Izuku fights Godzilla

[OriginFox]

Izuku VS Godzilla

-Equal speed
-100% Izuku
-Evolved Godzilla capped to 6-A

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

This is very uhh... strange but cook. Debunk using FaJin only gets him 6-B+ levels of output. Godzilla is at least High 6-B.

 

[BloodyBloodwork365]

Following.

 

[OriginFox]

This is very uhh... strange but cook. Debunk using FaJin only gets him 6-B+ levels of output. Godzilla is at least High 6-B.

Profile states 100% is 6-A unless I'm tweakin

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Profile states 100% is 6-A unless I'm tweakin

Wait what key is being used.

 

[OriginFox]

Wait what key is being used.

Full cowl 100% wasn't sure if I should restrict Fajin and Gearshift

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Full cowl 100% wasn't sure if I should restrict Fajin and Gearshift

I understand, hmmmm. The strength and speed gap would be crazy

 

[Arceus0x]

fajin and gearshift one-tap, and at 100% full cowl he is also too far above Godzilla as Godzilla is 6-A only with one attack that is 20x above his base AP.

 

[OriginFox]

fajin and gearshift one-tap, and at 100% full cowl he is also too far above Godzilla as Godzilla is 6-A only with one attack that is 20x above his base AP.

Damn. Proably gonna change it to restrict 100%, Farina and gearshift to make it more even.

 

[Arceus0x]

Damn. Proably gonna change it to restrict 100%, Farina and gearshift to make it more even.

Still a mismatch as big G would now be like 7.77x above Izuku, that being just physically, even higher and up to 6-A with the beam. Basically it's not really a good matchup as you'd need to restrict far too much and it'd still cause a major difference in AP. Even if Izuku manages to weave around Godzilla and chip away at him, one nuclear pulse could just one-shot him and that's it. I think it's best to find another matchup.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

The last time we did this exact matchup when Godzilla was actually stronger than Deku full stop at the time Deku beat the absolute hell out of him because of the speed and LS difference. The only way Goji can even hit Deku is if he spams Atomic Pulses since none of his other attacks are ever gonna hit someone that much faster than him.

 

[Arceus0x]

The last time we did this exact matchup when Godzilla was actually stronger than Deku full stop at the time Deku beat the absolute hell out of him because of the speed and LS difference. The only way Goji can even hit Deku is if he spams Atomic Pulses since none of his other attacks are ever gonna hit someone that much faster than him.

the problem here is the abilities like fajin and gearshift are restricted so all Izuku can do is fly around and chip away and die to a single pulse if it happens

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

the problem here is the abilities like fajin and gearshift are restricted so all Izuku can do is fly around and chip away and die to a single pulse if it happens

Deku does still have the soul punches thing going if he draws even the slightest bit of blood from Goji.

 

[Arceus0x]

Deku does still have the soul punches thing going if he draws even the slightest bit of blood from Goji.

Is it a one-shot thing or does he need many punches? because if so I'd say a single good pulse from Godzilla would very much nuke him. Speed is equalized and Izuku would be expecting a normal atomic breath rather than a pulse as the both charge up the same way. He would be hit with insane amounts of radiation, heat well above 30000K (beyond Deku's resistance, even if not to a great degree) and the attack overall is in the 8x one-shot gap.
If Izuku at any point gets tagged by Godzilla's breath or even just a slap or stike he would also suffer immense damage as the 7.7 combat power gap is in the one-shot range as well.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Snip

It took a decent number of them to work on Shigaraki fully but that's because he had a literal shield of hatred protecting his soul and was also attempting to adapt to them on some Mahoraga energy. I think he'll just need one or two to work on Goji since he has no soul hax resistance at all.

 

[Arceus0x]

It took a decent number of them to work on Shigaraki fully but that's because he had a literal shield of hatred protecting his soul and was also attempting to adapt to them on some Mahoraga energy. I think he'll just need one or two to work on Goji since he has no soul hax resistance at all.

