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Life manipulation - biological manipulation:

In Episode 4, Uzi Doorman unintentionally transforms an arrow into an unidentified living being, essentially creating a new kind of species.

It is indeed a living being, as it has eyes, is capable of movement, and produces sounds. This implies that it possesses organs and a form of animal consciousness. Therefore, this feat demonstrates that, with the Absolute Solver, one can manipulate the composition of matter to the point of creating life.

This ability should also be shared with other administrators such as Doll and Cyn.


Analytical prediction for Uzi:

Analytical prediction for Uzi at 14:01 and 15:41.

Uzi was able to predict Cyn's attack with accuracy twice through analysis of her movements. She also demonstrates that her ability to adapt is superior to Cyn's in her scenes. All of this is possible thanks to Uzi's combat skills, which are once again shown to be superior to Cyn herself.


Madness manipulation - memory manipulation - info type 1:

Basically, the Absolute Solver can inject information into Nori’s memories, which should make her go insane. After this, she started to write relativity formulas from her memories, including future events like the prediction of Disassembly Drones and the coming singularity with tentacles on Copper 9.

It should apply to Uzi (final key), as she merged with Cyn’s Absolute Solver.

Including limited resistance to madness manipulation — this is based on Khan’s statement. As we know, in further episodes, we can see that she is actually fine now, meaning that she is able to resist the information that the Solver injected into her.

Those characters who should have it:
  • Uzi (first key, she got her Absolute Solver through Nori’s Solver genes)
  • Likely Doll (should share similar resistance as Uzi due to having a similar Absolute Solver)


Self-perception amplification for all main cast:

13:53, 12:12, 14:40, 20:35, 8:34, 14:03, 14:40, 15:41, supported by the same comic.

This shows that drones have extreme perception during combat.

It should apply to:
  • Main hosts (Cyn, Doll, and Uzi)
  • Disassembly Drones (V, J, and N)


Regeneration negation (mid):

We saw in episode 7 a yellow symbol in Doll’s sensor. It can be seen that Cyn is blocking her access to regeneration at this moment. (It should be shared with Uzi’s final key for the same reason.)


Info analysis - Enhanced Vision:

adding enhanced sense and information analysis to host's with resistance.
Doll can't analyze Cyn information as it blocks data to her. So administrators can get information about their opponents with the Solver, but Cyn has resistance to that.

N and V’s visors shouldn’t have been able to detect Cyn and failed due to her holograms.

With a resistance: reminder that Disassembly Drones are minor hosts of the Solver, so they are still limited in some abilities compared to natural administrators. This should prove at least that administrators have the same vision as Disassembly Drones.


Projection creations:

Adding projection creations for Uzi: she should share the same ability as Doll, like projection creations. Same for Cyn.


Upgrade resistance to temperature manipulation:
Cyn survived while she was in the Earth's core, where the temperature is around 5500 °C. And Nori also survived being in the core of an Earthlike planet.

Resistance to power nullification for Cyn and Uzi:

The same goes for Cyn, as her solver wasn't affected by those magnitudes anyway.

Range upgrade for Doll:

Doll was able to teleport from Khan’s colony to the Cabin Fever Lab.

Distance shown here:


Calculation of the distance between Cabin Fever Lab and Khan’s colony.


Intelligence upgrades:

Gifted in general and combat:
Disassembly Drones are portrayed as gifted in combat, with N, J, and V particularly being shown to be versatile fighters capable of using a wide array of weapons proficiently through their interchangeable hands. And N was able to pilot the pod that travels at the speed of light, which should be considered a complex technology. Since N is shown to be the least intelligent member of the team, V and J should benefit from this feat. Plus J was also able to learn how to use a sword on the fly.

At least genius for J, (she was able to repair a pod on her own, which has technology advanced enough to be able to travel faster than light.)

Extraordinary Genius (Uzi): Uzi created a Magnetically Amplified Photon Converger while in high school, by collecting scraps of Disassembly Drones. She can be considered futuristic even in her own time, since we know that humans couldn’t really do anything against the Murder Drones. However, if they had weapons like Uzi’s, the fight on Earth wouldn’t have been so one-sided.

