Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

[Sus]

to elaborate on the black flash part, it cannot be a simple durability increase

mahoraga is hurt by regular punches that didn't even have blue in them, yet he was unfazed by 2 black flashes

aside from this contradiction, to take on a black flash mahoraga has to be more durable than sukuna who was heavily damaged by it
its shown that mahoraga is much less durable than sukuna

 

[Arkenis]

and no, mahoraga will only adapt to chakra itself if given alot of time like vs dabura

It depends on whats optimal, we see this with infinity. He adapted to it through altering ce. He'd just alter himself or ce to become invul to the energy.

And Gojo was weak so his BF was weaker.

 

[Sus]

It depends on whats optimal, we see this with infinity. He adapted to it through altering ce. He'd just alter himself or ce to become invul to the energy.

ehhh, i can see it, i remember smth about basic CE attacks being useless against him (might be wrong idk) so its the same with basic chakra attacks

And Gojo was weak so his BF was weaker.

why did mahoraga shield sukuna who's more durable than him then?

you could say regeneration but mahoraga only took knockback, when he was clearly damaged by no-blue punches

adaptation seems more logical than durability

 

[Arkenis]

why did mahoraga shield sukuna who's more durable than him then?

To protect him. Doesn't matter if Sukuna's stronger Mahoraga is supposed to protect him.

when he was clearly damaged by no-blue punches

adaptation seems more logical than durability

Which instance are you referring to being damaged by punches?

 

[Sus]

Which instance are you referring to being damaged by punches?

six seven

 

[Arkenis]

Eh, yeah I'd just say BF is weaker cuz Gojo's weaker. Its already an anomaly for ce, doubt it follows a strict increase.

 

[Sus]

Eh, yeah I'd just say BF is weaker cuz Gojo's weaker. Its already an anomaly for ce, doubt it follows a strict increase.

maybe its a combination of both durability and adaptation idk

but gojo wasn't THAT much weaker especially that BF restores his output

 

[Arkenis]

maybe its a combination of both durability and adaptation idk

but gojo wasn't THAT much weaker especially that BF restores his output

Likely just a slow increase while his manipulation becomes better in general? What's the issue with Maho just being durable?

 

[Sus]

Likely just a slow increase while his manipulation becomes better in general? What's the issue with Maho just being durable?

there is no issue, i just find it slightly contradicting

mahoraga is obviously durable as those punches can put top tiers like uraume, hakari and yuta to sleep

 

[Arkenis]

Also guys is no one cooking up a new scale? If not I'll plan the downgrade for H7C scale since its all been rejected.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Honestly I think Mahoraga just can't be knocked unconscious which is why he took those blows better than Sukuna did.

 

[Sus]

arkenis, defeat my enemies (tier 7 jjk) and my life is yours

 

[Arkenis]

arkenis, defeat my enemies (tier 7 jjk) and my life is yours

 

[Arkenis]

JJK H7C Status

After this thread, Uraume's ice berg was dropped to being 8A. After this thread, Mechmaru's calc was also rejected with further analysis. Edit: Since those are both out, I'm either blanking on new scales or there is simply nothing useable for H7C, certainly not the values on pages now. So the...

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[DarkLock92]

Is Gojo's Red twice as strong as Max Output Blue or regular Blue?

 

[Arkenis]

Think just reg. Max blue lowkey has nothing going for it though so can be arguable its above

 

[Sus]

Is Gojo's Red twice as strong as Max Output Blue or regular Blue?

max blue is only used against agito which kinda upscales agito instead of blue

 

[Sus]

agito > ox ~ insect armour yorozu > quite literally most of the verse

with electricity and busted regen, agito lowkey slamming some top tiers

 

[BiggestOpp]

with electricity and busted regen, agito lowkey slamming some top tiers

Dabura, Yuji, Sukuna, Gojo and Cursed Naoya.
Which of these are he slamming?

 

[Sus]

Dabura, Yuji, Sukuna, Gojo and Curseya.
Which of these are he slamming?

TOP not GOD tiers
also who tf invited bumya

 

[BiggestOpp]

TOP not GOD tiers
also who tf invited bumya

My fault.
Yuta, Yuji, Naobito, Naoya, Kenjaku, Uraume, Higiruma and M*ki.
Who Agito beating.

