I'm wondering abt this in a different context so ignore the original quoted message, but could this be an additional 4-C feat for base characters? (Top right you can see a sun in the BG)
Maybe. But then again I don't see how the Doom Zone can be anything lower than Low 2-C even before Black Doom corrupts White Space.
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Is there any evidence towards it being at least low 2-C before White Space gets taken over? /genq
I think PC should be 1-C, so that's even funnier, assuming he's not also a toy.
If only we didn't have 10+ people who will naysay and call it outliers or make up reasons for certain scaling.
But yeah Perfect Chaos in Rumble is more than likely a toy, they were just not wanting to make a toy model for him
KInda wild to scale him lower than than the output of one singular Chaos Emerald in Unleashed, but ok.
That's bc this site goes by Sonic's Earth being larger than our own. Like I don't disagree w/ it and the evidence is solid, but just to be safe I assume Sonic's Earth is just normal sized.
Even if so, a single Emerald would still be 5-A.
I read issue #86 and
I actually liked it. Oh thank god it wasn't just the Belle validation show. Sage didn't do that much which is still unfortunate but she felt so much more like herself this issue compared to issue #85, enough so that I will let it slide. Additionally I like that she was...what was the word I used again for describing Sage. Ah right reserved in expressing that she might be interested in talking with Belle in the future and didn't immediately worship the ground Belle walks on just because Belle played a part in rescuing her. And for that matter she also wasn't some useless and terrified hostage who only existed to be bailed out by her older sister.
Sorry if that section sounded a touch passive aggressive it's just that issue #85 was such a stinker that I am suprised that issue #86 didn't do what I was dreading it would. And while I'm still not crazy about Sage potentially being turbo nerfed if she only loses her abilities when disconnected from the EggNet (this issue does imply that being connected to the EggNet gives her more abilities, in this case healing off the corruption from the mystery villain) I actually would like that limitation. And even if it turns out that she's weakened all the time, fine whatever I'll tolerate it as long as she's written like she is in issue #84 and #86 and is given things to do even if I'm not sure how she'd be able challenge the main cast in ways Eggman couldn't already.
I should probably read the last three issues again but before I do here's my opinion of all of them.
Issue #84: It's alright. Good even, it doesn't blow me away but I like it fine enough.
Issue #85: Actual sewage that made me more acutely aware that I have specific writing pet-peeves. It's probably one of my least favorite issues of the whole comic to be honest.
Issue #86: I like it and it redeems this mini-arc. I'm now looking forward to issue #87 and I won't hate seeing where Belle and Sage's relationship goes in the future.
So typical IDW Sonic fare?
Was there not much lore in this one? Or was it just them gushing over Chao while subtly begging Sega to bring back Chao Gardens?
Yup
I am LMAO, but I think calling IDW mid is a fair assessment.
I agree with this. I wish it could do more.
Do we know how much of that is between corporate meddling and a shortage of creativity by the writers?
Your next CTR is gonna look like this:All of our life savings.
Agreed
Not to any real extent, unfortunately.
I don't think is wrong for them to try this out, Shadow is literraly one of the most prominent characters in the whole canon (reference).
They've hardly had issues with writing how his abilities work in the games, why is it so alien in the comics? The game follows a narrative, so narratively it would be balanced by that. Shadow is strong, but, like, so is Sonic and Silver and Knuckles and more.
I'm pretty sure stuff like the lack of humans and keeping game references vague are a corporate issue, at the very least.
Yeah, I really think IDW writers have their own version of who Sonic is. And Sonic Team doesnt care to fact check unless its Shadow.
Ngl I wouldn't call him a Gary Stu. Sonic is very much affected by stuff, struggles, and occasionally even loses. But his struggles moreso comes in the physical struggle rather than something he needs to change himself for to overcome. Which fits perfectly for who he is, being a static character who has always been true to himself
As we know of, there's no direct source. The best we know is that it might've originated from Sonic Retro which is somewhat reliable
Even physical struggles are not that common. He doesnt get affected by Dark Gaia and Time Eater. His recent WAKUWAKU manga stunts. Cyber Corruption I did kinda neglect but even then he escaped Cyberspace that others couldnt. Ig he drawed to Shadow and lost to Silver in 06 so theres that.
He does get affected by Dark Gaia in terms of being forced into the Werehog, something he's pretty insecure about and is forced into a slower speed. Plus the point was that mentally he was completely unbothered because of the strength of his heart. Time Eater, he was unaffected by the erasure and could restore space-time but characters like Shadow and Omega were also unaffected by Time Eater's erasure. Plus Sonic got knocked out by the Time Eater right at the start, failing to save his friends from getting flung through time.
As a warning, I recommend not using anything from Sonic Retro as the basis if the only source is an old screenshot. For a time, there was a user who was actively making alterations to files and pages on Sonic Retro with the sole purpose of making up sources for feats. This included altering interviews, translations, and even whole files with false information (Some of the alterations can still be found in a few files and pages).
Damn, you were mostly right.
Everything in Rumble is a toy so no scaling for anyone.
Welcome back. And yeah I guess I was right. Surprisingly I didn't hate issue #86 even though you're correct that my worries came to fruition to some extent. Execution is everything I suppose
Tbh slander usually implies something that was originally great but eventually fell off but IDW Sonic was always mediocre at best, we all know the story; it peaked a little too early with the Metal Virus saga and is now hard carried by the artwork and a few interpersonal stories/relationships with the IDW original characters (while the legacy characters are largely static with super tier, Sega approved plot armour) yet most plot points usually end up as nothing burgers with the rare outlier (e.g Scrapnik Island).
Aside from what was already mentioned, very early in the IDW Sonic run, Ian Flynn had Sonic overtly mention team Hooligans in #3 to test the waters and ST immediately told him "stop" with Ian having to retroactively say on Twitter that it was just a fun "easter egg" and nothing more.