We also know that she created this advanced weapon entirely on her own, using only her own skills, because in episode 7 we can find the blueprints for it, and as we can see, those plans clearly belong to her. And the act of creating futuristic weapons or objects is considered extraordinary genius, not genius.

She has mastered most of the Solver within a few weeks, and from episode 2 onwards, even though she didn't yet have access to it, she was already able to understand how it worked. And the Absolute Solver is a futuristic program that can affect reality.

Another supporting point is that she has been able to hack Disassembly Drones’ data and stabilize their memory files. This should justify that Uzi can outsmart Cyn in programming, while Cyn herself is on a scale of extraordinary genius.


Review of their weaknesses:

What kills the robots isn’t the heat produced by the sun, but the sunlight itself. If it were the heat, it shouldn’t affect them, especially since Uzi and N have already survived atmospheric reentry. Otherwise, it would mean that the heat produced by the sun is enormous, but in that case, when Uzi was in space, the sun’s heat should at least have affected her, even if she wasn’t directly facing it, which is not the case.
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Unsure on Intelligence revisions, rest seems fine at a glance so I agree for now.
I forgot to mention that for the type of intelligence extraordinary genius, the creation of objects or weapons that are futuristic compared to its verse, is considered extraordinary genius by definition.

Genius: Individuals with an exceptional capacity for knowledge and intelligence, usually in one area of varying depth. This level of intellect is the level of real-world geniuses, polymaths, and genuinely extremely prominent intellectuals, and, in the absence of better feats, should be the default intelligence category for fictional characters with exceptional or superhuman intelligence.
Extraordinary Genius: Individuals whose knowledge spreads over multiple fields of science and who vastly surpass the real world's upper human limits. At this level, many are capable of creating extremely advanced futuristic technology, executing complex strategies even under high pressure, outperforming supercomputers,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Intelligence#cite_note-1"><span>[</span>Note 1<span>]</span></a> and even accurately predicting the future through sheer mental calculations. This is where super scientists of exceptional scientific knowledge begin to appear.

The definition of genius does not correspond at all to Uzi.
 
My only issue is that J was never shown to have succeeded. We only see her working on it she could have failed or succeeded, we don't actually see the thing fly
Cyn broke the spaceship because she trusted that J would fix it; otherwise, this wouldn’t explain Cyn’s actions. This is supported by the fact that she could have taught them how to use landing pods, especially J, who was the commander at the time.
 
I agree with everything except Doll's range, since the Crater from the Pilot Episode was retconned, and I highly doubt they would travel such a great distance to a camp.

Edit: And since it wasn't shown whether J succeeded in repairing the ship, I would prefer a "possibly Genius" ( J having genius-level intelligence is incredibly comical ).
 
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I agree with everything except Doll's range, since the Crater from the Pilot Episode was retconned, and I highly doubt they would travel such a great distance to a camp.
Not all things from pilot was retconned, for example: they still used the same explosion which we saw in plot episode+ I don't see any other condradications for other distancea between colonies.
 
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Not all things from pilot was retconned, for example: they still used the same explosion which we saw in plot episode+ I don't see any other condradications for other distancea between colonies.
Although they recycle the previous scene, the size of the crater shown afterward was altered, and this was accepted on the wiki to remove the original calculation of the Copper Nine explosion. And there's still the bus.
 
Although they recycle the previous scene, the size of the crater shown afterward was altered, and this was accepted on the wiki to remove the original calculation of the Copper Nine explosion. And there's still the bus.
Didn't it was talked about depth of the crater ? ( Tho I don't think should disprove a distances between Khan colony and cabin fever lab anyway tbh)
 
Although they recycle the previous scene, the size of the crater shown afterward was altered, and this was accepted on the wiki to remove the original calculation of the Copper Nine explosion. And there's still the bus.
The size of the explosion used is the ep 7 one. Also that was just the crater itself, not the total area affected.
 
My only issue is that J was never shown to have succeeded. We only see her working on it she could have failed or succeeded, we don't actually see the thing fly
Edit: And since it wasn't shown whether J succeeded in repairing the ship, I would prefer a "possibly Genius" ( J having genius-level intelligence is incredibly comical ).
While we don't see the landing pod fly, the fact that she managed to repair the landing pod which Cyn had completely crushed before should at least warrant pretty deep into the gifted tier.

