GoW2 Kratos ~ Ares ~ Athena < stomp gap < Poseidon =< Start of GoW3 Kratos
 
Nonynho said:
Only chance would be against Poseidon if, and only under this condition, he had his power level from the start of GoW3 without needing to suck Athena's powers with the Blade of Olympus

But our Magic page seems to indicate that's not the case



It seems to indicate that
GoS Kratos < (can't remember how big of a) gap < Start of GoW2 Kratos ~ Ares ~ Athena < stomp gap < Poseidon =< Start of GoW3 Kratos
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The gap between second-generation Olympians and the Brother Kings is there but no longer an effortless oneshot (even if they do lose to the Big Three any time).

But yeah, GoS Kratos is just Ares tier at most.
 
Planck69 said:
The gap between second-generation Olympians and the Brother Kings is there but no longer an effortless oneshot (even if they do lose to the Big Three any time).

But yeah, GoS Kratos is just Ares tier at most.
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I've found four better quality scans (Art of GOWII, Official Cookbook) for current Cosmology. Would you like to replace them?
 
I know Sons of Sparta messed up a lot of the scaling due to it retconning a lot, but isn't it possible that a lot of it can be argued that most of the characters just weren't at their peak yet? We know the Olympians got stronger over time, is it not possible the same could be said for the Titans and Primordials? But then you run into the issue of people like Gaia and Thanatos getting dogged by people they should be stronger than with the new scaling so it's all kind of ******. Although, for the things like the big 3 no longer being way stronger than the other Gods due to people like Apollo challenging Poseidon, was it explicitly stated he meant he was going to fight Poseidon physically or through his army like Ares did to Athena by attacking Athens? And even if he meant to actually challenge Poseidon to a straight fight, the Gods are known to be incredibly arrogant and downright stupid, we see how many of the Gods thought they could actually beat Kratos during GoW 3 when at that point he had genuinely almost killed Zeus. Not to mention Hades did get upset at Zeus and actually challenged him before being scared into submission in the GoW 2 novel, so it's not impossible Apollo did something similar. I'm just trying to rationalize all the contradictions, a part of me wonders if due to Kratos toning down what actually happened during his story to Calliope, some of what he said was altered or just not true, but there is too much speculation to say anything like that.
 
What would Greek Kratos’ lifting strength be if we only take the gameplay into account? Like, without considering lore statements, guidebook descriptions, or other external material.
 
Davi009997 said:
What would Greek Kratos’ lifting strength be if we only take the gameplay into account? Like, without considering lore statements, guidebook descriptions, or other external material.
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Uh, whatever flipping Tyr's temple gets, since by Kratos' own words in-game at that time he is "weak"
 
Davi009997 said:
What would Greek Kratos’ lifting strength be if we only take the gameplay into account? Like, without considering lore statements, guidebook descriptions, or other external material.
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What does "lore statements" mean here? Like, Atlas is holding up the world. Do we consider Gaia's narration "lore" or?
 
I use ChatGPT to write, so I apologize if my question was phrased incorrectly. I was mainly asking about feats shown directly in gameplay
 
"Apologies once again, I completely messed up my phrasing and even gave ChatGPT the wrong instructions for the translation.

What I actually meant to ask about were Quick Time Events (QTEs). I was referring specifically to those moments where Kratos has to lift or resist something and the player has to press buttons to succeed."
 
Alexander said:
Again, remind me what are the arguments for infinite speed that i forgot?
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Well, we're going to Immeasurable, but aside from that, off the dome currently;
Greece:
  • Sisters of Fate can send out projections at infinite speed, stated verbatim.
  • Sisters of Fate can manage threads for all living and non-living beings, of which there are infinite.
  • Ouranos and the Primordials physical forms dwarf the World of Man, which is infinite in size.
  • Helios's lights up the Underworld, which is infinite in size.

Norse:
  • Valkyries can appear at any battle in the Nine Realms, which are infinite in size.
  • The shockwaves of Thor's clash with Jormugandr shook the Yggdrasil, which is infinite in scope.
  • Nidhogg's children can devour the Nine Realms given time, which are infinite in size.
  • The final blow from Surtr, which covers an infinite branch of the Yggdrasil and would have ended all of reality if not for Kratos and his allies.
 
I'm thinking about throwing Thor at an instance of Kratos
Would Ghost Of Sparta Kratos stomp via layers or something alike with the divine weapons?
 
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