Sailor Moon: Neo General Discussion Thread

[Iamunanimousinthat]

No, Iam, this is not ad hominem. I'll give you that you're better at creating revision threads than me. However I think I'm entitled to call out your misinformation when I see one.

If you think I'm using a forum thread as a "platform", then I'll tell you my point of view: you're just displaying Robert Greene's first law of human nature at its finest, extreme irrationalism. This thread doesn't have the importance you think it does, it's just a thread on a powerscaling forum, not tiktok itself.

Sailor Moon doesn't have the rules "strictly applied" to the series, and if anything, it's the other way around. You contributed at convincing others that the center of the milky way is in fact infinite and unending through a so-called "endless graveyard" and you also think Setsuna, Mamoru, and Ami's statements about the cosmology should be taken ad literam, and thus, in your own words, platformed interpretable statements as the absolute truth, as the holy grail for Sailor Moon's current tiering and future upgrades you kept pushing for.

Sailor Moon requires much less scrutiny for an upgrade than Dragon Ball does (because I'm assuming that's the verse you're referring to). It's an advantage for verses that are not commonly seen in power scaling debates.

Oh brother. Paragraphs continue even though you were objectively wrong. Infinite power was being referred to the gathered star seeds. And notice I never said anything about what statement of infinite power meant or if it was tier-able or meant anything useful. I just pointed out the proper syntax and that your interpretation made no sense. You made the assumptions on your own and started ranting over it.

Also, when I said platform, it was a metaphor for an actual platform that people stand up on to give speeches. Aka, you’re using this thread as a platform to give speeches.Crazy I have to explain that too.

 

[WeDrinkVodka]

Oh brother. Paragraphs continue even though you were objectively wrong. Infinite power was being referred to the gathered star seeds. And notice I never said anything about what statement of infinite power meant or if it was tier-able or meant anything useful. I just pointed out the proper syntax and that your interpretation made no sense. You made the assumptions on your own and started ranting over it.

Also, when I said platform, it was a metaphor for an actual platform that people stand up on to give speeches. Aka, you’re using this thread as a platform to give speeches.Crazy I have to explain that too.

You don't have to explain anything. I'm not an orator or something.

And I don't know about you, but you were clearly implying you were right. Which doesn't sit right with me for reasons explained above. Infinite is the one up above "great".

 

[SailorRanger64]

As someone who for months has seen you trying to 1. repeatedly downgrade Dragon Ball and 2. arguing your pro-tier 1 Sailor Moon points until you're blue in the face, I'd like to establish how reactionary, how biased this post is. Notice how this translation is dubious in the first place. You don't address Galaxia being called a "he", nor do you address the histrionical nature of said translation.

Infinite has been used repeatedly in Japanese media to reflect a synonym for "great, amazing" and helps with the language used to sell Sailor Moon to kids in Japan as seen in the ad above. I'm constantly amazed and bewildered at power scalers taking everything ad literam and defend their points as if they have an ulterior agenda. There is nothing, I repeat nothing, about the translation above that makes any reference to actual infinity, from neither philosophical nor scientific points or view.

Your post, honestly, makes no sense. You're just addressing the way the sentence was built while missing the forest for the trees.

Look at your post, and then look at his and notice the hypocrisy you're showing. Considering you and the other Dragon Ball supporters have been trying nonstop to downgrade the verse, and isn't it a coincidence it's the same people everytime, this is the pot calling the kettle black. And before you think to come at me with anything, I'm a fan of both series, in fact I like Dragon Ball more, so don't even attempt to say I'm biased in any way.

You already had a thread shut down because you couldn't prove the infinity argument before, and if you're going to do it again I suggest making a thread about it, not posting it here. So either you go and read the manga to prove your claims, or simply move on to something else.

 

[WeDrinkVodka]

Look at your post, and then look at his and notice the hypocrisy you're showing. Considering you and the other Dragon Ball supporters have been trying nonstop to downgrade the verse, and isn't it a coincidence it's the same people everytime, this is the pot calling the kettle black. And before you think to come at me with anything, I'm a fan of both series, in fact I like Dragon Ball more, so don't even attempt to say I'm biased in any way.

You already had a thread shut down because you couldn't prove the infinity argument before, and if you're going to do it again I suggest making a thread about it, not posting it here. So either you go and read the manga to prove your claims, or simply move on to something else.

The first law of human nature applies to you as well.

You don't like Dragon Ball more. In my opinion, you're just lying to yourself. Stop lying to yourself. Your username and avatar tell a different story, and if I recall correctly you were always throwing your support for Sailor Moon upgrades, so the pot and the kettle analogy is hilarious.

And as for your last paragraph, listen here: it's okay if I have to 1v2 ignorant arguments. I'm not going to make a thread when you want me to, and if I remember correctly, disagreeing on Sailor Moon aspects was totally fine, since I'm not here trying to cause any chaos.