But I still believe it makes more sense to assume the landing pod can fly as it fits with the narrative and what J's destiny is. She's to fly throughout the endless space alone for eternity as she chose to fight for the wrong side. There's also the fact that there is no reason why she cannot fix the landing pod as we know the verse in general is good with mechanical shit.

(Also it is comical for J to have genius-level intelligence... but so is the entire verse)
 
While we don't see the landing pod fly, the fact that she managed to repair the landing pod which Cyn had completely crushed before should at least warrant pretty deep into the gifted tier.

But I still believe it makes more sense to assume the landing pod can fly as it fits with the narrative and what J's destiny is. She's to fly throughout the endless space alone for eternity as she chose to fight for the wrong side. There's also the fact that there is no reason why she cannot fix the landing pod as we know the verse in general is good with mechanical shit.

(Also it is comical for J to have genius-level intelligence... but so is the entire verse)
Fair
 
But above all, since this is a calculated distance, as far as I know, a blog would have to be created for the evaluation or discussion of the calculation. And not use a calculation from Imgur without proper review.
 
But above all, since this is a calculated distance, as far as I know, a blog would have to be created for the evaluation or discussion of the calculation. And not use a calculation from Imgur without proper review.
It's a range feat. We do not need an exact number for this. The calculation is just to get an idea of the value. You could realistically not even include the calc and the range upgrade would be valid.
 
Okay, but that doesn't change the fact that the calculated distance is based on a crater with dimensions not accepted by the wiki.
It's not a crater though... The crater's size was changed from the entire area being affected to just the one we see Doll entering through. The area affected is from ep 7.
 
It's a range feat. We do not need an exact number for this. The calculation is just to get an idea of the value. You could realistically not even include the calc and the range upgrade would be valid.
The reason the distance is so long is the Pilot's Crater between Cabin Feaver and the Bunker. It is precisely its size that is being used as justification.
 
And another thing, don't Nori have a photo taken right after the explosion in Cabin Feaver? Why would they travel all that way to find shelter in another, extremely distant location?
 
And another thing, don't Nori have a photo taken right after the explosion in Cabin Feaver? Why would they travel all that way to find shelter in another, extremely distant location?
She doesn't want to tell anyone about absolute solver neither about coming singularity since she blamed herself for dragging Uzi into her problems. + So she just tried to prepare for the Cyn alone.
 
And another thing, don't Nori have a photo taken right after the explosion in Cabin Feaver? Why would they travel all that way to find shelter in another, extremely distant location?
The photo was taken at camp site 98, not cabin fever.
The reason the distance is so long is the Pilot's Crater between Cabin Feaver and the Bunker. It is precisely its size that is being used as justification.
I see what you mean

We can use ep 7 one instead
 
@OiEuSouDuvi Hey, so Ducker redid the calculation this time based on the explosion rather than the crater—which isn’t retconned—and I also added the study I used to support the 5500 °C temperature at the Earth’s core.
 
It's quite clear that the Drones can perceive each other in slow-motion fights, especially in the later episodes. But I don't know if that's truly an amplification of self-awareness. It's possible they already have that level of perception naturally, but it's only visible during fights.
 
Regardless of what this is, if accepted, it's good to update the justification for their speed. Something like "Much Higher Perception Speed, they are able to perceive themselves and faster characters in slow motion."
 
@OiEuSouDuvi Hey, so Ducker redid the calculation this time based on the explosion rather than the crater—which isn’t retconned—and I also added the study I used to support the 5500 °C temperature at the Earth’s core.
Okay, just letting you know that even with all that, I still disagree with the Range.

It still doesn't make sense for them to go to a camp so far away, or for Nori and the other drones to go so far to the other side of the Copper Nine explosion. Like, is there any proof that Cabin Feaver is that far from the Bunker? There's also the fact that the Bunker and Cabin Feaver were ejected in the explosion at the end of episode 7, which indicates that they aren't that far from each other.
 
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