NON TOURNAMENT MATCH: Halibel vs Kamen Rider Glare (3 DAYS Deadline for matches PASSED & Both parties agreed on incon)

[DemonicDude]

Maybe we should just disqualify both characters lol

Unless in the next 24 hours both @Shadowslash125 and @SatellaTheWoE does not agree on who wins, I'll be force to disqualify both (for prolonging the tournament.)

 

[Shadowslash125]

Unless in the next 24 hours both @Shadowslash125 and @SatellaTheWoE does not agree on who wins, I'll be force to disqualify both (for prolonging the tournament.)

Tbf, who's gonna vote for who is very obvious. We're just gonna vote for our own characters.
Also aye, I forgor to write the summary. Tomorrow morning it is.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Halibel for staellas reasons atm

may change my vote later

 

[DontTalkDT]

Unless in the next 24 hours both @Shadowslash125 and @SatellaTheWoE does not agree on who wins, I'll be force to disqualify both (for prolonging the tournament.)

To make this funnier, you should add an incentive for the case that they both switch their votes to their respective character losing.

 

[DemonicDude]

To make this funnier, you should add an incentive for the case that they both switch their votes to their respective character losing.

i'm not that strict
I like....um making love while trying to not screw people over

Oh, I need a list of something, basically on my profile send me (the wirest way people has gotten lifting strength examples of characters on this site)

 

[VortechsTG]

Fate-based precog, skill such that he can ignore the laws of physics and even logic itself, and furthermore, with his abilities, toy with other characters at that level of skill, stealth mastery that simple analysis, even on a universal scale, cannot bypass, an ability to one-shot through the force field, and clones that mean he doesn't even have to get close to do so.

I am voting Halibel.

And, yeah, it sounds like they should probably both be disqualified

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Fate-based precog, skill such that he can ignore the laws of physics and even logic itself, and furthermore, with his abilities, toy with other characters at that level of skill, stealth mastery that simple analysis, even on a universal scale, cannot bypass, an ability to one-shot through the force field, and clones that mean he doesn't even have to get close to do so.

Remember, this is a shock rock victim

 

[Kachon123]

Remember, this is a shock rock victim

 

[DaReaperMan]

KRG FRA

 

[Lort15]

I'II go with Halibel

 

[Shadowslash125]

Bruh

Tell me you never read through the arguments without telling me you never read through the arguments.

Fate-based precog,

Fate-Based intuition, don't twist the profile into making it precog. This ultimately means nothing if said action is just the same (or even inferior) to rider precog in the first place. This isn't Yhwach or even Gotrek Gurnisson levels of fate hax in the first place. Glare's already part of the skill chain that already has people in a cat and mouse race of ever evolving precog in the first place.
If it's part of precog, do make a crt and add it to the profile.
Also prove he can fate intuition actual precog users, not just AnPr users.

skill such that he can ignore the laws of physics and even logic itself

Yup, you clearly didn't read it. I'll proceed to quote every skillslop again (probably wouldn't matter since you won't read it again lol but whatever)

Now here's the actual skillslop.
I'm throwing this out first and saying that Glare is much more skilled than meets the eye.


Experience is fun and all, but it isn't really the "be all, end all" kinda deal. A person can have a gazillion years worth of experience, but can still unconventionally lose to another guy seeming less experienced than him. Not that it's invalid, mind you, but there should be some sort of actual feat backing up said experience.
To put it into example, this guy's the strongest swordsman on Earth at the time. Yet, even with this much experience, he loses out to this guy even though the latter's just a rookie and their actual swordsmanship skills are worlds apart. How is this possible? Saber uses his intelligence combined with his versatility to capitalize on the many powers and abilities he gains, letting him rival the best of the best swordsmen even when his actual swordsmanship is inferior to the rest. Keep in mind that all Calibur users can receive countless visions and timelines of the future. Even though this Calibur doesn't spam it as much in combat, this is very important since it will come back to this post.


