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The Boys discussion thread

LandonTheGuy said:
frenchie had a better end in the comics.
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I mean, I really disagree. The Frenchman just looks over, sees a bomb, smiles, and goes "je t'aime, from the first," The Female has no idea what's going on, and then they both die from a bomb that kills them and presumably hundreds of civilians and nearly knocks out Hughie. Meanwhile Frenchie, a man with no superpowers, stands up to the #1 villain, goes "gargle my hairy *******. I bet you never danced a day in your life." and makes him bleed.
LandonTheGuy said:
i honestly think that in the context of the show it's better, but at the same time in the context of the comics was better there.

Because in the comics it does make sense that the 7 first mission was a total fail and causes hundreds of victims, because Annis wants to show us that the whole team was highly uncompetent and won't think twice and say "**** this".

The plane scene in the tv serie i feel was more a spiritual successor than the recreation of the scene in the comics, i think that that one episode from diabolical does a better job in setting up the same vibe of 9/11 of the comics as it shows better how uncompetent homie really is.
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Yeah but it'd be funny.
LandonTheGuy said:
G-men arc was really good too, it's where you start to understand how ****** up Vought was

I really like how they keep Hughie a good person till the end, with both him feeling emphatic for the people who were part of G-Wiz (due of them being kidnupped and implied to have been molested by Gadolkin) and the special needs team, he still remains a person who sees good in what Butcher didn't, it really adds a lot of prospective.


Because in one hand butcher is right, most supers are horrible people and need to die, but Hughie was also right because not all supers were evil and didn't deserve that treatment.


I will neve forgive Amazon Prime for making Hughie wayy more incline to kill, instead of not letting his enviorment not change him.
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I guess, but "Hughie loses control and kills a guy because Butcher wanted him to" happens like at least 3 times in the comics, it's a little redundant.
 
SlendVeny said:
Series would instantly be redeemed if they released a version where they just cut out all the sections of scenes where someone's doing bad shit and made the whole thing incomprehensible.
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Alt version where Homelander is a normal dude and The Boys are a paramilitary organization of like 5 different "Punisher Kills The Marvel Universe" Punishers
 
Gave the comics a proper read recently and it's like a 7/10 series with very strong moments and great finale bogged down at parts by the more indulgent and juvenile aspects of Ennis writing but this is far from the affront to god some people describe it as. Most importantly is that it has a ******* premise and coherent structure it follows to the end instead of the flip-flopping the TV show engaged in for 3-4 seasons, absolute terrible garbage of an adaptation.
 
I'd be actually interested in watching an animated adaptation of the comics like the Diabolical episode, which amusingly enough was the only episode worth watching in that mini series.
 
love how homelander shows up to the place and uses his x-ray, but the one place he CANT see through he just stares at for 20 seconds instead of simply going to check it. the dude has super speed it would literally take him a fkin second.

then after he catches the guy who has been a thorn in his side for the whole show, he just leaves and lets him die on his own instead of lasering his head off or ripping him in half — like i get they wanted to have that “i love you dont leave me” moment with kimiko but the dude has done far worse to people who have pissed him off far less, yet he’s somehow supposed to be more insane than he’s ever been.

also where we at with sheline bullet dodging from like 5 feet away? too many anti feats i guess
 
The comics are hideous lol. The dialogue in them sounds like it was written by a 12 year old. And it's just... completely grim and depressing of a setting. There are no likable characters at all.

Idk how anyone can defend that stuff. Season 1 of the show clears the whole run of the comics tbh.
 
Valiant_Abyss said:
Anyways here's a list of major remaining members and casualties/losses on each side for fun since the start of this season (I know some may not be aligned entirely in terms of their internal thoughts but I just put who is currently aligned with who at least to the public):
  • Homelander
  • Soldier Boy
  • The Deep
  • Ashley and Bashly
  • Oh Father
  • Sister Sage (switched sides)
  • New Noir (killed by the Deep)
  • Firecracker (killed by Homelander)
[*]8 main members to start, 5 remaining, 2 dead.

  • Butcher
  • Hughie
  • Starlight
  • Ryan*** (got ass whooped by Homelander and does NOT wanna run it back)
  • MM
  • Frenchie
  • Kimiko
  • Sister Sage
  • A-Train (Killed by Homelander)
  • Stan Edgar (In Vought custody)
  • Newman's husband (quit)
  • Gen V crew*** (Irrelevant and/or absent)
  • 11 members to start, 9 remaining, 1 dead, 2 MIA
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Update after the penultimate episode.
  • Homelander
  • Soldier Boy (He thought getting iced was for one day only! He MAD!)
  • The Deep (fired and homeless)
  • Ashley and Bashly (decided to stop talking forever)
  • Oh Father
  • Sister Sage (switched sides)
  • New Noir (killed by the Deep)
  • Firecracker (killed by Homelander)
[*]8 main members to start, 3 remaining, 2 dead.

  • Butcher
  • Hughie
  • Starlight
  • Ryan*** (got ass whooped by Homelander and does NOT wanna run it back)
  • MM
  • Frenchie (dead as hell)
  • Kimiko
  • Sister Sage
  • A-Train (Killed by Homelander)
  • Stan Edgar (In Vought custody)
  • Newman's husband (quit)
  • Gen V crew (Irrelevant)
11 members to start, 7 remaining, 2 dead

Never seen a season more hyped up just to amass into absolutely nothing lol.
 
