GENSHIN IMPACT WILL GET EVEN STRONGER (Grace)

[Furina003]

Ignore the title, here I will just add some abilities for Columbina and Hilichurl

COLUMBINA

Spoiler

Resistence Time Stop
Like the traveler, Columbina was able to survive the time stop performed by Dottore.

Immortality Type 8 & Astral Projection
It is explained that the Moon Sisters cannot Life without their Moons, meaning their lives are entirely dependent on the existence of those moons. In other words, there is a very strong bond between a Moon Sister and her moon, each directly determines the other’s continuation.
The Frozen Moon Sister actually still had the possibility to be revived in Teyvat because her moon was not completely destroyed. However, she chose to pass her divinity on to Columbina and die alongside her two sisters. This decision further emphasizes the strength of the connection between the Moon Sisters and the moons they represent.
A similar case can be seen with Columbina. She deliberately ended her own life to escape the “moon gate.” However, when her moon was restored to Teyvat, Columbina was able to be revived. This shows that the existence of the moon is the determining factor in the life and death of the Moon Sisters. Columbina can also separate her soul which is the anchor of her life in the past and future.

Limited Time Travel (With Moon Gate)
Through the Moon Gate, Columbina is able to travel to Teyvat’s past and directly interact with events in that time. She also possesses the ability to move freely within the “space-time prison,” a dimension where each step taken represents a different point in time.
This is explained by Rerir, who states that Columbina is the only entity capable of moving freely within this space. This limitation is also the reason why Rerir and Tholindis cannot meet, even though their positions appear to be close. Rerir exists in the future, while Tholindis exists in the past, making it temporally impossible for them to interact.
In contrast, Columbina is not bound by these restrictions. She can continue moving through within that realm, eventually allowing her to meet her three sisters in the past.

Matter Manipulation
High-level kuuhvaki energy is capable of reconstructing matter down to the subatomic level.

HILICHURL

Spoiler

Adaptation
hilichurls can adapt to extreme environments

Biological Manipulation
Getting hit by a Hilichurl Arrow can caused heal very slowly, as the cold will slow the circulation of blood.

Acausality type 2
Hilichurls were originally humans who were cursed by Ronova, This Ronova curse seeps into the body and becomes a part of anyone who is affected by the curse. Over time, they have completely lost their original human identity, as their current existence is entirely shaped by that curse. From this, it can be concluded that present-day hilichurls are fundamentally different from their past selves, both in terms of existence and identity.
Aside from that, a certain study explains, would appear that hilichurls have neither a past nor a future, and only exist in the present. Based on this standard, such a condition suggests that hilichurls should qualify for Acausality Type 2.

STAFF VOTE
Agree : @TWILIGHT-OP (with the rest) @Random-Helper323 (With the rest)

Disagree : @TWILIGHT-OP ( Biological Manipulation & acausality) @Random-Helper323 (Biological Manipulation & acausality)

Neutral :

 

[MSahla]

Resistence Time Stop
Like the traveler, Columbina was able to survive the time stop performed by Dottore.

Like i don't think this is a resistance since Dottore's time stop is basically Columbina's time stop because again that's basically her own power. But, whatever the staff decide ig.

Biological Manipulation
Getting hit by a Hilichurl Arrow can caused heal very slowly, as the cold will slow the circulation of blood.

This is only for Cryo Hilichurl shooter.

Rest should be fine.

 

[Furina003]

Like i don't think this is a resistance since Dottore's time stop is basically Columbina's time stop because again that's basically her own power. But, whatever the staff decide ig.

yeah i will also wait for the staff, because it seems like this is better displayed on the profile

This is only for Cryo Hilichurl shooter.

Atleast we can added this to hilichurl profile

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Biological Manipulation
Getting hit by a Hilichurl Arrow can caused heal very slowly, as the cold will slow the circulation of blood.

Aside from this rest seems fine at glance.

It is said that wounds caused by these arrowheads heal very slowly, as the cold will slow the circulation of blood.

It's the effect of the cold that's slowing down the healing process and not literally biological manipulation.

 

[Furina003]

Aside from this rest seems fine at glance.

It's the effect of the cold that's slowing down the healing process and not literally biological manipulation.

Okay, I won't comment further since this is the only Feat I found. But I'll wait for input from other staff.
Thanks in advance

 

[MSahla]

Okay, I won't comment further since this is the only Feat I found. But I'll wait for input from other staff.
Thanks in advance

You should put his vote like

Agree: with the rest
Disagree: biological manip

 

[MSahla]

Also, Soul Projection? Is it just Soul Manip?

 

[Furina003]

Also, Soul Projection? Is it just Soul Manip?