First I'd say we shouldn't assume it'll instantly work like that unless you've more evidence for it working that way on those without defense. Also I mean it may work, that is if he can first get through the durability. Ik Izuku upscales from the 18 teraton stuff but Godzilla is significantly above his own value too, Izuku would have to strike him many times before he manages to get through the defenses and by then I think Godzilla would be capable of pulling a pulse by then. Izuku doesn't have the insane speed boosts in this key with the abilities restricted so I vote for Godzilla IF the OP changes the rules that way.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Wait, which key is this?

 

[Arceus0x]

Wait, which key is this?

currently without the changes I suggested it is 100% Izuku vs Evolved Godzilla. This is a stomp since E.G. is 20x below his own 6-A rating and Izuku is 6-A. The thing I am arguing about is Full Cowl final key Izuku vs Evolved Godzilla with restricted spiral breath.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

currently without the changes I suggested it is 100% Izuku vs Evolved Godzilla. This is a stomp since E.G. is 20x below his own 6-A rating and Izuku is 6-A. The thing I am arguing about is Full Cowl final key Izuku vs Evolved Godzilla with restricted spiral breath.

He can still use Fa Jin in that version since it doesn't bump him into the next tier.

 

[Arceus0x]

He can still use Fa Jin in that version since it doesn't bump him into the next tier.

so a 5x boost or no?

either way I retain my vote if the changes are made. Godzilla's nuclear pulse is fast and basically requires pretty much no preparation, it should be able to hit Izuku who wouldn't be able to range spam and would require to fight at close quarters. Godzilla usually doesn't engage the military and fights monsters his size so he doesn't use it often, but the one time he did use it was when fighter jets were bothering him and attacking him, so he would certainly use it the moment he realizes he can't hit his opponent normally, he has more than enough intelligence for that.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

so a 5x boost or no?

either way I retain my vote if the changes are made. Godzilla's nuclear pulse is fast and basically requires pretty much no preparation, it should be able to hit Izuku who wouldn't be able to range spam and would require to fight at close quarters. Godzilla usually doesn't engage the military and fights monsters his size so he doesn't use it often, but the one time he did use it was when fighter jets were bothering him and attacking him, so he would certainly use it the moment he realizes he can't hit his opponent normally, he has more than enough intelligence for that.

The only problem with this is that Fa Jin gives him a blitz amp and Danger Sense will trigger harder than anything barring Shigaraki nearly killing him in their fight once Goji starts glowing, meaning Deku will know to get the hell out of dodge.

 

[Arceus0x]

The only problem with this is that Fa Jin gives him a blitz amp

Come tf on is every damn shonen protagonist just a blitz merchant?
Regardless, is it a permanent thing or does he accelerate while using it?

and Danger Sense will trigger harder than anything barring Shigaraki nearly killing him in their fight once Goji starts glowing, meaning Deku will know to get the hell out of dodge.

The issue is that technically Godzilla's concentrated atomic breath is a bigger weapon than the pulse. Deku would sense danger similar or lower from that and would probably think that Godzilla is just charging another breath attack. On the profile it only seems to tell him about blood lust and threat level. Godzilla's pulse is unleashed faster than his breath.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Come tf on is every damn shonen protagonist just a blitz merchant?
Regardless, is it a permanent thing or does he accelerate while using it?

It's a one time use that he has to recharge but he's been shown in the Lady Nagant fight splitting the stored up energy in both of his legs so he can use it twice in a row with a tiny bit of set up.

The issue is that technically Godzilla's concentrated atomic breath is a bigger weapon than the pulse. Deku would sense danger similar or lower from that and would probably think that Godzilla is just charging another breath attack. On the profile it only seems to tell him about blood lust and threat level. Godzilla's pulse is unleashed faster than his breath.

When Shigaraki had Danger Sense it warned him in a variety of ways on which of Deku's moves are the most dangerous for the situation ahead of time so it should especially do the same for Deku since the Vestige for Danger Sense is actively working with him as opposed to being forced to work for Shigaraki.

