High 6-A to 5-C Redux Tournament (2026): Heatblast (Ben10) flame alien vs Gray Fullbuster ice magician (QUARTER FINAL) (GRACE MATCH FINISHED)

[Epiccheev]

scan of undressing (asking for scientific purposes only)

 

[Aytugsss]

he has the knowledge, he just is a dumbass as a kid, he had to be told about it to use it

OMFG, I'm literally just being ignored, Heatblasts resistance can't save him here, Gray's scaling with absolute Zero is better than what he can resist

Edit: I have work, I'll be mostly unavailable for the next 8hrs or so

You cant just take an wincon ability from the character
Ben is gonna use supernova when he loses
He wouldnt forget it after its happens more than twice
Also gray scaling abolute zero is not better than what heatblast resist
Heatblast didnt even bothered by ultimate bigchills freeze which is colder than normal big chills freeze which is absolute zero

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

Bro has actual anti feats for him using it, and it isn't even his starting move, he ain't using it before he gets frozen

If it's in profile then it can be use. It is

• Supernova Hot:A state in which Heatblast reaches supernova level temperatures, producing extreme amount of heat in the process, which is known to vaporize large quantities of water which has been achieved by various methods.
  • Fire Tornado: Heatblast using his pyrokinetic flight can spin rapidly and generate a fire tornado that was able to reach supernova hot and dissipate S.A.M.
  • Temper Tantrum Meltdown: When reduced to the age of a toddler Heatblast became so volatile that he entered Supernova Hot during a temper tantrum.
  • Oxygen Burning: By burning large quantity of Oxygen, Heatblast become hotter than he has ever been, completely turning to fire albeit at the cost of not being able to voluntarily dial down his temperature afterwards

You just see him using it to first time, and it's literally in fight, so literally it still can be wincons

Getting frozen to below abolsute Zero is gonna kill heatblast

It's still don't change point that Heatblast can just burn him and his ice. Also Big Chill's ice can overpowered Pyronite's fire powers, make his ice more powerful than Grey, and Heatblast can still resist it. (Heatblast's resistance>Big Chill's ice>Pyronite's fire powers)

Nothing in Gray's arsenal violates the rules, Gray can kill via freezing, he can also just incap with it as well scaling off of silver but that doesn't matter here, Ben wasn't holding back, he literally just forgot he could go supernova

He didn't forget, he use it for first time lol

Natsu 101, Gray freezes the blast before it reaches him

This blast is more difficult for him to burn, since Ben can reach it anyway (he even holds back because he knows that he would hurt people).

That Cave is small af, the aoe isn't anything impressive either, Gray just backs up and freezes the whole arena and heatblast with it

It literally large enough to burn entire Arena Dome

It part of Natsu's powernull kit, one of the many different abilities he's negated was air magic at the beginning of the manga, his flames cause an air pressure differential; he pulls all air in the area upwards and away with his heat

Power Nullification≠Self-Sustenance, Heatblast are wipes oxygen from fights which kills him

 

[DontTalkDT]

Hmm, Fairy Tail does seem to contradict this since Gray does get legit frozen by Hakune, but wasn't able to be frozen by the absolute zero temps invel produces as his temp manip stems more from straight decreasing temp as he can do funny stuff like freeze gray's ice despite it already being a solid. Which would classically require lower temps to achieve, so idk how this works in regards to the wiki.

Thing is, below absolute zero doesn't make sense. Heat is a measure of how much atoms move. Absolute zero is that they don't move. You can't have less than no movement. There are no lower temps to achieve. Everything a lower temp could achieve must have already been achieved at absolute zero, else it's not actually absolute zero.
Honestly, in my book, I would consider going lower than "absolute zero" as an anti-feat towards absolute zero.
But even should we buy the absolute zero itself, I would then argue that it's exactly like the page says: It's increased ability to produce coldness. There was some kind of energy left and more energy was removed. But since we are firmly in the "makes no sense"-territory, you can't really extrapolate better interaction at that point.

