"Jane Juliet vs. Kaisen" (Ryu Ishigori vs. Yuji Itadori) (0-7-0) (Grace)

[Anonymous_Learner]

Sequel to this
I'm on that Ryu Hype Train after season 3 and Yuji my boy so, after the Kashimo Matchup, i wanted two big JJK Larps to battle against each other.
The Battle Takes Place in Sendai Colony, distance is 5 meters, Yuji starts Awakened, and Yuji's "likely matter manipulation" is granted.

The REAL Strongest of the Edo Period:
The Strongest of Tomorrow: @Sus, @XSOULOFCINDERX, @Sir_sun_man, @EldemadeDityjon, @Anonymous_Learner, @AyOgUyS, @MannyQ361
Yuta (and Rika) Solo (Duo) Both (Inconclusive Votes go here):

 

[Sus]

that's tough, but im leaning towards yuji
granite blast cant wont do massive damage and whatever it does gets healed

yuji again weakens ryu with every hit

sukuna confirms ryu > yuji physically but does yuji get stronger after awakening?

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

that's tough, but im leaning towards yuji
granite blast cant wont do massive damage and whatever it does gets healed

yuji again weakens ryu with every hit

fair points

sukuna confirms ryu > yuji physically but does yuji get stronger after awakening?

1000% despite the profile not really mentioning it (I WILL 100% get around to that at some point).
Not only do we know from Shibuya that Black Flashes bring out 120% of a user's potential after hitting a one and we know from Gojo that Black Flashes, especially chaining them, makes ones output climb, Yuji's stated to have an awakening after his black flash with the narratator stating that he unleashed his potential in that blow (His potential's equal to sukuna's), performs way better (Tanks a Sukuna BF), implied from Sukuna that Yuji's black flash chain was bringing him closer and closer to his level and even showed it (Yuji's initial black flashes are generally endured besides some minor bruising only for the later black flashes to destroy half of sukuna's face mask)
Sadly, again, it's not on profile so, basically, imagine this matchup as Start of Shinjuku Yuji with shrine and a domain but no stat buff (So Ryu>Yuji in durability)

 

[Sus]

sukuna said a few BV-amped dismantles are fatal

this might go into stomp territory if imma be honest

obviously they both have their domains, but both domains are featless

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Yuji is putting belt to ass on this dude in a fist fight, bro was basically going band for band with Sukuna in raw H2H skill once they got close in stats despite him having four arms and Yuji having two.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

that's tough, but im leaning towards yuji
granite blast cant wont do massive damage and whatever it does gets healed

yuji again weakens ryu with every hit

sukuna confirms ryu > yuji physically but does yuji get stronger after awakening?

Sukuna didn't say Ryu was stronger. His implications was they are around same level.

 

[Sir_sun_man]

ryu gets oblitirated here due to his character honestly, yuji should be more than capable of enduring a few Granita (yes its granita not granite as its a reference to a french dessert called granite in french but I can't put the ` over the e so I'm using the english name for it) blasts (as he is just as durable as domain yuta who is more durable than sendai yuta) and close the distance and at that point ryu is cooked, sukuna who has a far better grasp on the soul as well as just plain better durability and CE application than ryu flat out said that yuji's soul dismantles are lethal to reincarnated types like him and ryu meaning that the moment the distance is closed ryu will go in for a CQC clash at which point he loses a good chunk of his output, body control and stats in general and then will be hit by soul cleaves which will honestly instantly rip him off of his vessel (aka the fight is mid diff at best due to ryu's personality and yuji being a hard counter for any reincarnated sorcerer like him)