However, every Geats Riders and their mothers have the resistance against AnPR by being able to go toe-to-toe with Magnum users who have AnPr and homing bullets. And this isn't even bringing up the funni Saber & 01 scaling:

• Remember Calibur? The second Calibur spams precog that allows him to precog entire timelines of the future right from the present, and he's able to keep spamming it to see just about every move the Saber Riders would make so that he can easily counter them. This also doesn't counteract the fact he's already a very good swordsman in his own right, since he can also fight against that first Calibur relatively well. However, Saber's the star of the show, so he's dispatched off despite having such high level precog.
• Kamen Rider Durendal is able to erase time (similar to King Crimson) and defeat about every single Kamen Rider he has faced in his few debut episodes. This is a problem the seasonedfighters struggle to go up against him. While Saber did end up being able to see Durendal in his erased time mode to aid him in AnPring his attacks much more easily, characters like Blades, who doesn't have such luxury, is able to tag him with just pure skill alone.
• Remember when 01 was the poster child for bullshit precog with quadrillions of battle scenarios being precogged within a mere second or something along the lines? The weakest precog in 01 was potent enough to counter TP spam and speedblitz simultaneously. There's also the fact that said precog is also able to accurately precog the fact that the current timeline is going to be erased into another timeline, and then that other timeline becoming the original timeline again, all in the span of one sitting. Post-Series 01 Riders are no joke, and yet one Saber Rider is able to clash swords against one of these post-series Riders without much issue.

Geats Riders are high in the scaling because Geats casually defeated Kamen Rider Revi in their skirmish, who can fight alongside both Saber and Zero One equally. This is the same Geats that Glare is able to stalemate while also having two other Riders who can catch up with Ace to deal with alongside Geats.


Here is Geats dodging an explosion even though he was caught right inside it!


Zoous, one of the general Megids, is also able to do the same. In fact, the moment he sees a technique, he's able to counter it even in that same fight. However, he also got defeated by the Saber Riders, who Glare is around or marginally above. So this is funny.


Everyone can dodge rain. Hell I can too! It's called an umbrella.
Jokes aside, if a Rider can fight evenly against people who speedblitz him, has high level precog and can fight against bullshit time erasure, Halibel has his work cut out for him since he's genuinely gonna struggle. Remember, Geats dodged an actual explosion while he was inside one, and also this is what he can do with two bullets and a gun. This feat was done without Magnum's AnPr abilities btw.

Also dodging omnidirectional ranged attacks is average in the day and life of a Kamen Rider.

Let me clear this part up. Durendal's time manipulation doesn't just "go behind". It deletes time within a space so that characters skip forwards in time. Confused for being a teleport, it makes it, so the person has no idea where Durendal, themselves and anyone within the space ends ups at. So, it ***** with the positioning of multiple characters and is unpredictable because you can't predict an erased time. Also, the way Durendal uses it is that he spams and does it mid enemy attack, so he is quite a scumbag. TLDR: Its like when you skip ahead in a youtube video and now you are wonder wtf is going on.

For Calibur, he spammed a countless number of future visions to the point where can knows exactly what Saber says to him in every scenario. These future visions span to the end of the world. A big part of Kamen Rider is to be able to change the future. There are a lot of cases where it shows that the future changes. Calibur is able to see the future, but it changes because something happens.

If that's not convincing, Saber riders are shown to scale to 01 riders. 01 riders upscale a very long chain of precognition with one of the best being KR 02

• Zero-Two Arithmetic (ゼロツーアリスマテック, Zerotsū Arisumatekku): Zero-Two's faceplate processor. During the battle, the artificial intelligence There extracts the thoughts of the matching person and learns the enemy and surrounding information to predict the behavior. The optimal solution is found in about 0.01 seconds from the 2 trillion patterns of attack and evasion patterns derived from it, and it is reported to the matching person. This ultra-fast learning allows the user to take advantage of the battle.

Kamen Rider Z2's components (There) also predicted entire alternate timelines where itself doesn't exist so there's that.

