Naruto Uzumaki vs Son Goku Part 2 [13-2-0]

[MochOath]

i was joking about them being dead and washed

Naruto Uzumaki (New Era)

Attack Potency: 29.23 Foe with Baryon Mode
Durability: 29.23 Foe with Baryon Mode
Lifting Strength: >90.816 quintillion Metric Tons with Baryon Mode


Son Goku (Early Majin Buu Saga)

Attack Potency: 26.325 Foe with Kaioken x10, up to far higher with Kamehameha
Durability: 26.325 Foe with Kaioken x10
Lifting Strength: >3,002,361.41 Tons


Naruto starts in Baryon Mode
Goku starts in Kaioken x10
Goku's abilities beyond Large Star level are restricted
Speed is Equalized

True Resolve: karo_senpaii, M3X_2.0, AlternativePrinciple, DavidTPPM, XSOULOFCINDERX, Saqphire, Mommyleona, Nonynho, FARLANDER3305, R81handman, Fallen_Angelicx, Raiden38, Robo432343
The Saiyan of Legends: GodlyCharmander, MannyQ361
Inconclusive:

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Literally what's Goku's wincon here? He just gets outlasted and stomped before Baryon Mode ends. He can skill stomp, maybe, but it won't matter to someone 4x stronger than him. Goku can't win

 

[ARandomDude127]

oh god not this again

 

[SharkBook01]

If Goku is starting out in Kaioken 100x, then he's not messing around and will instantly nuke Naruto with his strongest attack, which is seemingly listed as having star-level attack potency.

up to far higher with Kamehameha, even higher with the Spirit Bomb (Killed a Tree of Might Fruit Empowered Turles and Giant Slug)

Turles and Lord Slug are star level.

Attack Potency: Large Star level (Defeated Piccolo with relative ease, who's as strong as Saiyan Saga Vegeta. Believed that Great Ape Gohan was no match for him and would have killed him had Goku not intervened),

Attack Potency: Star level (Casually killed Zeeun with a Finger Beam and vastly superior to his henchmen, who are superior to Saiyan Saga Vegeta) |

Unless these profiles are out of date, leaning toward Goku.

 

[GodlyCharmander]

If Goku is starting out in Kaioken 100x, then he's not messing around and will instantly nuke Naruto with his strongest attack, which is seemingly listed as having star-level attack potency.



Turles and Lord Slug are star level.





Unless these profiles are out of date, leaning toward Goku.

Great, how is Goku achieving any of these attacks without being tagged by Naruto, or tagged by clones, or tagged by literally any other technique? You're assuming Naruto will just stay put while Goku charges when Baryon Mode is taijutsu-focused. How can you vote without developing a winning condition?

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Great, how is Goku achieving any of these attacks without being tagged by Naruto, or tagged by clones, or tagged by literally any other technique? You're assuming Naruto will just stay put while Goku charges when Baryon Mode is taijutsu-focused. How can you vote without developing a winning condition?

Also, Naruto is Solar System level, these attacks wouldn't kill him anyway. Kaioken x100 Goku is already Large Star level.

 

[MannyQ361]

Maybe Early Buu Saga Goku could work if his Super Saiyan transformations are restricted.

 

[SharkBook01]

Also, Naruto is Solar System level, these attacks wouldn't kill him anyway. Kaioken x100 Goku is already Large Star level.

yeah nvm I misread the profiles. Goku probably can't do anything here then

 

[FARLANDER3305]

How much those ki blasts upscale from kaioken 100x goku tho like if oneshot level the Naruto might get knocked out

 

[FARLANDER3305]

yeah nvm I misread the profiles. Goku probably can't do anything here then

İ dont know Man if ki blasts are one shot level above goku can use them since his attack speed is much higher than Naruto's reaction speed

 

[GodlyCharmander]

İ dont know Man if ki blasts are one shot level above goku can use them since his attack speed is much higher than Naruto's reaction speed

Speed is equalized, Kamehameha is 4x higher than physicals, so 20 Foe, still below Naruto

 

[FARLANDER3305]

Speed is equalized, Kamehameha is 4x higher than physicals, so 20 Foe, still below Naruto

Hmm i see Naruto having a little Bath in gokus ki blast like meta cooler then grabs goku like İsshiki and curb stomp him with class Z lifting strength
Also i know speed is equalized i specificly said attack speed because his ki blast is seemingly easily reach out the sun and will travel whole Galaxy in 6 days İTS in his profiles
This is stomp

 

[Foriaa]

Naruto grabs with chakra arms and rips his body in half

 

[FARLANDER3305]

Naruto grabs with chakra arms and rips his body in half

Naruto Never does that but i can see hım broking gokus arms

 

[MochOath]

Goku getting dogwalked by a basic punch-kick merchant Naruto is heinous

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Goku getting dogwalked by a basic punch-kick merchant Naruto is heinous

You're saying this like Goku isn't a punch-kick-energy merchant as well, you're basically putting "Weaker Goku vs Stronger Goku" here. This is a stomp, find a better opponent for Naruto or Goku.

 

[MochOath]

punch-kick-energy merchant

Goku has a significant range advantage with his Ki attacks compared to Naruto's h2h (not to mention potential skill diff args)
and hes also not on a strict time limit

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Goku has a significant range advantage with his Ki attacks compared to Naruto's h2h (not to mention potential skill diff args)
and hes also not on a strict time limit

Goku KAIOKEN X100 is not in a strict time limit? Also, Naruto has Ninjutsu as well, are we deadass?