Now if this is a hypothetical Edo prime Ryu vs a hypothetical post shinjuku yuji.... yuji takes it and its not close for one simple reason, that boy some how, some fuсking way managed to survive being over a few seconds in the center of sukuna's domain (yes it was falling apart but it was specifically stated that the output of the domain remained the same due to the binding vow (that led to the domain breaking in 99 seconds)) and this is 20F level output mind you this shit would have ryu in pieces on the floor instantly but yuji at that point in the raid had enough CE understanding (due to the black flashes which DO improve your understanding of CE and its applications) to rainforce himself to a level where the shrine wouldn't instantly turn him to dust so a full health post shinjuku yuji is at a level where he is more durable, stronger, has RCT, faster and has a better CT than ryu, The only potential issue would be domain but even then yuji's simple domain managed to survive for over a minute in the eye of the storm that is the Malevolent shrine meaning that in Ryu's domain he'd have a substentially greater amount of time not only to move in and damage ryu but also set up his own domain.


Yeah yuji takes it no matter how you slice it.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Let me put it in simple terms:

• H2H and CQC = Yuji.
• Domain = both are featless, so let’s not talk about that for now, but Yuji still has good SD.
• CT = Ryu is pure raw power, while Yuji has hax. Just a small drop of blood would put Ryu down for at least three days. Also, Cleave and Dismantle are too much for Ryu since he doesn’t have any RCT, and he is in a reincarnated body, so Yuji can actually rip his soul out & Ryu can't do anything about physical damage. Yuji should be able to survive anything Ryu throws at him due to his endurance feats, such as surviving a 20F output from Sukuna’s Domain Cleave and his RCT.
• Sts = Yuji shouldn’t be physically that much differ from Ryu. Sukuna just stated he doesn’t surpass Ryu—that doesn’t mean he is weaker; they should be comparable. Gege always clarifies if the difference is too big, like how Naoya and Hanami’s durability was compared.

Yuji should take this easily.

 

[Hecky2222]

Let me put it in simple terms:

• H2H and CQC = Yuji.
• Domain = both are featless, so let’s not talk about that for now, but Yuji still has good SD.
• CT = Ryu is pure raw power, while Yuji has hax. Just a small drop of blood would put Ryu down for at least three days. Also, Cleave and Dismantle are too much for Ryu since he doesn’t have any RCT, and he is in a reincarnated body, so Yuji can actually rip his soul out & Ryu can't do anything about physical damage. Yuji should be able to survive anything Ryu throws at him due to his endurance feats, such as surviving a 20F output from Sukuna’s Domain Cleave and his RCT.
• Sts = Yuji shouldn’t be physically that much differ from Ryu. Sukuna just stated he doesn’t surpass Ryu—that doesn’t mean he is weaker; they should be comparable. Gege always clarifies if the difference is too big, like how Naoya and Hanami’s durability was compared.

Yuji should take this easily.

I agree with this wank. So Yuji FRA

 

[Sus]

Sukuna didn't say Ryu was stronger. His implications was they are around same level.

they don't surpass him in toughness = theyre marginally less durable

 

[Sus]

MS was still taking limbs off of yuji and he barely survived, and sukuna purposely stopped it iirc

but yeah everything else makes sense, yuji mid diffs

 

[LaserPrecision]

they don't surpass him in toughness = theyre marginally less durable

In what world does not surpassing someone mean you are inferior to them? That just means you aren't superior.

 

[Sus]

In what world does not surpassing someone mean you are inferior to them? That just means you aren't superior.

at most

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

they don't surpass him in toughness = theyre marginally less durable

It didn't say anything about less. Doesn't surpass can mean they are relative. Idk where you are getting this they are less durable thing.

MS was still taking limbs off of yuji and he barely survived, and sukuna purposely stopped it iirc

but yeah everything else makes sense, yuji mid diffs

It only took his leg. Also Sukuna didn't stopped it. It was the timer on the domain since it only lasted for 99 sec. "He barely survived?" One cleave from 16F Sukuna cooked Ryu. Yuji's feat is way better than that.