But even better than those, is Kamen Rider 03. They fought Kamen Rider Zein, who was using Hyper Clock Up (This is the best video i can find on it copyright lol). So he uses Kamen Rider Kabuto's card which makes him go Hyper Clock Up. Basically, their precognition can hit targets going at immeasurable speed.

• In addition to high-speed movement, the Hyper Clock-Up can also transcend time, allowing the rider to travel back and forth to the past and future. When Kamen Rider GATACK = Arata Kagami lost his life due to an attack by Camaras Worm, he was able to save him by going back in time and defeating Camaras Worm to alter the future.

and better than that, is KR Regad Omega who can see the past and future of any event. Whom the Geats riders also defeated.

• Lops Precog Vision (ロプスプレコグヴィジョン, Ropusu Purekog Vijon): The visual device. High-dimensional images processed in real time from cameras on various parts of the body are displayed on an internal hemispherical monitor to provide a seamless view of the real and virtual worlds. It can see up to 100 angles simultaneously using the camera of Each terminal, and can also see into the past and future of any event.

and better than that, the Saber riders in the endgame was able to fight and go toe to toe with an omniscient being. Who also scales as "close as possible" to the Almighty Book.

• Grimoire Visor (グリモワールバイザー, Gurimowāru Baizā): The full visor mask. By directly acting as a visor in the table of contents of the omnipotent and omnipotent book, it is possible to reflect the truth of the world and capture it as visual information. In addition, all information can be browsed at any time.
• Storious Cuirass (ストリウスキュイラス, Sutoriusu Kyuirasu): The chest and shoulder armor. It plays the role of a construction circuit that spins the power of the Wonder Ride Book and Alter Ride Book contained in the Grimoire Wonder Ride Book, and can cause a powerful phenomenon through the armor. It is also possible to combine different folklore powers in a complex way to bring about a wide range of immeasurable events.
• All of creation within Saber is said to have been generated by a single artifact, referred to here as the「Almighty Book」. This book contains the sum total of all knowledge and concepts, with human history and its accumulated knowledge constituting only a small fraction of its contents.

Edit: omg bruh all my links were deleted bc discord is banned

toy with other characters at that level of skill

stealth mastery that simple analysis, even on a universal scale, cannot bypass

Me when I pull out my interdimensional radar (my enemy cannot erase his presence dimensionally)

an ability to one-shot through the force field

Only correct thing in a word salad of vomit.

and clones that mean he doesn't even have to get close to do so.

Would be very obvious to Glare if one guy isn't moving while the clones are.

Anywho, I'll write a summary that's unbiased as possible (no promises tho)

 

[Shadowslash125]

Summary​

Halibel​

• Death Hax (wrapped in a bundle with curse and stat reduction, NOT FROM DEADSPOT)
• Shadow Manip (when hit)

Glare​

• Info Analysis & Extrasensory Perception (hard counters Halibel stealth combo, and makes him aware of anything he can pull out in real time)
• Mind Control (when hit ofc but still)
• Detachable Balls that can shoot energy blasts and create forcefields, allowing them to fight independently alongside him
• 4-D Tech (can't be powernulled without proof)

Contested​

• Skillslop
• Whether they should be disqualified for infringing tiersetter
  

Also, obviously, I'm voting for Glare.

 

[Crymachina]

yassssss my goat satella show em kinggg

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Its ironic you talk about not reading through the arguments when you yourself didn't even glance at it properly. There is no other way you didnt even manage to glean a single thing otherwise

maybe lack of reading comprehension but i wont point fingers unlike you

Tell me you never read through the arguments without telling me you never read through the arguments.


Fate-Based intuition, don't twist the profile into making it precog.

starting with a strawman? damn

This ultimately means nothing if said action is just the same (or even inferior) to rider precog in the first place. This isn't Yhwach or even Gotrek Gurnisson levels of fate hax in the first place. Glare's already part of the skill chain that already has people in a cat and mouse race of ever evolving precog in the first place.
If it's part of precog, do make a crt and add it to the profile.
Also prove he can fate intuition actual precog users, not just AnPr users.