She separated her own soul, it was a soul projection

Astral Projection is the ability to separate one's spirit/soul from one's body.

I was going to change it to astral projection, then what I thought I wrote it as soul projection

 

[MSahla]

Alr so that's just Astral Projection. Just type it as such bru, you making me confuse.

 

[Natsuki012]

agree

 

[MSahla]

Likely Acausality type 2

This should not be “Likely” but legit one. The statement regarding them having no concept of either past and the future and only exist in the present should be blatant enough.

It would appear that the hilichurls possess no concept of either the past or future, living only in the present. They do not intentionally store up food for survival, nor do they commemorate their deceased forebears. Though crude attempts at something like calligraphy have been widely observed within their camps, closer inspection reveals these markings to be nothing more than botched imitations of what they have seen in ancient ruins, possessing no originality whatsoever.

 

[Furina003]

Aside from this rest seems fine at glance.

It's the effect of the cold that's slowing down the healing process and not literally biological manipulation.

This should not be “Likely” but legit one. The statement regarding them having no concept of either past and the future and only exist in the present should be blatant enough.

what do you think about this? i could have modified it to "legit", but you already gave your opinion, so i want to see what you think again about this?

 

[Lort15]

Ignore the title, here I will just add some abilities for Columbina and Hilichurl

COLUMBINA
Resistence Time Stop
Like the traveler, Columbina was able to survive the time stop performed by Dottore.

obvious, from a first glance however i've heard arguments about Dottore's timestop being Columbina's timestop, that's a weird scenario but eh i'm not sure could someone explain the exact situation? was it absorbed or something?

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the rest i agree with Twilight

 

[MSahla]

obvious, from a first glance however i've heard arguments about Dottore's timestop being Columbina's timestop, that's a weird scenario but eh i'm not sure could someone explain the exact situation? was it absorbed or something?

Shortly, Dottore stole the power of the Three Moons, which is basically Columbina's power herself because she's the Trilune Goddess possessing the Tri-Lunar Authority. And no, it wasn't like Absorbed.

 

[MSahla]

Well, granted, at that time she wasn't the Trilune Goddess yet because she's weakened. But her possessing the Trilunar Authority is something that would happen and already been planned by herself.

 

[AsterReal]

It looks good.

 

[LoudestProcedure]

Looks fine

 

[AyOgUyS]

Looks alr

 

[Xdsagecat]

Hilichurls having type 2 acausality? Even after reading your explanation it still doesn't make sense

 

[MSahla]

Hilichurls having type 2 acausality? Even after reading your explanation it still doesn't make sense

I mean..
This is the most blatant Acausality type 2 ever in Genshin.

It would appear that the hilichurls possess no concept of either the past or future, living only in the present. They do not intentionally store up food for survival, nor do they commemorate their deceased forebears. Though crude attempts at something like calligraphy have been widely observed within their camps, closer inspection reveals these markings to be nothing more than botched imitations of what they have seen in ancient ruins, possessing no originality whatsoever.

 

[Furina003]

Hilichurls having type 2 acausality? Even after reading your explanation it still doesn't make sense

No problem, if that doesn't make sense to you, I'll wait for input from the staff.

 

[Eseseso]

Acausality type 2
Hilichurls were originally humans who were cursed by Ronova, This Ronova curse seeps into the body and becomes a part of anyone who is affected by the curse. Over time, they have completely lost their original human identity, as their current existence is entirely shaped by that curse. From this, it can be concluded that present-day hilichurls are fundamentally different from their past selves, both in terms of existence and identity.
Aside from that, a certain study explains, would appear that hilichurls have neither a past nor a future, and only exist in the present. Based on this standard, such a condition suggests that hilichurls should qualify for Acausality Type 2.
[/SPOILER]

HARD disagree with this. I looked at the scan claiming they have no past or future, and what it actually says is that they have no concept of the past or future, so they always "live in the present", aka only focus on the present moment.

Don't know about the rest, though.

 

[Furina003]

HARD disagree with this. I looked at the scan claiming they have no past or future, and what it actually says is that they have no concept of the past or future, so they always "live in the present", aka only focus on the present moment.

Don't know about the rest, though.

Their past was human, but due to the Ronova curse, they were transformed into a different existence and identity.

This is similar to the case of Scaramouce being reincarnated as a wanderer, where the wanderer is a different existence and identity, thus losing his past.

So, that's what I think, hilichurls are said to have no concept of past and future. Anyway, I'll wait for the staff's input.

 

[MSahla]

HARD disagree with this. I looked at the scan claiming they have no past or future, and what it actually says is that they have no concept of the past or future, so they always "live in the present", aka only focus on the present moment.

