supertomioka
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Yeah it's because people genuinely think Kid Buu wins
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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread
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supertomioka
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me > kid buu
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Fatos e feitos, mestre.
Killerdrone123
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DBL was already canon to dbh plus he scales of them so it was already a thing probably
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Mbpoops
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goatllot
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Demigra should be 1-C with Tokitoki not physically 1-C
Mbpoops
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whys that?
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i want to make Arceus vs Tokitoki
Mbpoops
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i mean you can strill do it, toki toki is 1-C
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Son Goku Vs Irontomb (Dragon Ball Vs Honkai: Star Rail)
Son Goku Vs Irontomb Early Cell Saga Toei Goku Attack Potency: 540.38 ZettaFoe, Varies, up to far higher with Kamehameha, even higher after absorbing Spirit Bomb Durability: 540.38 ZettaFoe, even higher after absorbing Spirit Bomb Lifting Strength: Class P Incomplete Irontomb will be used...
GodlyCharmander
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Hype text not present in any version or re-release of the series, hardly something usable for scaling.
The second scan is asking if Goku is the strongest as he absorbs the energy of the universe. The first one is a reference to the phrase Goku says while he turns into Super Saiyan 3. It's saying the form is "going past the limits". Which it is, no one has it besides a literal fusion.
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Buu got weaker upon having Good Buu removed from him
'Weakened by absorption cancellation'
'Weakened by absorption cancellation'
GodlyCharmander
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In fact, we can see in "限界の," that の is present but with no noun following it. Normally の links a modifier to a head noun ("the limit's X"). Here, the head noun is absent.
The title has no subject, the sentence encodes no grammatical agent. It does not say Goku surpasses the limit. It does not say Boo does. It says the surpassing is happening, full stop. The absence of any named subject or pronoun actively resists a single-character reading. Toriyama is not writing a Goku title, he's not being crowned as the strongest. The title NEVER implies he's stronger than before. The title is saying: the fight you are about to read exists in territory the story has never entered. Both fighters are its agents.
BOTH LINES were STRIPPED from the tankōbon, and this is itself meaningful. Also it wasn't written by Toriyama, those the large bold chapter title typography are written by the magazine's editorial and design staff, not handwritten by the author. They are non-canonical promotional overlays, not part of the author’s manuscript. It's an 煽り文, aka, the Japanese definition of a hype text.
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We don't know why they don't add these statements in the reprints, so we can't dismiss it just based off that and why is it "hype text"? Those are terrible reasons to dimiss the mangas literal narration.
The energy he absorbs is not a amp nor is it solely reliant on his own energy... And yes it's asking that's why i didn't definitely say "Goku > Gohan"
Nowhere in the text is it implied it's refrencing the "the one that once again surpasses it's predecessor". It's saying SS3 Goku (he already transformed in the end of the previous chapter, so it can't be refrencing the fact he's transforming because that happened in a different panel in a different chapter) is going beyond his limits.
GodlyCharmander
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We can, if they're not in the re-releases, they are not in the manuscripts. These are ONLY present in the Shounen Jump magazine in the original releases, where editors added 煽り文 (aori-bun), which is literal hype text. We can dismiss it.
In fact, we will.
It's not even a statement, it's practically meaningless. Again, the fact it's ASKING something that's not even implied in the chapter or relevant to the story should already tell you it's aori-bun.
Doesn't matter, the statement doesn't have an agent, and its missing its head noun, it's not attributing the surpassing of limits to anyone.
Also you're using an English translation to debunk the Japanese text, that doesn't work.
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yeah
im pretty sure we dont allow editorial magazine stuff not written by the author
literally happened to sailor moon
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I didn't reload the website yet when i replied, but yeah this makes sense then
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That is pretty high, Xeno Goku is Island level
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- Age Manipulation, Immortality & Regeneration (Types 1, 2, 3 & Up to High-Godly [History]; Comparable to other Eternal Dragons capable of granting these types of immortality,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Super_Shenron_(Anime)#cite_note-DB135-32"><span>[</span>32<span>]</span></a> possessing lifespan-manipulation abilities that allow rejuvenation by several years,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Super_Shenron_(Anime)#cite_note-DBSBM-19"><span>[</span>19<span>]</span></a> and having granted Zamasu immortality and regenerative abilities<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Super_Shenron_(Anime)#cite_note-DBS57-33"><span>[</span></a>
It is stated that Shenron is capable of granting High-Godly regeneration, therefore Zamasu should possess this type of regeneration, especially since he returned even after being erased from all existence by Trunks. Zeno ultimately erased him completely, so he should also possess negation of High-Godly regeneration in his profile.
World of Void
- Nonexistent Physiology (Nature【Type 1】& Aspects【Type 5;〈Space-Time & History〉】) and Beyond-Dimensional Existence (Type 1)
Subspace
- Nonexistent Physiology (Nature【Type 1】; Aspects【Types 2〈Concepts〉& 5〈Space-Time & History〉】) and Beyond-Dimensional Existence (Type 1)
What do you all think about this matter? I think it is worth a try.
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No
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Yes
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I agree with that part
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I thought we accepted the spanish translation as the most accurate one
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Isn't every db ip contained within xenoverse?
Mbpoops
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I guess? Legends just had a xenoverse 2 collab so thats why i asked
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Does anybody have an idea how Vegeta achieved Super Saiyan God by himself in the anime? Or even a theory?
GodlyCharmander
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Contact with God Ki through training with Goku is the only logical explanation.
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Wait he does? How does Shallot scale to the 1-C stuff?
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Weeeell, the story mode for the collab unfortunately doesn't really provide any Xenoverse scaling as the Shallot that appears in the story is early Part 1 Shallot (aka just above Saibamen level Shallot) and the one fight he has with Xeno Trunks was just a simple test so as to see if Shallot can really take care of himself, so there's no reason to assume Xeno Trunks was using any of his 1-C strength (plus even if he did, it would be a massive outlier as this is early Part 1 Shallot, the guy who is sort of above Saibamen).
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