Unlike the kamen rider profiles, our profiles actually do in fact have things listed.

Fate Manipulation & Blessed (Several individuals, through their intuition, consistently select the "correct answer" in various situations as they are loved by fate itself. Fate is a law of the world used by the Observers, supernatural existences that are beyond the framework, to manipulate every event at will. To the Observers, the world is nothing more than a puppet show of fixed events and predestined fate

Martial artists and warriors, as well as magicians, can predict their opponent's next moves by intuition, experience, or reading the form of mana

Halibel can and will be able to correctly respond to anpr that uses mathematics because fate will just side with him to always choose the correct counter. Comparing this to Yhwach or Gotrek is just a sad attempt at false equivalency, it doesnt matter if its as potent as some of the best examples or not if you can't deal with it anyway.

Yup, you clearly didn't read it. I'll proceed to quote every skillslop again (probably wouldn't matter since you won't read it again lol but whatever)

Me when I pull out my interdimensional radar (my enemy cannot erase his presence dimensionally)


Only correct thing in a word salad of vomit.


Would be very obvious to Glare if one guy isn't moving while the clones are.

Anywho, I'll write a summary that's unbiased as possible (no promises tho)

duh, he can mix well with the clones to make sure he isnt easily spotted but its true that he doesnt even need to send the real body to attack, he can just keep spamming clones to send to him, Halibel will also adapt and copy techniques although the fight isnt gonna last long enough for that anyway

Summary​

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holy bias

 

[shootingrock]

Voting for Staring-at-someone-in-a-mean-and-angry-way fra.

Unless shown otherwise, something on par with multiple timelines precog and 2 trillion AnPr is pretty overkill.

 

[Crymachina]

ngl satella got this argument, i vote halibel in accordance with satella's reasoning

 

[Shadowslash125]

Also Double D, update vote count on the title pls.

 

[DemonicDude]

Voting for Staring-at-someone-in-a-mean-and-angry-way fra.

Unless shown otherwise, something on par with multiple timelines precog and 2 trillion AnPr is pretty overkill.

ngl satella got this argument, i vote halibel in accordance with satella's reasoning

two more votes added. shooting rock are you voting for glare ?

 

[Shadowslash125]

two more votes added. shooting rock are you voting for glare ?

He is yea (I'll get to satella in a bit)

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

I already have responded to the skillslop from above, repeating them would just cause this to go in a merry-go-round but i will drop an actual unbiased summary

Summary​

Halibel​

• Death Hax (with curses)
• One shot (deadspot finds the weakness of abilities and has previously one shotted Eugard who was comparable to Halibel, has also one shotted Valgren who resists curse manipulation)
• Shadow Manip (instantly stops all of KRGs movement making him a sitting duck for a one shot)
• Fate precog via intuition that completely counters KRG's anpr
• Powernull that removes the forcefield
• better dodging feats, ranged attacks cannot hit him as he can dodge physically impossible to dodge attacks like rain, rain of light or mists of light
• Better movement
• Clones which make it so he doesn't even need to fight Glare himself
• Any technique/attack that Glare uses once will instantly be countered by Halibel since he can create counters to anything after seeing it once and will never be hit by something even if its in uncountable numbers afterwards

Glare​

• Info Analysis & Extrasensory Perception (can counter Halibel's invisibility)
• Mind Control (unlikely to hit the real halibel)
• Detachable Balls that can shoot energy blasts and create forcefields, allowing them to fight independently alongside him (Halibel can't be hit by ranged attacks, and one shots all forcefields)
• 4-D Tech
• can rip Halibel apart if he gets his hands on him with infinite LS

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[shootingrock]

two more votes added. shooting rock are you voting for glare ?

Yeah (what i wrote was a loose definition of glare)

 

[Kachon123]

Question, is this match still for the tournament?

 

[DemonicDude]

Question, is this match still for the tournament?

yes, will reach it's conclusion today.

