High 6-A to 5-C Redux Tournament (2026): Heatblast (Ben10) flame alien vs Gray Fullbuster ice magician (QUARTER FINAL) (GRACE MATCH FINISHED)

[DemonicDude]

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• Main Tournament Thread
• Keys: As agreed against tier setter in main thread
• Speed: Equalized speed in all matches
• Distance: 50 meters apart from each other
• Win:
  • Win via killing
  • or if opponent proceed to give up/exit tournament. (No BFR allowed)
• Knowledge: Random encounters, No prior knowledge to anybody
• Time Limit: 25-minute time limit
• Equipment: Only standard Equipments allowed
• Location: Arena Dome

(Location picture below Outside and Inside)

Arena description:

• A giant dome 500 meters wide and 800 meters tall.
• Colossal enclosed arena where the central battle platform stretches a full 500 meters across, comparable to a supersized football pitch but engineered for extreme-scale combat. The surface is a circular expanse of reinforced metal of near unbreakable material and composite plating, etched with concentric rings that help gauge distance and positioning during fights. At that scale, fighters can engage in high-speed movement, long-range attacks, and large-area abilities without immediately reaching the boundaries. At the exact center lies a small circular opening, deceptively modest compared to the arena’s size. This aperture drops straight down into a vast vertical shaft filled with water that extends three hundreds of meters below the surface.

Votes:

• Heatblast (Classic): 8 (TheOrangeGuy09, Lloydblitzed, Epiccheev, Ultimate-Rex1, Aytugsss, Hellformer, Lort15, FARLANDER3305)
• Gray Fullbuster x793:
• Incon:

 

[DemonicDude]

@Ultimate-Rex1 in the thread, scaling feats at midnight
Ben 10 scans loaded up, “Alien X solos, right?”
Generator Rex in the tabs, cooking calcs all day
Then Dr. Holiday appears and bro forgets what to say
“Uh… hax resistance…” man is typing way too fast
Whole debate derailed ‘cause he saw CRT downgrade by Shion pass
Talking bout EVOs, nanites, cosmic energy and flex
But the Gray of Fairy Tail Guild got Ultimate Rex all stressed
Will he get a glorious victory and celebrate in style?
Or will Natsu, Erza and Lucy watch him burn, in a trash pile

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

What key that use for Gray Fullbuster? Also what he start with it?

 

[DemonicDude]

What key that use for Gray Fullbuster? Also what he start with it?

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

What does he start with? Ice hax?

 

[DemonicDude]

What does he start with? Ice hax?

gonna have to wait for @Zackra1799

 

[Zackra1799]

What does he start with? Ice hax?

Attacking with his ice mostly than and if that fails he goes freeze gg, and like how he deals with most fire users, he would freeze any ranged fire attacks thrown at him

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

Attacking with his ice mostly, and like how he deals with most fire users, he would freeze any ranged fire attacks thrown at him

So technically this wouldn't work on Heatblast due to he has resist to Big Chill's Absolute Zero

 

[DemonicDude]

Attacking with his ice mostly, and like how he deals with most fire users, he would freeze any ranged fire attacks thrown at him

What is the temperature of ice used by him?
While Heatblast is hot, I don't think he has ever shown to be able to escape from being frozen in a block of ice.

 

[Zackra1799]

So technically this wouldn't work on Heatblast due to he has resist to Big Chill's Absolute Zero

Gray's temp and ice manip scales below absolute zero and has a chain beyond that

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

Also, Heatblast starts with fire hax that reaches 6000°C and can become as hot as a supernova.

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

What is the temperature of ice used by him?
While Heatblast is hot, I don't think he has ever shown to be able to escape from being frozen in a block of ice.

• Absolute Zero & Ice Manipulation (Can melt his way out of both Big Chill's and Ultimate Big Chill's ice)

He has resistance to Ultimate Big Chill's Absolute Zero

 

[Zackra1799]

Also, Heatblast starts with fire hax that reaches 6000°C and can become as hot as a supernova.

Gray can flash freeze Natsu's END fire which is far hotter than 200 million c and said fire can burn esoteric shit like Time.

He has resistance to Ultimate Big Chill's Absolute Zero

You need statements of going below absolute zero, otherwise you normally cant go below it as it breaks physics, even if we do accept ultimate big chill is below absolute zero, Gray scales above hakune who froze his base which resists said below absolute Zero temps, then Gray with the Devil Slaying Mark resists and scales above her.