Don't know about the rest, though.

I don't think so. The context is that they only existing at the present.
Even the original language says so:

丘丘人似乎没有「过去」与「未来」的概念，而是仅仅生存在「当下」
Hilichurls seem to lack the concepts of "past" and "future," existing solely in the "present."

 

[Bossbrosish]

I don't think so. The context is that they only existing at the present.
Even the original language says so:

Their past was human, but due to the Ronova curse, they were transformed into a different existence and identity.

This is similar to the case of Scaramouce being reincarnated as a wanderer, where the wanderer is a different existence and identity, thus losing his past.

So, that's what I think, hilichurls are said to have no concept of past and future. Anyway, I'll wait for the staff's input.

I have to disagree with this as well. It's clearly saying that they don't think about the past or the future and just "live in the moment" in a sense, that's why the word concept is used here. They're completely primitive. In order to actually qualify for Type 2 they would have to not exist in the past or the future at all, yet they do exist in the past as they were human.

I also think using wanderer is bad comparison, since he erased his past self and then regained those memories to become Wanderer.

I agree with everything else though.

 

[Furina003]

I have to disagree with this as well. It's clearly saying that they don't think about the past or the future and just "live in the moment" in a sense, that's why the word concept is used here. They're completely primitive. In order to actually qualify for Type 2 they would have to not exist in the past or the future at all, yet they do exist in the past as they were human.

I also think using wanderer is bad comparison, since he erased his past self and then regained those memories to become Wanderer.

I agree with everything else though.

okay, no problem, I've already said what I think, so I'll wait for the staff about this

 

[Random-Helper323]

I think I agree with Twilight; this all looks okay except the biological manipulation.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

HARD disagree with this. I looked at the scan claiming they have no past or future, and what it actually says is that they have no concept of the past or future, so they always "live in the present", aka only focus on the present moment.

Don't know about the rest, though.

That does seem plausible. While I also can't really ignore what Mandarin says here. If someone get it translated that would be great help.

丘丘人似乎没有「过去」与「未来」的概念，而是仅仅生存在「当下」
Hilichurls seem to lack the concepts of "past" and "future," existing solely in the "present."

@Sahlwrld would you mind getting full Quote translated?

 

[Furina003]

That does seem plausible. While I also can't really ignore what Mandarin says here. If someone get it translated that would be great help.

@Sahlwrld would you mind getting full Quote translated?

丘丘人似乎没有「过去」与「未来」的概念，而是仅仅生存在「当下」。它们不会有意识地为日后的生存专门储存余粮，也不会纪念逝去的先辈。尽管丘丘人的部落营地中不乏涂鸦，但多经考察便能很容易得出结论：那只是对古老遗迹的拙劣模仿和重复，并无创造性可言。一些丘丘人部落会在古老的遗迹中扎营，似乎它们天生对这些古老的遗物有某种无法解释的亲和力。但我们目前掌握的证据还无法证明它们与那些失落的古代文明究竟有何联系。

Hilichurls seem to lack any concept of the “past” and the “future,” existing only in the “present.” They do not consciously store surplus food for future survival, nor do they commemorate their deceased ancestors. Although graffiti can often be found in Hilichurl camps, closer examination easily leads to the conclusion that these are merely crude imitations and repetitions of ancient ruins, lacking any real creativity.
Some Hilichurl tribes set up camp within ancient ruins, as if they possess an innate affinity for these relics of the past. However, the evidence we currently have is still insufficient to determine what connection, if any, they have with those lost ancient civilizations.

This might help.
Honestly, I also don’t mind if this is only given a possibility/likely rating.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

This might help.
Honestly, I also don’t mind if this is only given a possibility/likely rating.

Yeah, I think they mean it as not placing importance on the past or future and simply living in the present, not that they literally lack a past or future. So I’d have to disagree with Type 2 here as well.

 

[Furina003]

Yeah, I think they mean it as not placing importance on the past or future and simply living in the present, not that they literally lack a past or future. So I’d have to disagree with Type 2 here as well.

okay fine, let's just say this is rejected, I also don't have any further evidence to support this

 

[Furina003]

Yeah, I think they mean it as not placing importance on the past or future and simply living in the present, not that they literally lack a past or future. So I’d have to disagree with Type 2 here as well.

By the way, are 2 staff vote enough? considering this only adds a few abilities for columbina, or should we wait for another staff?

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

By the way, are 2 staff vote enough? considering this only adds a few abilities for columbina, or should we wait for another staff?

2 is enuf.

 

[MSahla]

This can be applied now. Wait, i'll apply from my thread first.