 

[MasterOwOgay]

From a mechanical standpoint, Glare’s analytical precognition is ultimately outclassed by fate-based precognition. The latter provides Halibel with the correct course of action as determined by the Observer, ensuring that no matter how Glare responds, the outcome consistently favors Halibel.

Additionally, Halibel’s shadow manipulation can immobilize Glare, effectively rendering him unable to respond and leaving him vulnerable to a finishing blow.

With that established, Halibel’s optimal strategy, which is both effective and entirely in character, is to close the distance using his clones and secure a decisive one-shot. In contrast, Glare would struggle to meaningfully target even the clones, let alone the actual Halibel.

 

[Kachon123]

yes, will reach it's conclusion today.

Smfh

 

[Doggo]

Halibel FRA

 

[DemonicDude]

Grace

 

[Shadowslash125]

btw we should wait 24hrs before advancing halibel

 

[DemonicDude]

i'll wait, at least this match reached a decent conclusion. Hoping to make another match today.

 

[Divini]

KRG fra

 

[Shadowslash125]

Incon grace lol

 

[Gigi_4_life]

Halibel FRA

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Halibel grace lol

 

[Shadowslash125]

Damn our posts are left unread, there are so many signs and the posts in retaliation to mine are definitely not regurgitating the very same points that came from our posts not being read with the correct media literacy... But I can't tell how...

Its ironic you talk about not reading through the arguments when you yourself didn't even glance at it properly. There is no other way you didnt even manage to glean a single thing otherwise

maybe lack of reading comprehension but i wont point fingers unlike you

Right out the gates, and we have a pot calling the kettle black comment?
Let's see... Unlike you and your goons, I made sure to:

• Pay back my argument debts and made sure to retread through every post (even if they're just saying the same thing and I have to provide the same answers)
• Ixa showed scans from the official pages which are translated btw and Mina (despite the disinterest) pointed out their validity.

In response, your lot failed to:

• address this entire post which includes:
  • Being unable to provide whatever tf Valga's Stratagem even is, and why it should be counted as tech
  • Failing to provide proof Halibel can null 4-D Tech (which is an entire ballpark from the normal 3-D tech)
  • Insisting that Deadspot has some sort of death hax on it when the profile specifically states that it's only there for powernull (also failing to prove its death hax in the first place)
  • Failing to respond to Glare's workaround for the Shikamaru Shadow Manip
    • Bonus Question: Glare can float upwards and perch himself in the air. How does his Shadow manipulation account for that (the forcefields cast no shadow so that's out of the question)
  • Failing to prove he can stealth from an interdimensional radar
  • Being unable to prove Halibel's clones being used with real blood, meat and bones when the LN scan states that it's "on par"
• Unable to counter the scan statements beyond saying "this scan comes from csap" or whatever bullshit
  • I will find suitable workarounds for ones that are mtl, however.

And I guess more of my comments will be right depending on how your response here goes.

starting with a strawman? damn

I mean, intuition that allows them to select correct answers to a situation isn't necessarily precog (and even if it is, not on profile lol)
It's literally backseat gaming from the lords above lol. Kamen Rider precog rolls up more than just "move one side and punch this guy like that". The fact that a mere satellite is able to accurately precog tears in time and the fact that the timeline was overridden means that whatever precog that upscales it (basically everyone lol, that was the base foundation) can look that far, which is instrumental in fights. Even if you're being told by the gods to do this or that, these moves appear in the precog anyway, and that means that they can use it to their advantage to work around it. Unlike this vague statement for ReZero, Gotrek's fate manip literally prevents him from dying, so no matter the precog and whatever, he can be defeated, but not killed. Bear in mind that Warhammer fate hax is leagues apart from ReZero's. Also remember that actual precog >>> analytical prediction
Which is exactly why me calling out on fate intuition not being fate precog isn't straw man at all, especially when neither I nor the profile corrupted the words, unlike:

fate-based precognition

Also, Fate is law of the world, huh? Passive Law manip resistance from Kamen Rider Physiology goes brrrrrr.