 

[DontTalkDT]

You need statements of going below absolute zero, otherwise you normally cant go below it as it breaks physics, even if we do accept ultimate big chill is below absolute zero, Gray scales above hakune who froze his base which resists said below absolute Zero temps, then Gray with the Devil Slaying Mark resists and scales above her.

Well...

Various franchises have produced characters that are able to produce or resist temperatures "below absolute zero". Due to deriding the point of being the absolute coldest possible temperature in existence, such abilities can only be described as an even greater ability to produce or resist cold, as such things would not make sense according to thermodynamics as we know it.

We don't really accept below absolute zero as better coldness, but just as increased coldness production. So it's just a matter of being able of removing a higher quantity of heat energy.
The 200 mio°C thing is a more impressive feat in that regard, although mass of the flames frozen is relevant to that, not just heat.

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

Gray's temp and ice manip scales below absolute zero and has a chain beyond that

Do we allow "Likely" in this tournament?

Likely Absolute Zero (Copied Invel's True-Ice Kamui, which is stated to have a cold that surpasses Absolute Zero, however the validity of this statement is questionable due to it coming from a Weekly Shonen Magazine editor's note<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Gray_Fullbuster_(X793)#cite_note-1"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a>)

Also Ultimate Big Chill's ice is scales below and above absolute zero, as his ice describes as "fire so cold it burns", as well as he can make his ice colder than his devolved form.

 

[DemonicDude]

Do we allow "Likely" in this tournament?

That has more to do with the standard of versus battle rather than tournament, if it's allowed by rules of the site then yes.

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

Gray can flash freeze Natsu's END fire which is far hotter than 200 million c and said fire can burn esoteric shit like Time.

This good point, but does he can resist Heatblast's Supernova hot?

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

If not, then the only way to repel Heatblast’s fire is with his ice. However, Heatblast’s fire attacks can also one-shot Gray.

 

[Epiccheev]

Thematic matchup fire vs ice, nice.

 

[Zackra1799]

We don't really accept below absolute zero as better coldness, but just as increased coldness production. So it's just a matter of being able of removing a higher quantity of heat energy.
The 200 mio°C thing is a more impressive feat in that regard, although mass of the flames frozen is relevant to that, not just heat.

Hmm, Fairy Tail does seem to contradict this since Gray does get legit frozen by Hakune, but wasn't able to be frozen by the absolute zero temps invel produces as his temp manip stems more from straight decreasing temp as he can do funny stuff like freeze gray's ice despite it already being a solid. Which would classically require lower temps to achieve, so idk how this works in regards to the wiki.

Do we allow "Likely" in this tournament?

Also Ultimate Big Chill's ice is scales below and above absolute zero, as his ice describes as "fire so cold it burns", as well as he can make his ice colder than his devolved form.

Fair, but as I said, Gray has scaling beyond ultimate big chill's statements anyway, his ice would be able to freeze Heatblast here

This good point, but does he can resist Heatblast's Supernova hot?

Doesn't supernova hot bump him up to Solar system level, if so he can't use it here.

Regardless the heat scaling goes as such, Natsu's casual base can melt Invels ice which not even 200,000,000 C temps can melt, Natsu, after receiving a massive rage amp and entering his END form, which multiplies his stats and temperature by at least 4x was still getting flash frozen by Gray's Devil slaying magic, Gray then scales a fair bit above this in x793, so Gray can resist and flash freeze stuff massively above 800 million C which is comparable to heat blasts super nova temps

If not, then the only way to repel Heatblast’s fire is with his ice. However, Heatblast’s fire attacks can also one-shot Gray.

Gray has basically 2 decades of experience, scrapping with a far more versatile and skilled fire user than Heatblast, Nothing Heatblast has in his bag is new and Gray can counter any ranged fire attacks by freezing them. Heatblast would have to go cqc, but if that happens, he's getting hit with Gray's Ice Demon long sword, which would freeze GG him.

This key is 10 year old ben, who's so overconfident that he doesn't even try to dodge being frozen by big chill, Gray is gonna catch him before Heatblast gets to land any of his big fire attacks on Gray

 

[DemonicDude]

yeah 10 year old Ben does not have good combat skills or intelligence

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

Doesn't supernova hot bump him up to Solar system level, if so he can't use it here.

