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what i meant is.
Why are we assuming that that's the curvature of earth and not some power point presentation?
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The Incredibles - I GOT THIS !!! <---(Last incredibles movie he saw was 7 years ago)
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Why are we assuming that that's the curvature of earth and not some power point presentation?
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I'll look at the scans later but wasn't the whole point that he used a space ship to launch the special plane with the robot?
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That end isn't what I wanna focus on, (I think that one's stupid too) it's the rocket speed/re-entry end that I think might be worth looking into
If Bob downscales from that, it could work as support for 7-C
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I'm concerned because of 2 things:
- This is provably on me because i didn't watch this movie on a while, is it ever stated that that was a rocket that could go to space?
- I don't think it can be applied as KE rules would need the omnidroid to do at least some type of high level damage, not just damaging
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mh... can we also use the other speed calc as supporting for rel/ftl scaling?
also are these calcs good as they are or do they need eval?
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I have no clue if that one's even canon tbh
They're from a different site, so they'll need reevaluation here
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oh well, at this point, if there isn't any evaluated calc that support the hypershock statement at the moment, let's do the High 8-C upgrade for now
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gang, I have bad news, the Omnidroid didn't directly experience the atmospheric re-entry, it just smootly transitioned from rocket to fighter jet, so that calc's bunk
F*CK
Oh well, High 8-C ain't bad ig
F*CK
Oh well, High 8-C ain't bad ig
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don't worry i'll eventually go and make a calc about ice creation of frozone.... i hope
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Mayybbeee we could upgrade the Omnidroid calc to fighter jet speed? That'd probably get like... 8-A
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MMMMMMH, how about we find the distance of syndrome island and with that we find the speed of the Omnidroid travelling? (in a way that doesn't come of as a massive outlier)
There must be some way to locate his island by mr incredible going there with a the private plane.
Your idea is good too, altho we should get some justification (?)
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Wait, hold on, when we see the jet get launched, it's roughly on par with the previous falling speed, and since the jet had no parachute or protection of any kind, a portion of the speed must've been transferred over, and the thing is referred to as being more of a glider than a jet, so maybe the calc can be salvaged based on that??? Idk, I might just be pulling at straws here
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ok, assuming the jet was still roughly going at half the reentry speed due to the transfer of momentum (which I'll assume to be the speed of an ICBM since it's literally stated to be one), then we'd get 0.5 * 9238397.45956 * (6705.6/2)^2 = 5.192565e+13 joules or 12.4105 Kilotons (7-C)
we might be saved gang
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hold on, since this is a case of an object losing mass rather than gaining it, the velocity would actually remain the same, so the true KE is 49.642 Kilotons (not accounting for drag though, so I might need to do some more calcs)
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u should prolly do a blog about this
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i think i'll do some frozone calcs myself
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Without UES it just scales to Frozone
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Mr.Incredible and the omnidroid from my knowlege can break free of his ice
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Energy to create ice is not the same as Ice's Durability.
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we do also have to take into account that in verse Mr.Incredible is the strongest super alive
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Homelander about to be fed to Mr. Incredible - BASED
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I responded. I'm sorry.
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you should prolly use something like air-drag coefficent to count for speed loss
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I responded back, though I kinda get where you're coming from
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let's see if he doesn't get a massive upgrade last ep
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what are the current arguments here? Is OP up to date?
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I'm here, so originally the verse was supposed to get 7-C scaling for hight tiers, Baseline 9-B for everyone (at most 7-C).
Currently the aviable calcs would only allow the verse to get at most High 8-C, but if you could wait for IDK3465 to fix his calc we could (maybe) still have enough arguments for 7-C scaling.
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This thread title got me weak 
anyways agree
anyways agree
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I responded to Bambu, asking for clarification on the speed at which he wants me to use in the recalc
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then let's wait and see how it comes out
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okie just let me know then when its done
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I should probably note that Bob is still, at best, only kinda downscaling from this since he wasn't able to break through the hull of the Omnidroid on his own, but given how he could still tank getting hit by its rocket claws, which could breach the hull, and how he could still deal damage the weak points of the earlier model, I'd say it still works out as support for the 7-C stuff
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so at least 7-C at most 7-C+?
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From what Masked can tell, Mr. Bambu's only concern was with the nonexistent supporting feats.
He rejected the high end for Gamma Jack
Masked has a question, though:
Can the Omnidroid's durability actually be used as a supporting feat for 7-C Mr. Incredible?
It is noted on the profile that the Omnidroid's claws are the only thing hard enough to penetrate it., which is accepted as piercing damage.
Mr. Incredible can't harm it at all, and can't free himself from its claws.
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I'd say just 7-C is better. I just wanted to point out how the calc still supports the rating even if Bob doesn't flat-out scale to it
While you're right that he wasn't able to harm its main body in any significant way, and the piercing damage did definitely help, he still tanked the claw impact head-on when a lot of the damage to the hull came from kinetic energy, so he should still be roughly in the same ballpark as it, even if he doesn't flat-out scale.
He also casually destroyed an earlier model when he was still out of shape. In fact, the only reason he initially struggled to take V.8 down was that he believed it was a government prototype, which made him hold back. Considering both the V.8 and the V.10 were made of the same material, it just further supports Bob being in the 7-C range.
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yeah, looks better
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Uh
He never "casually destroyed" an earlier model, since he resorted to outsmarting it.
When he says "the only thing hard enough to penetrate it is itself" he even has a flashback to that older model, since he used its claws against it too.
He is indeed able to destroy its joints, but they also seem weaker than the main shell, and are even retracted into the main shell when it lands, protecting them from the impact.
Masked won't argue further, since they aren't sure if the impact of the claw is enough to scale.
They will wait to see what staff thinks about this.
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By "casually destroy it," I was referring to the limbs and head, since even if they weren't directly on the outside and were weaker, they were probably made of the same stuff as the armor plating, since they also tanked bathing in the lava the exact same way, and also, why would Syndrome leave such an obvious weak spot for Bob? He has the necessary material, why wouldn't he use it to add more protection?
Anyway, it's getting late for me rn, I'll see you guys tomorrow
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