 

[Arceus0x]

It's a one time use that he has to recharge but he's been shown in the Lady Nagant fight splitting the stored up energy in both of his legs so he can use it twice in a row with a tiny bit of set up.

Wouldn't that lower his chances of harming big G since he'd have to waste the energy on speed rather than strength?

When Shigaraki had Danger Sense it warned him in a variety of ways on which of Deku's moves are the most dangerous for the situation ahead of time so it should especially do the same for Deku since the Vestige for Danger Sense is actively working with him as opposed to being forced to work for Shigaraki.

First, bruh, why is it not on the profile. Two, the problem is that the move in question is a big AOE f-you that activates even faster than the breath and with speed equalized, wouldn't be escapable when in proximity to big G unless Izuku uses Fa Jin to escape it. Izuku can't range spam anything as his attacks wouldn't be doing much with that kind of AP and he'd basically have to risk it constantly until he either gets a few penetrating hits in and soul haxes or gets hit with the attack and die.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Wouldn't that lower his chances of harming big G since he'd have to waste the energy on speed rather than strength?

First, bruh, why is it not on the profile. Two, the problem is that the move in question is a big AOE f-you that activates even faster than the breath and with speed equalized, wouldn't be escapable when in proximity to big G unless Izuku uses Fa Jin to escape it. Izuku can't range spam anything as his attacks wouldn't be doing much with that kind of AP and he'd basically have to risk it constantly until he either gets a few penetrating hits in and soul haxes or gets hit with the attack and die.

Izuku's gargantuan LS advantage does mean that realistically if he genuinely wanted to he could straight up chuck Goji into space or just try to choke him out with Blackwhip. Bare minimum he can toss him out of the battlefield and BFR him that way.

 

[Arceus0x]

Izuku's gargantuan LS advantage does mean that realistically if he genuinely wanted to he could straight up chuck Goji into space or just try to choke him out with Blackwhip. Bare minimum he can toss him out of the battlefield and BFR him that way.

ehhh, I don't think he does that in-character, not the chucking anyways. He'd need to restrict and throw Godzilla before he gets fried by the pulse too

 

[BloodyBloodwork365]

Izuku's gargantuan LS advantage does mean that realistically if he genuinely wanted to he could straight up chuck Goji into space or just try to choke him out with Blackwhip. Bare minimum he can toss him out of the battlefield and BFR him that way.

Wait.
Does LS mean Large Size or Light Speed?

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

ehhh, I don't think he does that in-character, not the chucking anyways. He'd need to restrict and throw Godzilla before he gets fried by the pulse too

To be fair, he does outrange the Atomic Pulse by a gargantuan degree with Goji's only ability that matches Izuku's range being the Atomic Breath, so Izuku can realistically just snipe at him with air blasts and Blackwhip if that's what he decides is the best strategy.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Wait.
Does LS mean Large Size or Light Speed?

Lifting Strength.

 

[Arceus0x]

To be fair, he does outrange the Atomic Pulse by a gargantuan degree with Goji's only ability that matches Izuku's range being the Atomic Breath, so Izuku can realistically just snipe at him with air blasts and Blackwhip if that's what he decides is the best strategy.

I already did mention that range spamming isn't gonna do much considering Godzilla heavily outclasses him in AP and even more so in Dura. To add to this his regen is more than enough to repair any damage of that caliber. On the other hand, if Deku ever gets hit by one of the atomic breath attacks (which technically could happen due to speed equal) which could reach him due to having an even bigger range, he'd end up radiation haxed and damaged heavily due to, again, AP advantage.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I already did mention that range spamming isn't gonna do much considering Godzilla heavily outclasses him in AP and even more so in Dura. To add to this his regen is more than enough to repair any damage of that caliber. On the other hand, if Deku ever gets hit by one of the atomic breath attacks (which technically could happen due to speed equal) which could reach him due to having an even bigger range, he'd end up radiation haxed and damaged heavily due to, again, AP advantage.