No, Solar System level comes from they scales to Vilgax, not Supernova

Regardless the heat scaling goes as such, Natsu's casual base can melt Invels ice which not even 200,000,000 C temps can melt, Natsu, after receiving a massive rage amp and entering his END form, which multiplies his stats and temperature by at least 4x was still getting flash frozen by Gray's Devil slaying magic, Gray then scales a fair bit above this in x793, so Gray can resist and flash freeze stuff massively above 800 million C which is comparable to heat blasts super nova temps

Ia this get accept or not? It's still don't change point that Heatblast can just burn him and his ice. Also Big Chill's ice can overpowered Pyronite's fire powers, make his ice more powerful than Grey, and Heatblast can still resist it. (Heatblast's resistance>Big Chill's ice>Pyronite's fire powers)

Gray has basically 2 decades of experience, scrapping with a far more versatile and skilled fire user than Heatblast, Nothing Heatblast has in his bag is new and Gray can counter any ranged fire attacks by freezing them. Heatblast would have to go cqc, but if that happens, he's getting hit with Gray's Ice Demon long sword, which would freeze GG him.

This key is 10 year old ben, who's so overconfident that he doesn't even try to dodge being frozen by big chill, Gray is gonna catch him before Heatblast gets to land any of his big fire attacks on Gray

Heatblast’s fire attacks can be used as omnidirectional explosions of fire and large blasts. He can also move fast enough to dodge ranged attacks, and even if Gray tries to counter it, he still needs to blast Heatblast to win, while Heatblast can simply dodge and one-shot him. If it goes to CQC, it wouldn’t take long for Heatblast to one-shot Gray lol.

He literally dodged multiple attacks at very high speed, and this Big Chill is future Ben which know all of his weaknesses. Also Heatblast's fire can burn oxygen in fights, so i don't remember if Gray can survive without air

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

yeah 10 year old Ben does not have food combat skills or intelligence

He has in Ben's profile

 

[Lort15]

yeah 10 year old Ben does not have food combat skills or intelligence

He does actually but probably not much mentioned in the page

 

[Aytugsss]

How much heat can gray take?
PAge says he can take base natsu's heat but heatblast can be hotter (bothways)than natsu's base
Supernova can give a hard time to gray at this point

 

[Zackra1799]

No, Solar System level comes from they scales to Vilgax, not Supernova

Regardless Ben literally has to get rage baited by gwen or literally told to use it by Gwen, he never thinks to use it off rip

Ia this get accept or not? It's still don't change point that Heatblast can just burn him and his ice.

Natsu's rage amp, which his END form is, scales the temperature of his flames with it

Gray freezes the attacks before they ever reach him also it isnt even in character for him to use supernova heat unless someone tells him to use it.

Heatblast’s fire attacks can be used as omnidirectional explosions of fire and large blasts. He can also move fast enough to dodge ranged attacks, and even if Gray tries to counter it, he still needs to blast Heatblast to win, while Heatblast can simply dodge and one-shot him. If it goes to CQC, it wouldn’t take long for Heatblast to one-shot Gray lol.

Lol, That's Textbook Natsu 101, he would see and counter stuff like this instantly, Gray is skilled enough to dodge perception and and attacks to fast for him to see, hes not getting hit first by heatblast what so ever here.

Gray doesnt even need to blast him to win, he just needs a gesture and ice make silver flash freezes heat blast for the win, which is one of his opening moves

He literally dodged multiple attacks at very high speed, and this Big Chill is future Ben which know all of his weaknesses. Also Heatblast's fire can burn oxygen in fights, so i don't remember if Gray can survive without air

Gray dodging point blank danmaku from silver is far more impressive, along with dodging attacks that can blitz his perception and dodging perception abilities themselves, Gray ain't getting touched first.