 

[Sus]

Also Sukuna didn't stopped it. It was the timer on the domain since it only lasted for 99 sec

sukuna removed the timer, or was that only against yuta?

anyway i already vote yuji

 

[Sus]

awakened yuji lowkey beating everyone's ahh

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

sukuna removed the timer, or was that only against yuta?

anyway i already vote yuji

It’s the time limit that Sukuna’s domain lasted. Against Yuta, he shortened the range, which made Sukuna’s domain last for 3 minutes. Both are different cases. It’s not about whom you are voting for—I’m just correcting your misunderstanding about Yuji and Ryu.

Yuji surviving MS is a much better feat than anything Ryu has tanked. He got cooked by 16F Sukuna, while Yuji tanked a full-output domain from Sukuna. Ryu doesn't sts cap Yuji. They should be relative if not Awakened Yuji is just stronger.

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

counting votes but I'm curious.
should i make Yuji start in not Awakened to make it more fair or do yall believe Yuji punches Ryu out of his vessel anyway and potentially just Awakened anyway with a black flash and we're back here again?

 

[Sus]

counting votes but I'm curious.
should i make Yuji start in not Awakened to make it more fair or do yall believe Yuji punches Ryu out of his vessel anyway and potentially just Awakened anyway with a black flash and we're back here again?

non awakened yuji still damages the soul

 

[Sir_sun_man]

counting votes but I'm curious.
should i make Yuji start in not Awakened to make it more fair or do yall believe Yuji punches Ryu out of his vessel anyway and potentially just Awakened anyway with a black flash and we're back here again?

none awakened yuji still takes the win due to the whole punching the boundery between the souls but the difficulty is higher like high to extreme diff to be honest

 

[Sir_sun_man]

awakened yuji lowkey beating everyone's ahh

honestly unless your name is kenjaku or yuta (not counting the calamities cuse I mean common) you just lose to post shinjuku yuji, his stats are quite a bit higher then yuta who at this point is only behind kenjaku because of kenny's open barrier domain (in a straight 1v1 no domains I'd put my money on yuta since during shinjuku he is around as strong as ryu in pure stats (a bit below him) who should just outright have the highest stats out of all the culling game players not named Ryomen Sukuna since ya know highest output in the culling games statement and sukuna specifically compering the boys durability to him and not someone like say yorozu meaning Sukuna himself has Ryu as the bench mark for a durable opponent which says A LOT) and everyone else is either getting hard countered due to being incarnated or just does not have the stats to keep up.

 

[Sir_sun_man]

oh and just to drive home the whole awakened yuji's stats being way higher here is some stuff

maki the stat queen her self gets hit with one black flash and a combo of dismantles and is out of the fight for good (she survives but is just not capable of fighting any further)

Now here is my goat yuji

shoulder checks sukuna's black flash

Sukuna himself says that yuji is just tanking both his punches and slashes (this is after he said that yuji was climbing to his level)

and so there is no "oh sukuna is holding back"

literal first page of the next chapter, this is the same type of phrase which was used for gojo when he hit his second black flash and locked in during chapter 235 meaning that both sukuna and yuji are currently going all out.

So yeah pure stat wise awakened yuji is top 3 in JJK (he isn't top 3 overall just pure physicals)

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

oh and just to drive home the whole awakened yuji's stats being way higher here is some stuff

maki the stat queen her self gets hit with one black flash and a combo of dismantles and is out of the fight for good (she survives but is just not capable of fighting any further)

Now here is my goat yuji

shoulder checks sukuna's black flash

Sukuna himself says that yuji is just tanking both his punches and slashes (this is after he said that yuji was climbing to his level)

and so there is no "oh sukuna is holding back"

literal first page of the next chapter, this is the same type of phrase which was used for gojo when he hit his second black flash and locked in during chapter 235 meaning that both sukuna and yuji are currently going all out.

So yeah pure stat wise awakened yuji is top 3 in JJK (he isn't top 3 overall just pure physicals)

I'm seeing yuji praise in broad daylight, this is peak.
Voting for Yuji FRA and have counted all ya'll votes

 

[AyOgUyS]

Yuji FRA

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

bump

 

[MannyQ361]

Voting Yuji fra.

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

Vote counted, that's grace