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Firefly and SAM vs Frieza (Honkai: Star Rail vs Dragon Ball Z Toei)

Mbpoops said:
Idk why we’re bringing up vegeta opening moves in a frieza thread my bad i guess. Anyway dureneg death saucer + telekinesis like the second half of my message
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No, we can't change the topic yet, we have to bully you a little more for making that mistake. Dwell in your shame and humiliation.
 
Is Frieza able to telekinetically control Firefly and the death saucers at the same time? Just asking since he didn’t do it on Goku and just opted to spam 3 death saucers
 
Frieza has:
• AP advantage: 54.038 ZettaFoe > 30.453235 ZettaFoe (1.77x advantage for Frieza)
• LS advantage: Class P >>> Class G
• Way more exp fighting ppl on his lvl

Firefly has:
• More variety of Hax (but nothing that helps against Frieza)
• Better Range: Extradimensional > Interstellar

From what I see in Firefly’s profile, she has no resistance to DPB or Paralysis Inducement.

So yea, I’m going w/ Frieza
 
Crimson_cordx said:
Frieza has:
• AP advantage: 54.038 ZettaFoe > 30.453235 ZettaFoe (1.77x advantage for Frieza)
• LS advantage: Class P >>> Class G
• Way more exp fighting ppl on his lvl

Firefly has:
• More variety of Hax (but nothing that helps against Frieza)
• Better Range: Extradimensional > Interstellar

From what I see in Firefly’s profile, she has no resistance to DPB or Paralysis Inducement.

So yea, I’m going w/ Frieza
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What experience does mecha frieza even have, the only being he ever fought to be on his level was Goku, other then that he has no actual combat experience since he has always been far stronger then everyone else
 
KingOfDarknessBelow said:
What experience does mecha frieza even have, the only being he ever fought to be on his level was Goku, other then that he has no actual combat experience since he has always been far stronger then everyone else
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He did well vs Third Zenkai Vegeta, Piccolo (Fused w/ Nail), and Fourth Zenkai Vegeta
 
despite frieza having little battle experience he can fight toe to toe with vegeta, piccolo, goku, gohan, and krillin so honestly you could argue his experience is innate to him
 
Mbpoops said:
despite frieza having little battle experience he can fight toe to toe with vegeta, piccolo, goku, gohan, and krillin so honestly you could argue his experience is innate to him
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This is like 99% contributed to him stat shit stomping them tbf
 
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
What's this I'm hearing about a passive aura killing Frieza?
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Aura (Explosive; With SAM, Firefly can exude a sea of flames around her<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/F...er_—_Embers_in_a_Shell_|_Honkai:_Star_Rail-18"><span>[</span>18<span>]</span></a><a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Firefly_(Honkai:_Star_Rail)#cite_note-Whodunit-37"><span>[</span>37<span>]</span></a><a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Firefly_(Honkai:_Star_Rail)#cite_note-The_Devil_in_Velvet-38"><span>[</span>38<span>]</span></a>)


And characters resist like 15 millions C, if they get hurt by firefly then bruh
 
Crimson_cordx said:
Frieza tanked Namek’s explosion w/o a scratch, so 15M °C ain’t a problem
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Since when a planet explosion is hotter than the core of the sun

Edit: And the explosion did not even affect other planets near it and there was scraps of the planet, so yeah, not comparable to the core of the sun which would melt the planet entirely to nothing

Final edit: And literally Cooler dies thanks to the sun (ignoring metal cooler because only his eye was left), a stronger Frieza, so...
 
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Kazuma_kuwabara said:
Since when a planet explosion is hotter than the core of the sun
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Considering Namek GBE, and the fact that the explosion was strong enough to wipe out stars, yea, it's def hotter
Kazuma_kuwabara said:
Edit: And the explosion did not even affect other planets near it and there was scraps of the planet, so yeah, not comparable to the core of the sun which would melt the planet entirely to nothing
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I’ve got nothing to say on that — u should prob open a CRT to get the feat removed
Kazuma_kuwabara said:
Final edit: And literally Cooler dies thanks to the sun (ignoring metal cooler because only his eye was left), a stronger Frieza, so...
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This only upscales Mecha Frieza, since Cooler < him and Cooler still tanked the sun long enough to finish his monologue
 
So the cute mecha girl aura diffs? Wow

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Would YanKING be a fairer fight?
 
Crimson_cordx said:
Frieza tanked Namek’s explosion w/o a scratch, so 15M °C ain’t a problem
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Tbf you’d need a calc of the heat of this blast accepted to use on profiles and in this thread since cooler died on the surface of the sun (you’d prob use Luminosity + Stefan Boltzmann to derive the heat)

Crimson_cordx said:
I’ve got nothing to say on that — u should prob open a CRT to get the feat removed
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It doesn’t remove the feat entirely but supposedly far hotter than the core of the sun not reducing Namek’s remnants to plasma is a bad look on the Heat side of things
 
Jackof_noTrades068 said:
Tbf you’d need a calc of the heat of this blast accepted to use on profiles and in this thread since cooler died on the surface of the sun (you’d prob use Luminosity + Stefan Boltzmann to derive the heat)
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Eh, I’m not doing that. And why act like Cooler got one-shot? He was thrown into the sun and still survived long enough to finish his monologue. And this version of Cooler is like 10x weaker than Mecha Frieza anyway
Jackof_noTrades068 said:
It doesn’t remove the feat entirely but supposedly far hotter than the core of the sun not reducing Namek’s remnants to plasma is a bad look on the Heat side of things
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Eh, Toei Bardock surviving Planet Vegeta blowing up still a good feat

Anyway based on how Mecha Frieza fights, he'd just toss a Supernova at Firefly, and w/ that big AP gap, it’s a straight-up one-shot. Firefly legit has nothing that can really hurt or one-shot Frieza
 
Crimson_cordx said:
He was thrown into the sun and still survived long enough to finish his monologue
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Cause he wasn’t confirmed to have reached the core.
The difference between the surface (5000C) and the core (15 million) is like 3 orders of magnitude heat wise.
Crimson_cordx said:
Anyway based on how Mecha Frieza fights, he'd just toss a Supernova at Firefly, and w/ that big AP gap, it’s a straight-up one-shot. Firefly legit has nothing that can really hurt or one-shot Frieza
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Cant she just fly around it to dodge it? Iirc, characters mainly got hit by Supernova cause they didn’t wanna let Earth be blown up. But firefly can survive in space.
 
Jackof_noTrades068 said:
Bardock’s much weaker than First Form Frieza. So the supernova would’ve also been faster than Bardock? Which led to him not dodging it. No?
Cause this thread is speed equal so that stats chasm wouldn’t exist
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Just like Firefly being weaker than Frieza? It’s almost a 2x gap; she’d damage him about as much as Third Zenkai Vegeta did to 2nd Form Frieza.
 
Anyway, I’ll be voting for Firefly via Heat Meta and Frieza is not going to take her 100% seriously off rip kinda like how King Cold and himself downplayed Trunks. While Firefly would fight to kill from the start of the encounter.
So Firefly chars him before he busts out any of his bigger moves like Supernova.
 
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