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It's 11-point Arial haha
It's certainly mine
there are going to be so many profiles made for it, too-
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The Revenant Marvel Comics Discussion Thread
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It’s so peak
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Realistic Hulk vs Superman
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Here's a preview of one of the many in-progress docs that are part of the project. Note that many of the tiers (specifically Low 1-A and 1-A) are currently in flux pending my planned Skyfather revisions. If any of you have insight on the feats or fights currently categorized as "Unknown," feel free to let me know so I can update their tiering accordingly.
Base Thor, Unworthy Thor, and God of Hammers Thor are all done in terms of scans.
Base Thor, Unworthy Thor, and God of Hammers Thor are all done in terms of scans.
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Looks great. Base Thor being close to Odin's level at peak really is insanely consistent. I didn't know there were that many feats to support it. I would like to mention though that all of the feats from the "Blood and Thunder" arc aren't actually Warrior's Madness iirc. Sif thought it was, but then Odin later said it wasn't.
I have one question. You listed a feat against Nefaria as being 1-A due to Nefaria being compared to the Destroyer in strength. Do you think that Nefaria should be one of the 1-A Heralds, alongside the likes of Thanos and Sentry?
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Good catch about Blood and Thunder! Can't believe I missed that.
For Nefaria I'm fifty fifty. Thor outright compares his strength to the Destroyer when he's first introduced, but then oneshots him in a 2000s comic. I'm not sure if the context of that later issue has Nefaria as weakened. If it does, then he'd solidly be Tier 1 at normal levels.
And yeah, base Thor fighting seriously is absurd haha. Very solidly Skyfather level with very few antifeats in that tier or higher.
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Hardly fair, calling this effortlessly is not true Thor got hurt and fight makes it clear that Mjolnir is the real problem so much so that as soon as Captain Marvel takes Mjolnir away she manages to knock him out.
Hardly counts as giving Carol and She hulk touble, She-hulk does seem to be getting some problems but at that point she was alone in the middle of many of them, none of them seem to really be hurt, and it doesn't seem to be hard for them to defeat them individually, seems more that they were annoyed at them being so many not really "trouble"
You put this under 9-A, no, sentries are very not 9-A they scale even to the thing
It's specially funny because you put those feats at 9-A but a Kree soldier feat at 8-C, well Kree soldiers are now 9-A because of the 8-C downgrade.
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Maybe something like "At least High 3-A, possibly 1-A"
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depends on the personality
Yup. Superman is a saint, and the Hulk (when handled properly) is a severely wounded child, not the demonic force of hatred and destruction that many writers have twisted him into.
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Yes, but I am referring to the oldschool Hulk. Then various writers turned him into a villain played as a hero instead, which doesn't sit right with me. Demonic forces of pointless hatred and destruction should not be presented as aspirational.
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I'll have to make some adjustments to that! I wasn't aware that Kree Sentries were that strong
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That's good to know. I'm using docs for now while I'm compiling everything, and then once I have it organized I'll copy it into a blog post and break it down further.You should not link to Google docs, as they can leak private information from those who click on the links.
Please use a wiki sandbox or blog post instead.
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That could work! The only potential Nefaria appearances I've read are the ones with Thor in them, so I'm not sure if he has any notable antifeats.
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Count Nefaria?
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Strongly agreed, if writers want to make him evil just make another persona like devil hulk or kluh or titan hulk, childlike hulk(the main one) should always be well childlikeYup. Superman is a saint, and the Hulk (when handled properly) is a severely wounded child, not the demonic force of hatred and destruction that many writers have twisted him into.
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The very same
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Nah. He isn't up to Skyfather level.
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I was wondering. Do you know what other showings he has? The only two I have are a) Thor being shocked by his power and comparing him to the Destroyer and b) getting easily oneshot by Thor some forty years later.
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Captain Marvel of the House of El lol
(Might just be a coincidence)
(Might just be a coincidence)
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I might do some more digging into Nefaria later to see if he merits an upgrade or was just super strong in his first appearance and then gets washed. It'll probably be pretty low on the scaling priority list, though
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I think it’s more so that their lazy and based it on her human name then it is that they based it on supermanCaptain Marvel of the House of El lol
(Might just be a coincidence)
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I'm (slowly) doing an Avengers read-through so I can look at his scaling
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Sweet! I bet you'll get a ton of good stuff from that.
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I don't think iv ever seen such a large gap between an "at least" and "possibly" before lmao
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I think the moral of the story is that Nefaria will likely end up as incredibly unstable no matter what we do lol
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My intended point was that the Hulk has been corrupted to such an extreme degree over the years that he has essentially turned into a "Villain Sue" power trip, an inherently conceptually horrible character, and that the childlike Hulk was a much better character.
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The writer finally came back to his senses
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Superman/Spiderman crossover has the hulk/Superman has "side story"
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Oh cool, I'll read that soon. I'm thinking of maybe making Crossover Earth profiles.
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For safety reasons, we have rules against scaling them to any feats outside of the crossovers themselves.
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I know. I mean making profiles for the versions of the characters who are from Crossover Earth, which is a universe in both Multiverses that has its own history that includes characters from both DC/Marvel. It's where most of the crossovers take place. Characters here have their own feats to scale from. Their scaling would be completely independent of normal, non-crossover, stories.For safety reasons, we have rules against scaling them to any feats outside of the crossovers themselves.
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Safety reasons?
For safety reasons, we have rules against scaling them to any feats outside of the crossovers themselves.
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Unreliability and inconsistencies between separate continuities.
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Crossovers
A crossover is the placement of two or more characters originating from different continuities/franchises/verses into a single story. Non-canon crossovers do not officially take place within any of the involved continuities. Examples may include Marvel Vs Capcom, Mortal Kombat Vs DC Universe, or...
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Ah, gotcha. When you said "safety" I thought you were referring to someone getting angry and making threats about crossover profiles.Unreliability and inconsistencies between separate continuities.
Crossovers
A crossover is the placement of two or more characters originating from different continuities/franchises/verses into a single story. Non-canon crossovers do not officially take place within any of the involved continuities. Examples may include Marvel Vs Capcom, Mortal Kombat Vs DC Universe, or...
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somewhat related but since he's getting a third mini I might as well ask if modern Marvel Godzilla got a profile how would we deal with the author statements saying the minis take place in the main 616 universe despite contradicting the main canon multiple times?Unreliability and inconsistencies between separate continuities.
Crossovers
A crossover is the placement of two or more characters originating from different continuities/franchises/verses into a single story. Non-canon crossovers do not officially take place within any of the involved continuities. Examples may include Marvel Vs Capcom, Mortal Kombat Vs DC Universe, or...
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