Natsu has been removing air from the surrounding area since his fight with erigor at the start of the manga, lack of air ain't doing anything to Gray unless its for a prolonged period of time

 

[Zackra1799]

How much heat can gray take?
PAge says he can take base natsu's heat but heatblast can be hotter (bothways)than natsu's base
Supernova can give a hard time to gray at this point

Supernova isn't even in character, both scans listed on the profile literally had to have Gwen tell him, or just straight-up rage-bait him into using it

Gray will have frozen him long before he uses it

 

[Aytugsss]

Ben has gifted iq, when he realize grays powers , he gonna use it
And even gray freeze him, he can still escape by melting the ice.
He already did it 2 times and its on his profiles

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

Regardless Ben literally has to get rage baited by gwen or literally told to use it by Gwen, he never thinks to use it off rip

He can use it without being told by Gwen; only Gwen wants him to at times, and he knows he can do it. When Gwen needed to rage-bait him, she did it because this was baby Heatblast, not the adult one, and he didn’t know he could do it until this episode. That’s why he uses it when Gwen asks him if he can reach supernova level, also Ben has gifted iq so it's not problem anymore

Natsu's rage amp, which his END form is, scales the temperature of his flames with it

Gray freezes the attacks before they ever reach him also it isnt even in character for him to use supernova heat unless someone tells him to use it.

He can't freeze it due to Supernova, rules says:

• Win via killing
• or if opponent proceed to give up/exit tournament. (No BFR allowed)

It needs to Gray to exit tournament or Heatblast kills him, so Ben wouldn't holding back against him, like he did with storm monster

Lol, That's Textbook Natsu 101, he would see and counter stuff like this instantly, Gray is skilled enough to dodge perception and and attacks to fast for him to see, hes not getting hit first by heatblast what so ever here.

Huh, Heatblast can literally just use omnidirectional explosions of fire, Heatblast wouldn't holding back due to rules

• Supernova Hot:A state in which Heatblast reaches supernova level temperatures, producing extreme amount of heat in the process, which is known to vaporize large quantities of water which has been achieved by various methods.
  • Fire Tornado: Heatblast using his pyrokinetic flight can spin rapidly and generate a fire tornado that was able to reach supernova hot and dissipate S.A.M.
  • Temper Tantrum Meltdown: When reduced to the age of a toddler Heatblast became so volatile that he entered Supernova Hot during a temper tantrum.
  • Oxygen Burning: By burning large quantity of Oxygen, Heatblast become hotter than he has ever been, completely turning to fire albeit at the cost of not being able to voluntarily dial down his temperature afterwards

Gray doesnt even need to blast him to win, he just needs a gesture and ice make silver flash freezes heat blast for the win, which is one of his opening moves

Heatblast can resist since he overpowered Big Chill's ice which is more powerful than normal Pyronite

Gray dodging point blank danmaku from silver is far more impressive, along with dodging attacks that can blitz his perception and dodging perception abilities themselves, Gray ain't getting touched first.

His omnidirectional explosions of fire, it's his Supernova explosion that can burning entire cave

Natsu has been removing air from the surrounding area since his fight with erigor at the start of the manga, lack of air ain't doing anything to Gray unless its for a prolonged period of time

It's not in profile

Gray has only his LS advantage here, when Heatblast can one-shotted him with omnidirectional explosions of fire

 

[Zackra1799]

For context of what i mean, ben got folded and gwen had to rage bait him to use supernova, also the aoe is straight ass with a buildup time no less, gray isn't getting caught in that at all

Ben didn't even know that his super heat could turn the water into steam and had to be told to supernova hot ...again

Ben has gifted iq, when he realize grays powers , he gonna use it
And even gray freeze him, he can still escape by melting the ice.
He already did it 2 times and its on his profiles

He didn't use it without being told in both linked battles above, so nah he just sucks at using heat blast

Heatblast can't melt out of grays Ice as Gray's cold scales way above what heatblast has resisted before, one flash freeze and its freeze gg for heatblast

 

[FARLANDER3305]

Supernova isn't even in character, both scans listed on the profile literally had to have Gwen tell him, or just straight-up rage-bait him into using it

Gray will have frozen him long before he uses it

İ dont know about that since Heatblast reach that heat in his 4 year old form this is more mature Heatblast and he has definitly more control over his powers hell he Even knows how to absorb heat
Both has aoe attacks
Man this is gonna be peak

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

For context of what i mean, ben got folded and gwen had to rage bait him to use supernova, also the aoe is straight ass with a buildup time no less, gray isn't getting caught in that at all

This baby Ben btw

Ben didn't even know that his super heat could turn the water into steam and had to be told to supernova hot ...again

Ben didn’t know he could do it, because it was the first time in the whole series.