Unlike the kamen rider profiles, our profiles actually do in fact have things listed.

Fate-based precog

It's powernull that is based on death hax

the strategem was also a tech based thing afterall.

Yea, where are they? Also Valga's profile is barren lol.
Sure, a few of our scans don't come from any profiles, but 90% do, just that they're scattered or have their OG scans dead-linked. These info can still be found in their respective profiles that I think Ixa linked.
Also prove these things for me:

• Deadspot actually working on tech
• Fate being actually precog beyond it just being a throwaway line in that one scan about alderberan, and just being backseat gaming by the world
  • Fate intuition between two people with this same ability
• Deadspot actually having death hax

Then actually making a crt about it lol.

Halibel can and will be able to correctly respond to anpr that uses mathematics because fate will just side with him to always choose the correct counter. Comparing this to Yhwach or Gotrek is just a sad attempt at false equivalency, it doesnt matter if its as potent as some of the best examples or not if you can't deal with it anyway.

Can't be sadder than failing to prove what you say in your posts. Can't be sadder than failing to actually respond to my arguments adequately with scans and proof.
The fact that none of you actually read anything is evident here. The posts about skillslop transitioned from analytical prediction to actual ******* precog a gazillion years ago, yet you're still stuck in the dinosaur age trying to talk about AnPr when Kamen Rider skillslop is built around actual divination precog which is >>>> AnPr in the first place. Yhwach is actively shown to change fate while Gotrek's fate is set in stone and blatant. Rezero fate is just vague terms for PIS masquerading as an actual ability anyway.

duh, he can mix well with the clones to make sure he isnt easily spotted but its true that he doesnt even need to send the real body to attack, he can just keep spamming clones to send to him,

Which is a fundamental problem for Halibel since his real body can be found as clear as day. Also prove he's able to produce more than 4 clones lol. Spamming clones is nothing if he can't go over 4 clones and his real body can be sniped or ****** in the first place.

Halibel will also adapt and copy techniques although the fight isnt gonna last long enough for that anyway

It's not gonna last long before Glare gets his hands on Halibel and explode him or subjugate him under his control but you clearly ain't ready for that talk since you can't even prove me wrong beyond regurgitating word salads

holy bias

The fact that I didn't just put skillslop in my advantage area speaks volumes here, unlike:

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Lemme read this shit real quick

Halibel​

• Death Hax (with curses)

Only correct one (unless you included deadspot, which is just disingenous)

• One shot (deadspot finds the weakness of abilities and has previously one shotted Eugard who was comparable to Halibel, has also one shotted Valgren who resists curse manipulation)

• finds the weakness of abilities

• FINDS THE WEAKNESS OF ABILITIES

This is exactly what I'm saying. IT'S ONLY SHOWN TO POWERNULL ABILITIES.
All this shows is that Eugard isn't resistant to the curses, and for Valgren, this means that in order to not get ****** by death hax, you have to be resistant to ALL THREE abilites.
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DEADSPOT

• Shadow Manip (instantly stops all of KRGs movement making him a sitting duck for a one shot)

Me when my 5 balls on my armor can fight autonomously. Prove he can actually pull a Shikamaru and paralyse more than one object.

• Fate precog via intuition that completely counters KRG's anpr

??????????????​

The fact that none of you actually read anything is evident here. The posts about skillslop transitioned from analytical prediction to actual ******* precog a gazillion years ago, yet you're still stuck in the dinosaur age trying to talk about AnPr when Kamen Rider skillslop is built around actual divination precog which is >>>> AnPr in the first place.

• Powernull that removes the forcefield

Prove he can powernull 4-D tech.

• better dodging feats, ranged attacks cannot hit him as he can dodge physically impossible to dodge attacks like rain, rain of light or mists of light

Prove he can dodge an explosion while inside one.

