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Hazbin Hotel Discussion Thread

Octavia right before soloing almost everyone in the Hotel:
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"Heh, What's some 17 year old gonna to do?" - W!Alastor before he and the hotel staff get vaporized (He and the sinners'll regen later)
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Hmm. There seems to be a certain threshold for upscaling that's 1.25x but, from what i've heard there's no hard rule on it and characters, like Gojo and sukuna, have been upscale to large town+ with a 1.4377x difference, so I propose a "High 8-C with Magic" for stolas
Id personally prefer "Likely High 8-C" but i honestly don't really care much either way.
 
W Scaling or W Larps?

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I'd say mostly accurate, though Rosie is currently a walking "?" we have no clue who or what she actually is, so her place could go either way, and whether or not Vox and Lute's placement are accurate to you depends on if you think Exorcists are above Shok.wav or not.
 
W Scaling or W Larps?

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I think its W scaling, FP Vox was beginning to lose to the guy who he was factually stronger than, Rosie only has JUST enough to be a top overlord like Vox, Carmine, and Zestial, but the methods of HOW she gave AL power aren't enough to say she's outright stronger, and AL would eventually give in and get an angelic weapon, prolly by taking it from Lute, he was doing it against regular exorcists.

I think Adam was special because he was an Archangel, so thats (one of) the reason(s) why he didn't use any AW on him, but Lute ain't allat, so she loses too
 
I'd say mostly accurate, though Rosie is currently a walking "?" we have no clue who or what she actually is, so her place could go either way, and whether or not Vox and Lute's placement are accurate to you depends on if you think Exorcists are above Shok.wav or not.
literally they have no reason to scale, they were struggling against sinners and at best get a consistency in 9-A to 8-C, Shock.wav is himothy (and also in the wise words of Hakita, "take that as angels ain't shi")
 
I'd say mostly accurate, though Rosie is currently a walking "?" we have no clue who or what she actually is, so her place could go either way, and whether or not Vox and Lute's placement are accurate to you depends on if you think Exorcists are above Shok.wav or not.
That one old statement saying that she never died:
 
literally they have no reason to scale, they were struggling against sinners and at best get a consistency in 9-A to 8-C, Shock.wav is himothy (and also in the wise words of Hakita, "take that as angels ain't shi")
TBF those sinners had literal anti-Exorcist weapons, otherwise they'd be fodder just like every other victim of the Extermination.
And yes Shok.wav is him.
 
literally they have no reason to scale, they were struggling against sinners and at best get a consistency in 9-A to 8-C, Shock.wav is himothy (and also in the wise words of Hakita, "take that as angels ain't shi")
Depends on how you put it. You'd struggle against someone, even if you scale against him, but they simply have better combat skills and weapons that can indeed one-shot you.
 
Depends on how you put it. You'd struggle against someone, even if you scale against him, but they simply have better combat skills and weapons that can indeed one-shot you.
Unless you want to argue that AW's have an aura that magically weakens only angels by being near them, then by that logic, Angel couldn't have struggled against an exorcist at all, I'm not a hater of them being stronger than average demons, but they have too many anti-feats to be Himothy.wav level
 
Unless you want to argue that AW's have an aura that magically weakens only angels by being near them, then by that logic, Angel couldn't have struggled against an exorcist at all, I'm not a hater of them being stronger than average demons, but they have too many anti-feats to be Himothy.wav level
I never said that? I only mentioned that if you have a weapon that legit one-shots people, and are arguably a better fighter than them, you'd obviously kill most of them. What we actually see in the extermination is different, as there was more dead cannibals than there was dead exorcists, not to mention how the cast (who all survived, besides Pentious) were using ranged weapons, while exorcists use spears.
 
I never said that? I only mentioned that if you have a weapon that legit one-shots people, and are arguably a better fighter than them, you'd obviously kill most of them. What we actually see in the extermination is different, as there was more dead cannibals than there was dead exorcists, not to mention how the cast (who all survived, besides Pentious) were using ranged weapons, while exorcists use spears.
Deadly mentioned that scene of Angel Dust blocking an Exorcist's strike, which is an anti-feat for the Exorcists
 
I never said that? I only mentioned that if you have a weapon that legit one-shots people, and are arguably a better fighter than them, you'd obviously kill most of them. What we actually see in the extermination is different, as there was more dead cannibals than there was dead exorcists, not to mention how the cast (who all survived, besides Pentious) were using ranged weapons, while exorcists use spears.
Angel. literally. blocked an attack. FROM AN EXORCIST.

Skill had nothing to do with that, once again, in raw strength they can be "at least 9-A" all you want and I'm fine with that, but the og thing I answered had to do with whether they can scale to Goat.wav, and to be blunt, if they could, then Angel's arms would have shattered trying to parry.

Once again, skill doesn't protect your arms from being crushed by someone doezens times your own dura
 
Exorcists are probably just really durable and have Angelic weapons, which is how they were able to do the exterminations so easily (though, how they didn't know Angelic weapons could hurt themselves is beyond me. Lute literally hurts Vaggie with one)
 
Exorcists are probably just really durable and have Angelic weapons, which is how they were able to do the exterminations so easily (though, how they didn't know Angelic weapons could hurt themselves is beyond me. Lute literally hurts Vaggie with one)
Hurt or kill? Cause there's a difference. Plus Lute ripping off Vaggie's wings with her bare hands and them not healing for 3 whole year could lead one to believe that Angels just have the natural ability to hurt sinners and eachother, rather than due to their weapons
 
Deadly mentioned that scene of Angel Dust blocking an Exorcist's strike, which is an anti-feat for the Exorcists
Angel. literally. blocked an attack. FROM AN EXORCIST.
He didn't block it with his hands, he legit did that with his angelic gun.
Lute literally hurts Vaggie with one)
Lute also tore her wings without one. She probably assumed it was her being an Angel that led to that.
Skill had nothing to do with that, once again, in raw strength they can be "at least 9-A" all you want and I'm fine with that, but the og thing I answered had to do with whether they can scale to Goat.wav, and to be blunt, if they could, then Angel's arms would have shattered trying to parry.
What? What kind of difference do you think is between an exorcist and a sinner in power? Clearly not to the point where they would one-shot them.
 
He didn't block it with his hands, he legit did that with his angelic gun.
Doesn't matter? Like I said, unless you're arguing for a weakening aura, then Angel would be over 1,473 TIMES WEAKER, so his attempt at blocking would literally kill him as, last I checked, thats a helluva lot above the 8x one shot multiplier
Lute also tore her wings without one. She probably assumed it was her being an Angel that led to that.

What? What kind of difference do you think is between an exorcist and a sinner in power? Clearly not to the point where they would one-shot them.
Yea, I know, thank you for agreeing with me
 
Could be, especially given the fact that Lucifer can kill other angels without AWs
We literally acknowledge and have the fact Angel can permanently kill each others accepted already.
Doesn't matter? Like I said, unless you're arguing for a weakening aura, then Angel would be over 1,473 TIMES WEAKER, so his attempt at blocking would literally kill him as, last I checked, thats a helluva lot above the 8x one shot multiplier
There's like many instances of that happening in medias that I doubt this instance would be accepted as an anti-feat. Not to mention how potent Angelic materials are that they would absorb most of the energy.
Yea, I know, thank you for agreeing with me
I disagree pretty much with how we handle the physical differences between all character.
 
There's like many instances of that happening in medias that I doubt this instance would be accepted as an anti-feat. Not to mention how potent Angelic materials are that they would absorb most of the energy.
When was it accepted that AW's had absorption? On their own they don't and thats just not a very good argument for them getting anything more than an "at least" modifier
 
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