 

[FARLANDER3305]

Goku has a significant range advantage with his Ki attacks compared to Naruto's h2h (not to mention potential skill diff args)
and hes also not on a strict time limit

Naruto has his rasengan and can Even make bigball rasengan or outright make it rasengan barrage 2x amp and call it a day

 

[Foriaa]

Naruto Never does that but i can see hım broking gokus arms

Because the people he grabs can actually withstand his LS. Naruto has a 80 million x advantage over Goku.

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Because the people he grabs can actually withstand his LS. Naruto has a 80 million x advantage over Goku.

I'd like to note that having an advantage in LS is different than being able to tear someone apart.

If Naruto had an advantage in LS, but lower AP, he would be able to restrict Goku, he would not be able to rip him apart. Thankfully that's not the case here.

 

[Foriaa]

I'd like to note that having an advantage in LS is different than being able to tear someone apart.

I understand this, its why I think Naruto rips him in half.

His AP is nearly 6x Goku's dura, the guy gets his balls removed

 

[MochOath]

Goku KAIOKEN X100 is not in a strict time limit?

*as strict a time limit

Also, Naruto has Ninjutsu as well, are we deadass?

Naruto intentionally limits ninjutsu use to a minimum in the mode
hes not gonna be spamming ranged nukes

 

[GodlyCharmander]

I understand this, its why I think Naruto rips him in half.

His AP is nearly 6x Goku's dura, the guy gets his balls removed

Unfortunately, there isn't a version of Goku that doesn't get stomp, or reverse stomps this fight. Even Manga Goku kinda stomps here after the Cell Saga.

 

[GodlyCharmander]

*as strict a time limit

He is, the Kaioken x100 lasted for one (1) singular rush attack. Goku is dying in 10 seconds using ts. Naruto can last minutes.

Naruto intentionally limits ninjutsu use to a minimum in the mode
hes not gonna be spamming ranged nukes

That's a choice, not a limitation. If he sees that a ninjutsu would be the best answer (since Goku would literally curbstomp him in hand-to-hand), he would.

Not that it matters, Goku can barely damage the dude.

 

[Foriaa]

Even Manga Goku kinda stomps here after the Cell Saga.

I mean if Goku gets changed to his Manga keys, then changing Naruto to Isshiki would be fair.

 

[GodlyCharmander]

I mean if Goku gets changed to his Manga keys, then changing Naruto to Isshiki would be fair.

Base Namek Goku in the manga would already surpass Naruto with a SSJ transformation, or Kaioken.

I'd highly recommend using SSJ Gohan from Cell Saga.

 

[MannyQ361]

Would Early Buu Saga Goku with his Super Saiyan transformations restricted be feasible? He'd still have Kaioken to fall back on.

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Would Early Buu Saga Goku with his Super Saiyan transformations restricted be feasible? He'd still have Kaioken to fall back on.

He'd one shot Naruto and speedblitz him, no

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Starting him off in Kaioken X100 is like a disaster waiting to happen

 

[Iabihs]

Starting him off in Kaioken X100 is like a disaster waiting to happen

i thought there couldnt be a worse form then baryon mode for stamina but Kioken 100x somehow dethrones that

Goku and Naruto are basically suffering from brittle bones here lmao

 

[R81handman]

Baryon Mode with a Kaioken 100x stress will kill goku via one touch, as Goku has no resistance life force manipulation and Kaikon is basically using up your life force. and why are we using Toei scaling? Not the manga scaling?

 

[MochOath]

Kaioken 100x anime Goku has the closest stats to BM Naruto of all his versions
i could change it to Perfect Cell, but he would probably low diff Naruto

 

[MannyQ361]

Kaioken 100x anime Goku has the closest stats to BM Naruto of all his versions
i could change it to Perfect Cell, but he would probably low diff Naruto

Well if you start Manga Early Buu Saga Goku at Kaioken x10, he'd be at 26 Foe.

 

[MochOath]

Well if you start Manga Early Buu Saga Goku at Kaioken x10, he'd be at 26 Foe.

Kaoiken isnt actually listed on his profile, but if its valid then ok

 

[MannyQ361]

Kaoiken isnt actually listed on his profile, but if its valid then ok

It's in his Frieza Arc tab but his Buu saga self should still be able to use it.

 

[MochOath]

Ok, changed Goku to his manga form

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Now we have a fight.

Goku is on a timer, as Kaioken still ***** him a bit. But so is Naruto. Assuming this is IC, Naruto will likely try to go hand-to-hand against Goku.

I'd imagine Goku skill stomps Naruto in hand-to-hand combat given his analytical precognition, and just overall higher experience. Given their proximity in power, Goku would put belt to ass in the first few seconds of the fight.

Further more, Goku's tactics are often punching a mf so hard they fly away, as he chases them into the air. Once Goku takes the fight into the air, he will have an overwhelming advantage, as his mobility makes Baryon Mode's look like a joke. While Goku will see that he is winning, and that he could end the fight with a Kaioken x20, doubling his power temporarily, I imagine Goku could end the fight with a Kaioken x20 Kamehameha, which would be in one shot range from Naruto.

Naruto only wins if he changes tactics and uses Ninjutsu to counter Goku's superior martial arts, but that's not in character for him to start with, and he would probably be cooked before he had the chance to fly away, as Goku can immediately speed up with a Kaioken x20.

I vote for Goku.

 

[TegamiBachi25]

Goku generally also has more techniques at this point as well with IT and his body should be able to handle KKx10 much better since this is Buu Saga. Leaning towards Goku unless anyone has any arguments for Naruto

 

[Kellex]

Goku is on a timer, as Kaioken still ***** him a bit.

Not quite. By the time he arrived on Namek, he was able to endure Kaioken 10x and then eventually 20x during his fight with Frieza, but given that Buu Saga Goku can use Super Kaioken (SSJ + Kaioken), I'm pretty sure the damages from Kaioken 10x would be negligible at this point.