• Better movement

Non-argument. Should I pull up and just put non-essential advantages like

• Comes from the future
• Game Master
• Is Ace's 'father'

• Clones which make it so he doesn't even need to fight Glare himself

Me when I can immediately find out the real body from the clone

• Any technique/attack that Glare uses once will instantly be countered by Halibel since he can create counters to anything after seeing it once and will never be hit by something even if its in uncountable numbers afterwards

Me when this kind of skillslop is bottom of the barrel in the Kamen Rider skill chain.

Glare​

• Info Analysis & Extrasensory Perception (can counter Halibel's invisibility)

Hey, that's another correct one. Glad to know a broken clock is right twice a day!

• Mind Control (unlikely to hit the real halibel)

The fact that you add these comments lead me to believe this is bias af lol.

• Detachable Balls that can shoot energy blasts and create forcefields, allowing them to fight independently alongside him (Halibel can't be hit by ranged attacks, and one shots all forcefields)

The fact that you add these comments lead me to believe this is bias af lol.

• 4-D Tech

You acknowledge that Glare has 4-D tech but still think Halibel can powernull 4-D tech. This is just weird

• can rip Halibel apart if he gets his hands on him with infinite LS

Only other correct one.

But of course, I'm either just gonna be met with the same responses without proof (aka funni stonewalling), or FRA Trained into oblivion without a single good response in the end.

EDIT: Why do I have random gyazo pages on my post wtf

 

[EvoltOz]

Slash's reasons seem convincing so far.
Glare FRA

 

[Tatsumi504]

Neither side has the justification to be throwing all this shade. Just don't use what isn't on the profiles lol.

Another thing, just because you can see more timelines, erased or not, doesn't mean your precog is better. If these Kamen Riders aren't shown using it in combat, then none of it matters and on that same note, precognition isn't superior to analytical prediction on its own, that'll be determined by how both work and dependent on the person using them.

That's all, not voting. All this drama when either side is gonna be stomped by the guy that can make you dance and vibe till you drop. smh

 

[DaReaperMan]

Neither side has the justification to be throwing all this shade. Just don't use what isn't on the profiles lol.

Another thing, just because you can see more timelines, erased or not, doesn't mean your precog is better. If these Kamen Riders aren't shown using it in combat, then none of it matters and on that same note, precognition isn't superior to analytical prediction on its own, that'll be determined by how both work and dependent on the person using them.

That's all, not voting. All this drama when either side is gonna be stomped by the guy that can make you dance and vibe till you drop. smh

Considering I have Naruto supporters or you lot ahead of me, I'm pretty sure there's gonna be some hare-brained shit going on.

 

[Shadowslash125]

Neither side has the justification to be throwing all this shade. Just don't use what isn't on the profiles lol.

Another thing, just because you can see more timelines, erased or not, doesn't mean your precog is better. If these Kamen Riders aren't shown using it in combat, then none of it matters and on that same note, precognition isn't superior to analytical prediction on its own, that'll be determined by how both work and dependent on the person using them.

That's all, not voting. All this drama when either side is gonna be stomped by the guy that can make you dance and vibe till you drop. smh

First of all, the statements came from official sources. If you're stating that they can't use it on the account of them being not from Toei thensel or any affiliates, then fine. But these spec scans are as legit as they come, and saying they're unusable or something is just disingenuous.
Secondly, we wouldn't be saying or bringing up these funny ass feats and scans if the Riders can't even use it in the first place. I even remembered linking them countering literal time erasure here. Is that conveniently gone from the equation?

If need be, fine, I'm gonna scour for more scans, but the fact that I've proven most of what me and my peers have said compared to the opposition is speaking volumes.

 

[DemonicDude]

it's all over now.

 

[Shadowslash125]

it's all over now.

?
Firstly, that 3-day limitation was for if there's no response in the thread itself. Secondly, the grace time is independent from the match day limitation. Shouldn't grace finish first before the matches end and the winner advances?
I mean, that's kinda what I did with my ruleset for tiersetter and this is copy pasted from it soooooo