Honestly I just have to stop and let you keep talking, since you're basically making my arguments for me.

 

[SailorRanger64]

The first law of human nature applies to you as well.

You don't like Dragon Ball more. In my opinion, you're just lying to yourself. Stop lying to yourself. Your username and avatar tell a different story, and if I recall correctly you were always throwing your support for Sailor Moon upgrades, so the pot and the kettle analogy is hilarious.

And as for your last paragraph, listen here: it's okay if I have to 1v2 ignorant arguments. I'm not going to make a thread when you want me to, and if I remember correctly, disagreeing on Sailor Moon aspects was totally fine, since I'm not here trying to cause any chaos.

Honestly I just have to stop and let you keep talking, since you're basically making my arguments for me.

Don't tell me what I like, you just don't like that someone's not buying your arguments. Wow, so my username and avatar is supposed to mean something? Uh huh.

Let me tell you something, Dragon Ball doesn't need my help in Vs debating because everybody and their grandma already supports it, I just nod and agree unless I see something that sticks out in my opinion.

So, do you have any concrete arguments or not?

 

[WeDrinkVodka]

Don't tell me what I like, you just don't like that someone's not buying your arguments. Wow, so my username and avatar is supposed to mean something? Uh huh.

Let me tell you something, Dragon Ball doesn't need my help in Vs debating because everybody and their grandma already supports it, I just nod and agree unless I see something that sticks out in my opinion.

So, do you have any concrete arguments or not?

I've said what I've said. If you nod in agreement and prefer to just stick to that, that's ok. If you like Dragon Ball more than Sailor Moon, that's ok too.

Now, you have not debunked anything prior that I've said. You just made some assumptions about me, and then said you actually like Dragon Ball more, not much more than that.

 

[SailorRanger64]

I've said what I've said. If you nod in agreement and prefer to just stick to that, that's ok. If you like Dragon Ball more than Sailor Moon, that's ok too.

Now, you have not debunked anything prior that I've said. You just made some assumptions about me, and then said you actually like Dragon Ball more, not much more than that.

No what you've said was wrong, not only is that a fact, it's been proven with scans, feats, etc.

Nobody made assumptions about you when you're the one coming to a thread making assumptions that were proven wrong, don't try to play the victim here. Simply read the manga and show anything worth discussing and then we can have a discussion.

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

Anyways!



Have yall seen this? I think this is the perfect mix of the manga and anime in terms of style and fighting styles.

 

[WeDrinkVodka]

No what you've said was wrong, not only is that a fact, it's been proven with scans, feats, etc.

Nobody made assumptions about you when you're the one coming to a thread making assumptions that were proven wrong, don't try to play the victim here. Simply read the manga and show anything worth discussing and then we can have a discussion.

Scans, feats.... source: my ass.

Youre the first person bringing up scans in this show. Look at you here making assumptions about me again.

More importantly, how did this devolve from discussing an ad to "simply read the manga bro?"

edit @Iamunanimousinthat really cute presentation by chibiusa <3

 

[HenshinIntervention]

Anyways!



Have yall seen this? I think this is the perfect mix of the manga and anime in terms of style and fighting styles.

Their movements are very fluid I agree. I don't think Crystal did a great job in showing how agile they really are so I'm glad this shows it off.

 

[SailorRanger64]

Scans, feats.... source: my ass.

Youre the first person bringing up scans in this show. Look at you here making assumptions about me again.

More importantly, how did this devolve from discussing an ad to "simply read the manga bro?"

edit @Iamunanimousinthat really cute presentation by chibiusa <3

Hmm, it's almost as if I read the manga and have evidence or something, reading the actual material what a novel concept. Anyway if you're done here I have other things to do than to do than this pointless back and forth.

 

[WeDrinkVodka]

Hmm, it's almost as if I read the manga and have evidence or something, reading the actual material what a novel concept. Anyway if you're done here I have other things to do than to do than this pointless back and forth.

Then you coming here and causing drama isn't the best point to make imo

this was about an ad, not the actual manga

 

[SailorRanger64]

Then you coming here and causing drama isn't the best point to make imo

this was about an ad, not the actual manga

Says I'm causing drama, yet keeps replying

Sure buddy, sure thing. Here's an idea, try taking a break from the internet for a bit and cool off, I'm more than willing to talk if there's something to talk about.

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

Their movements are very fluid I agree. I don't think Crystal did a great job in showing how agile they really are so I'm glad this shows it off.

Yes! I also like seeing the attacks done without stock footage.

 

[WeDrinkVodka]

Says I'm causing drama, yet keeps replying

Sure buddy, sure thing. Here's an idea, try taking a break from the internet for a bit and cool off, I'm more than willing to talk if there's something to talk about.

If you want me to tell you what I'm going through, my dm is open, but I don't think this is relevant to the ad discussion. And I don't think armchair psychology is gonna help me, for reasons that go far beyond the scope of this thread