DarkLock92 said:
Bruh ain't no way people think Homelander got giga buffed because of a random tweet😭
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To be fair the Vought YT channel and Twitter posts in-universe stuff, so it's legitimately crazy for Heat Vision pictures to circulate across the world around the same time Homelander shot upward into the sky... and Vought is trying to say the photos are fake because they're covering it up.

And that location in the picture is Gytheio, Greece. The closest point in America is somewhere in Cape Spear, Canada, which is 3,770 miles in a straight line. Plus, accounting for the Earth's curvature for the thing to be visible from that far, and that beam would need to be ridiculous levels of long.

Either way, I want a real feat in the finale:devilish:
 
Phoenks said:
The comics are hideous lol. The dialogue in them sounds like it was written by a 12 year old. And it's just... completely grim and depressing of a setting. There are no likable characters at all.

Idk how anyone can defend that stuff. Season 1 of the show clears the whole run of the comics tbh.
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Yeah. I have issues with the show as a whole, but the comics were filled with even more pointless gore and grape. A lot of the criticisms about the show like how they treat Hughie getting assaulted happen in the comic too but 1000x worse. Clone Black Noir eats babies for ***** sake. Ironically, the comic version of Homelander is more moral than his show counterpart.

Also comic Vought were even more incompetent. They made an even stronger clone of Homelander as a defense but never made sure he was psychologically healthy. Also, idk what the point of having Noir as the counter measure when he’s even more insane. What would they have done if Clone Noir joined Homelander instead.

Plus, the comics are just as political FYI.
 
I read the comics a few times over for some verse revisions in the past. I feel that the writing of the show is far superior on an episode-by-episode basis, but the lore, presentation and worldbuilding of the comic are a lot more interesting, especially when it comes to stuff like the fact that Vought use Supes to cause natural disasters and Homelander being a clone of Stormfront. Also, even though I'd say the characters are worse, their traits are often better executed than their show counterparts, especially when it comes to Hughie and M.M.
DarkLock92 said:
Bruh ain't no way people think Homelander got giga buffed because of a random tweet😭
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I'm not fully conversant with the rules anymore since I haven't been an admin for over a year, but isn't this (maybe not the calculations themselves, bear in mind) actually useable since it's in-universe media rather than WoG?
ShionAH said:
I dont know if the country stuff work tho
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I could be wrong, since my knowledge of optics is limited to a few textbooks (I'm hoping I can pick optics subjects in a semester or two), but I really don't think we can conflate the focal point of a beam (Stillwell explicitly said the cuts on the plane were the width of a human eye, for example) from comparatively short ranges to the entire volume affected by this blast.

Also, for that luminosity calculation, I'd go for -10 rather than -12.60 from what I've seen of unenhanced Ikeya-Seki photos at near-sunset conditions.
 
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Finally saw the episode. I won't repeat the points everyone has already made. But something that really pisses me off is the scale. I don't mean fights, I mean the world building.

Remember S2 ? How one video of Homelander's **** up led to mass protests which he even shows up at Neuman's and we got that iconic sequence of Homelander's dream of lasering everyone ? Season 4 and 5 really have no sense of scale. Despite being the biggest season we see little to no public or the world's reaction.

Now it all takes place inside a building. It feels completely isolated and so limited in it's scope. There is no reaction. There no consequences.

This looks extra bad since Daredevil just finished and they did this amazingly. Every episode, for a few minutes in the start we get to see the state of New York, Fisk's actions have clear consquesnces for him and the world.
 
57Dev said:
Finally saw the episode. I won't repeat the points everyone has already made. But something that really pisses me off is the scale. I don't mean fights, I mean the world building.

Remember S2 ? How one video of Homelander's **** up led to mass protests which he even shows up at Neuman's and we got that iconic sequence of Homelander's dream of lasering everyone ? Season 4 and 5 really have no sense of scale. Despite being the biggest season we see little to no public or the world's reaction.

Now it all takes place inside a building. It feels completely isolated and so limited in it's scope. There is no reaction. There no consequences.

This looks extra bad since Daredevil just finished and they did this amazingly. Every episode, for a few minutes in the start we get to see the state of New York, Fisk's actions have clear consquesnces for him and the world.
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The USA President died btw 💔
 
I hate how Soldier boy was knocked out. They had a obvious chance for a short rematch here where they could show Homelander's dominance.

But no. 180 seconds of screen time goes to Dogknot smelling Sheline's pink star.

Well one episode to go. Let's get done with this shit.
 
Raito_Utopia said:
So, did V1 make Homelander stronger ? He knocked out Soldier Boy way too easily - or was that just lazy writing (again) ?
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I think some of his powers have grown, at least, because he seemed far less affected by Fort Harmony's enriched uranium than in episode 4.

Funnily enough, you'd actually have to eat a fair amount of u-235 to actually kill you through radiation poisoning, let alone being exposed to it from a distance like Homelander was.
 
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I think its more of an assumption to say Homelander was sitting there shooting at the sky like a lunatic for an hour straight or whatever rather than assume these timeframes as we saw just in 2 seconds it already reached very high into the sky but that’s just me maybe
 
ShionAH said:
This IS a buff.

So V1 Homelander has like Kilometers range and has arguments for FTL heat vision, I dont know if the country stuff work tho
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Range is fine. Unless Homelander goes crazy in the finale Country level stuff is probably an outlier, but we'll see
 
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