 

[Sus]

Naobito, Naoya,

lowkey getting touched

M*ki

i would like to know how is she gonna get past his regen

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

lowkey getting touched

i would like to know how is she gonna get past his regen

ssk literally bypasses rct cuz no soul perception

 

[Sus]

ssk literally bypasses rct cuz no soul perception

grrrr forgot abt that ngl

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

grrrr forgot abt that ngl

fair cuz only a handful of peeps have it but they're other abilities are so prominent you forget they have that

 

[Sus]

fair cuz only a handful of peeps have it but they're other abilities are so prominent you forget they have that

can maki and toji see the soul? i remember smth about only those who see the soul can fully utilize the SSK

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

can maki and toji see the soul? i remember smth about only those who see the soul can fully utilize the SSK

yeep. they can see the soul.

can they harm it outside of ssk? never shown butjust the body of a hr can overwrite the soul so maybe (likely not since sukuna never notes that maki's punches hurt his soul)

 

[Sus]

yeep. they can see the soul.

can they harm it outside of ssk? never shown butjust the body of a hr can overwrite the soul so maybe (likely not since sukuna never notes that maki's punches hurt his soul)

kenjaku and gojo also have shown to see souls

takaba is outright stated to deal soul damage

open domain remains the rarest ability tho

 

[DarkLock92]

Pretty weird that Sukuna can see the soul yet none of his attacks are noted to be hard to heal from

 

[Sus]

Pretty weird that Sukuna can see the soul yet none of his attacks are noted to be hard to heal from

if u can just shred ur opponent, why would u care about making them not heal

its kinda just his fighting style,
he has to use it against mahito, so he does
against others? dismantlemog

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

yuji (pre-shinjuku) and sukuna only really got npi with sukuna onlu shown the abilty of doing hard to heal from soul damage within his innate domain with WoG states that if yuji ever ate the death painting when sukuna still possesee him, he'd kill the soul of the death painting (which again eould be in his innate domain)
only Shinjuku yuji got real soul damage

 

[DarkLock92]

if u can just shred ur opponent, why would u care about making them not heal

its kinda just his fighting style,
he has to use it against mahito, so he does
against others? dismantlemog

In Shinjuku plenty of opponents were healing from his blows regularly. Yuta took a cleave at one point if I recall

 

[Sus]

yuji (pre-shinjuku) and sukuna only really got npi with sukuna onlu shown the abilty of doing hard to heal from soul damage within his innate domain with WoG states that if yuji ever ate the death painting when sukuna still possesee him, he'd kill the soul of the death painting (which again eould be in his innate domain)
only Shinjuku yuji got real soul damage

sukuna 100% has it, not only he can just do random shit because he heard about it, he experienced this first hand

In Shinjuku plenty of opponents were healing from his blows regularly. Yuta took a cleave at one point if I recall

yuji was overwhelmed and had choso helping him
yuta was bisected and had rika continuously heal his body

the rest were also escorted and healed by others

in a 1v1 scenario sukuna kinda just doesn't need to deal soul damage

he has shown to be able to output RCT yet he never considered using it against jogo for example

 

[BiggestOpp]

lowkey getting touched

Agito gets hard blitz no? They just beat it into submission

 

[Sus]

Agito gets hard blitz no? They just beat it into submission

ehhhh speed wise agito kinda doesn't have any feats so idk

 

[Qurbonboev]

Doesn't Agito downscale from Gojokuna in speed? She is blitzing 99% of the verse

 

[Sus]

Doesn't Agito downscale from Gojokuna in speed? She is blitzing 99% of the verse

its kinda vague, like she is below them significantly, but close enough its not an utter blitz

we ARE scaling based on gut feeling with this one

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

Doesn't Agito downscale from Gojokuna in speed? She is blitzing 99% of the verse

agito gets a hole from a black flash, maho tanks one.
besides from that, gojo states agito doesn't below with him, sukuna, and big raga

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

lowkey getting touched

i would like to know how is she gonna get past his regen

Maki is a Fraud.

 

[Sus]

Maki is a Fraud.

aside from the yuji threads i have not seen u talk abt anything that isn't "maki a fraud"