Again, Fa Jin takes care of that issue, especially if he channels it through Blackwhip to create the Blackchain and just starts beating Goji's ass that way. This is all helped by the fact that Deku has really good AnaPre and Godzilla isn't exactly the most skilled fighter in the world so Deku can read him like a book once he sees each of Goji's tells alongside Danger Sense.

 

[BloodyBloodwork365]

Isn't the pulse omnidirectional?

 

[Arceus0x]

Again, Fa Jin takes care of that issue, especially if he channels it through Blackwhip to create the Blackchain and just starts beating Goji's ass that way. This is all helped by the fact that Deku has really good AnaPre and Godzilla isn't exactly the most skilled fighter in the world so Deku can read him like a book once he sees each of Goji's tells alongside Danger Sense.

So Fa Jin can be spammed? Cause otherwise Godzilla could just counter the attacks with his own breath or, you know, dodge them cause speed is equal.
Again, imo Deku will get close to Godzilla at first, strike him here and there and force him to use his pulse at which point one tap is enough to send Deku to the afterlife. Deku, from what I've seen, generally relies on close combat, even in dangerous situations.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

So Fa Jin can be spammed? Cause otherwise Godzilla could just counter the attacks with his own breath or, you know, dodge them cause speed is equal.

Godzilla is never dodging this dude because he's way too predictable and also he's huge. You know what they say about large targets. Also Fa Jin charges up extremely quickly in this version of Deku as shown in the fight with Shigaraki since just by throwing five punches he stored enough energy quintuple his strength for one blow.

Again, imo Deku will get close to Godzilla at first, strike him here and there and force him to use his pulse at which point one tap is enough to send Deku to the afterlife. Deku, from what I've seen, generally relies on close combat, even in dangerous situations.

He's gonna try melee at first, see it doesn't do a whole lot, Goji isn't gonna instantly lead with Atomic Pulse against something trying to fight him in melee because he's literally never done that so Deku has more than enough time to either restrain Goji with Blackwhip thanks to his gargantuan LS advantage and toss him away from civilization or get out of melee range from him and then use air blasts, Fa Jin and Blackwhip to bombard him from a distance.

 

[Arceus0x]

Godzilla is never dodging this dude because he's way too predictable and also he's huge. You know what they say about large targets.

Godzilla may be predictable but with speed equalization he can react and block attacks. What they say about large targets often doesn't account for them moving as fast as the small target.

Also Fa Jin charges up extremely quickly in this version of Deku as shown in the fight with Shigaraki since just by throwing five punches he stored enough energy quintuple his strength for one blow.

Then he'd need to throw punches towards Godzilla to charge it, not spam air blasts

He's gonna try melee at first, see it doesn't do a whole lot, Goji isn't gonna instantly lead with Atomic Pulse against something trying to fight him in melee because he's literally never done that

Except that he did as I showed you, he immediately lead with it against jets that he couldn't tag. His entire combat roster is targets as big or bigger than him, otherwise he didn't hesitate and this version is especially prone to using it.

so Deku has more than enough time to either restrain Goji with Blackwhip thanks to his gargantuan LS advantage and toss him away from civilization

one, not in character to do so, two, using blackwhip puts him in pulse range, not to mention the pulse can fry the whip right off

or get out of melee range from him and then use air blasts, Fa Jin and Blackwhip to bombard him from a distance.

Blackwhip is within pulse range, air blasts don't build up fa jin, either melee or useless range spam that won't lead anywhere

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Godzilla may be predictable but with speed equalization he can react and block attacks. What they say about large targets often doesn't account for them moving as fast as the small target.

Godzilla barely dodges anything as is in-character, he tries to face tank everything and bulldoze the opponent, especially if they're weaker than he is.

Then he'd need to throw punches towards Godzilla to charge it, not spam air blasts

Deku can literally launch air blasts by punching, what do you think his big feat he's scaling to literally is? He punched an already falling apart Shigaraki so hard that the resulting air blast that trailed upwards after the fact caused the weather across the planet to shift for an entire week and that was while Deku was basically on Death's door from fighting so much.