 

[FARLANDER3305]

This is his First key and ben learned all of that in his First key why we are assuming he will not use agaisnt gray when sba allows hım to and ben knows this ability
Heatblast can use supernova heat
His only restrictions are probably 4b attacks other than that there is nothing can stop hım using supernova heat

 

[Aytugsss]

For context of what i mean, ben got folded and gwen had to rage bait him to use supernova, also the aoe is straight ass with a buildup time no less, gray isn't getting caught in that at all

Ben didn't even know that his super heat could turn the water into steam and had to be told to supernova hot ...again

He didn't use it without being told in both linked battles above, so nah he just sucks at using heat blast

Heatblast can't melt out of grays Ice as Gray's cold scales way above what heatblast has resisted before, one flash freeze and its freeze gg for heatblast

Why do we assume that ben doesnt has knowledge about supernova? İ didnt see any timeline in the matchup,so we can assume timeline after he used supernova and if he has knowledge ,he gonna use it
And heatblast resist absolute zero from base chill and colder freeze feom ultimate bigchill
And dont forget that omnitrix can probably protect ben from many attacks

 

[Zackra1799]

He can use it without being told by Gwen; only Gwen wants him to at times, and he knows he can do it. When Gwen needed to rage-bait him, she did it because this was baby Heatblast, not the adult one, and he didn’t know he could do it until this episode. That’s why he uses it when Gwen asks him if he can reach supernova level, also Ben has gifted iq so it's not problem anymore

Bro has actual anti feats for him using it, and it isn't even his starting move, he ain't using it before he gets frozen

He can't freeze it due to Supernova, rules says:

Getting frozen to below abolsute Zero is gonna kill heatblast

It needs to Gray to exit tournament or Heatblast kills him, so Ben wouldn't holding back against him, like he did with storm monster

Nothing in Gray's arsenal violates the rules, Gray can kill via freezing, he can also just incap with it as well scaling off of silver but that doesn't matter here, Ben wasn't holding back, he literally just forgot he could go supernova

Huh, Heatblast can literally just use omnidirectional explosions of fire, Heatblast wouldn't holding back due to rules

Natsu 101, Gray freezes the blast before it reaches him

Heatblast can resist since he overpowered Big Chill's ice which is more powerful than normal Pyronite

He can't, his resistance isn't good enough

His omnidirectional explosions of fire, it's his Supernova explosion that can burning entire cave

That Cave is small af, the aoe isn't anything impressive either, Gray just backs up and freezes the whole arena and heatblast with it

It's not in profile

It part of Natsu's powernull kit, one of the many different abilities he's negated was air magic at the beginning of the manga, his flames cause an air pressure differential; he pulls all air in the area upwards and away with his heat

 

[Zackra1799]

Why do we assume that ben doesnt has knowledge about supernova? İ didnt see any timeline in the matchup,so we can assume timeline after he used supernova and if he has knowledge ,he gonna use it
And heatblast resist absolute zero from base chill and colder freeze feom ultimate bigchill
And dont forget that omnitrix can probably protect ben from many attacks

he has the knowledge, he just is a dumbass as a kid, he had to be told about it to use it

OMFG, I'm literally just being ignored, Heatblasts resistance can't save him here, Gray's scaling with absolute Zero is better than what he can resist

Edit: I have work, I'll be mostly unavailable for the next 8hrs or so

 

[FARLANDER3305]

Can a ben 10 supporter Give me scan to prove
Base Pyronites <Base Big chill < ultimate big chill < Heatblast?

 

[Zackra1799]

Can a ben 10 supporter Give me scan to prove
Base Pyronites <Base Big chill < ultimate big chill < Heatblast?

That chain doesn't even matter; it only matters if Ultimate Big Chill scales below absolute zero, something that isn't currently accepted, but even if it was, Heat Blast would only scale to baseline below absolute zero, while Gray has a multi-character scaling chain past that. So the point you are trying to make is entirely moot

 

[Epiccheev]

Ben would have to beat him before he undresses and messes up his show's rating.


Btw, would flash freeze kill him or just trap him in ice? Because if it's the latter he'd have no choice other than break out of it with super nova.

 

[DemonicDude]

before he undresses

scan of undressing (asking for scientific purposes only)