 

[Epiccheev]

Absolute Zero vs Conceptual cold

 

[GeneralSol16]

Ben FRA

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

Snip

It's still don't change point that Heatblast can just burn him and his ice. Also Big Chill's ice can overpowered Pyronite's fire powers, make his ice more powerful than Grey, and Heatblast can still resist it. (Heatblast's resistance>Big Chill's ice>Pyronite's fire powers)

Ultimate Big Chill>Big Chill (it's even obvious)

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

This is his First key and ben learned all of that in his First key why we are assuming he will not use agaisnt gray when sba allows hım to and ben knows this ability
Heatblast can use supernova heat
His only restrictions are probably 4b attacks other than that there is nothing can stop hım using supernova heat

He has AP advantage here (5.71 Exatons>80.4 Petatons)

 

[Epiccheev]

Ultimate Heavenly Divine Venerated Myriad 7 Lotus Flame Dragon Emperor Big Chill

 

[FARLANDER3305]

İ am gonna Vote Heatblast for this match

 

[Lort15]

Goatblast FRA

 

[Hellformer]

Heatblast fra

 

[Aytugsss]

Voting heatblast

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

I would also like to vote Heatblast

 

[Epiccheev]

Heatblast FRA

 

[Zackra1799]

Man, I love being fra while im unable to properly respond, real cool

I dont even care anymore just have heat blast move on

 

[Aytugsss]

Man, I love being fra while im unable to properly respond, real cool

I dont even care anymore just have heat blast move on

İts happens so often

 

[FARLANDER3305]

Man, I love being fra while im unable to properly respond, real cool

I dont even care anymore just have heat blast move on

First of this is mature Heatblast
Secondly he was Being baited to do supernova cuz his cousin tell hım and thats okay but you need to understand that ben is not gonna use supernova nuke when he was with his family member or any civillian around
Third this is sba so you should stop doing
Ben only learned this Via his cousin baited hım and gave hım an idea thing Pyronites can reach that levels easily but ben isnt using that whenever he sees a villain i explained
Supernova Hot: A state in which Heatblast reaches supernova level temperatures, producing extreme amount of heat in the process, which is known to vaporize large quantities of water which has been achieved by various methods.
Fire Tornado: Heatblast using his pyrokinetic flight can spin rapidly and generate a fire tornado that was able to reach supernova hot and dissipate S.A.M.
Temper Tantrum Meltdown: When reduced to the age of a toddler Heatblast became so volatile that he entered Supernova Hot during a temper tantrum.
Oxygen Burning: By burning large quantity of Oxygen, Heatblast become hotter than he has ever been, completely turning to fire albeit at the cost of not being able to voluntarily dial down his temperature afterwards
Heatblast s profiles you can see supernova hot and temper tantrum meltdown is different he can use fire tornado with that

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Heatblast FRA ngl

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Man, I love being fra while im unable to properly respond, real cool

I dont even care anymore just have heat blast move on

A full page and a half of argumentation was made. Let's not blame "FRA trains" here

 

[Epiccheev]

I mean, if Gray has an undebunkable wincon that counters supernova or we get confirmation that his Flash Freeze would be a one-shot/instakill i'd be willing to change votes

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Going with Heatblast FRA here

 

[DemonicDude]

Edit: I have work, I'll be mostly unavailable for the next 8hrs or so

he literally said he's busy

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Seems like Heatblast takes this. (yes this is a vote)

 

[DemonicDude]

Grace.
I still feel there was a LOT that could've been discussed but zackra seemingly gave up

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

I mean, if Gray has an undebunkable wincon that counters supernova or we get confirmation that his Flash Freeze would be a one-shot/instakill i'd be willing to change votes

It doesn't counter Supernova, it only counter 800M°C, Supernova is 1B°C

 

[Lort15]

Grace.
I still feel there was a LOT that could've been discussed but zackra seemingly gave up

Below AZ arguments doesn't work according to DT appearently

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Ngl, I feel like if Grey's profile were up to date, he would have won... But since it's not... Yeah....

 

[Soul80]

Ben FRA