Except that he did as I showed you, he immediately lead with it against jets that he couldn't tag. His entire combat roster is targets as big or bigger than him, otherwise he didn't hesitate and this version is especially prone to using it.

Yeah and by the time he whips that out against a dude who would start with melee as the first attack, Deku would have already gotten the memo on the stat difference and chose other strategies that Goji literally can't do shit about.

one, not in character to do so, two, using blackwhip puts him in pulse range, not to mention the pulse can fry the whip right off

Goji does not have kilometers of range with Atomic Pulses on his profile while Blackwhip does have kilometers of range. Yes, it can fry Blackwhip but Deku can just make more and Goji will have to keep using his energy to get it off of him.

Blackwhip is within pulse range, air blasts don't build up fa jin, either melee or useless range spam that won't lead anywhere

Deku's punches cause air blasts as is, he can build up Fa Jin with literally every movement he makes including Blackwhip as he was doing that against Shigaraki too and he can put Fa Jin into all of his attacks, including the air blasts and Blackwhip.

 

[Arceus0x]

Nvm he does have kilometers for Blackwhip in his later key. Still ain't in character though. I gotta go to sleep but I will again say that I still think it'll end before Deku figures out the strategy with a single good hit.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Nvm he does have kilometers for Blackwhip in his later key. Still ain't in character though. I gotta go to sleep but I will again say that I still think it'll end before Deku figures out the strategy with a single good hit.

Deku can unironically block physical attacks from Goji perfectly fine since his equipment actually does scale in durability to his 100% stats since they repeatedly tank blow after blow from full power Shigaraki without breaking. Goji's legit only wincon is his Atomic Pulse and Deku outranges that really damn hard while Deku as a fighter is never getting tagged by Monsterverse Godzilla in a fight. That's just not happening.

 

[Arceus0x]

Deku can unironically block physical attacks from Goji perfectly fine since his equipment actually does scale in durability to his 100% stats since they repeatedly tank blow after blow from full power Shigaraki without breaking. Goji's legit only wincon is his Atomic Pulse and Deku outranges that really damn hard while Deku as a fighter is never getting tagged by Monsterverse Godzilla in a fight. That's just not happening.

You're bagging too much on nimbleness and ignoring that just because Godzilla is chunky in the movies doesn't mean he doesn't tag Deku with equalized speed. Saying it's not happening isn't gonna prevent it.

If the equipment does scale to 100% then it's a mismatch since Godzilla won't be able to even really scratch 6-A stuff

 

[Kingofwolves999]

You're bagging too much on nimbleness and ignoring that just because Godzilla is chunky in the movies doesn't mean he doesn't tag Deku with equalized speed. Saying it's not happening isn't gonna prevent it.

If the equipment does scale to 100% then it's a mismatch since Godzilla won't be able to even really scratch 6-A stuff

Godzilla doesn’t tag Deku not because of speed equal or being chunky.

He doesn’t tag Deku because Deku is absurdly more skilled, more intelligent, more mobile and has Danger Sense that makes avoiding Godzilla’s attacks childplay. He’s a massive Lizard that Deku can easily grab and toss around with Blackwhip when he’s not currently beating his face in with Fa Jin attacks.

The only ability Godzilla has that would even remotely threaten Deku is his omnidirectional pulse, which Deku would sense before he even uses it and immediately back away before it kills him.

The likelihood of Deku using ranged attacks or fighting unconventionally against Godzilla is also extremely high because Godzilla is unlike anyone else he’s fought, so naturally he would fight in whatever manner would guarantee victory. If he has to Blackwhip spam then he will, nothing is preventing Deku from doing it and he isn’t pressured by outside sources or civilians to care about anything other than fighting. Godzilla never lands a hit on Deku while he can land as many as he wants.

Deku beats Godzilla down with near ease. The possibility of him getting caught with any of Goji’s one shot abilities is absurdly low.