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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread

yoh i can't reply directly again so ill ping @Mbpoops theres no way you out of all ppl are telling anyone if they play the game...

the 3.7 patch was talking about fuli and it's merely retrocausality. mind you, this is against nova's point considering it illustrates a a simultaneous existence across multiple temporal, probably spatial too, positions.

the 3.8 vid u showed alludes to nothing. i just said that the 2nd ascension means there had to be one initially too before his fragmentation. not that it's some sort of samsara universal loop because we vibe with it and loretubers said so.
 
Nighting4l33yes said:
simultaneous existence across multiple temporal
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This isn’t true at all, by the way. Fuli exists at the end of the universe, only. The one we see is literally a projected memory of it. There’s “Fuli” and the “memory of Fuli”. They are very different things.

Fuli in the current present only exists in the form of multiple Pure Children, which are still only “potentially Fuli” rather than “actually Fuli”.

Nighting4l33yes said:
the 3.8 vid u showed alludes to nothing. i just said that the 2nd ascension means there had to be one initially too before his fragmentation. not that it's some sort of samsara universal loop because we vibe with it and loretubers said so.
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-> complains about “loretubers”
-> immediately spouts baseless headcanons

Wow. Imagine the game telling you Terminus is born at the end of the Universe, and you still say he was actually born prior to that. Baffling, really.
 
Mind you, there’s a very good reason why Fuli only has Type 1 Acausality instead of Type 3. Only Terminus exists in multiple points in time and that’s only because it divides itself into separate constituents (the cats), so it’s not even in multiple temporal points properly, either.
 
Mbpoops said:
My girl is just goated like that
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What if that “Aha” was just Nihilux cosplaying as Aha in that trailer. Their voice nothing like the one heard in that destruction trailer, moreover this “Aha” never confirms that they were the one to have send that cartridge instead they speak in a third person perspective.

Furthermore this Aha also has a head which shouldn’t be possible if go off of simulated universe where Aha has joked that they don’t have a head and in a book from planarchadia there exists a passage that AHA’s head was eaten by a serpent (veracity) which is why they use masks

Nihilux is probly gonna be revealed to be an emmanator of Elation and probly the first one as well if we go off of the new simulated universe stuff
 
Nighting4l33yes said:
yoh i can't reply directly again so ill ping @Mbpoops theres no way you out of all ppl are telling anyone if they play the game...
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Yes, I am, because you’re denying visual evidence to support your powerscaling headcanon that destroys the already messed up narrative hsr is trying to tell
Nighting4l33yes said:
the 3.7 patch was talking about fuli and it's merely retrocausality. mind you, this is against nova's point considering it illustrates a a simultaneous existence across multiple temporal, probably spatial too, positions.
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Fuli is literally the only aeon we accept with type 1 acausality because THEY’RE constantly birthing themselves causing a paradox i literslly brought up fuli in my messages and so did nova because fuli and terminus are the only aeons that ascend AT THE END OF TIME meaning the path is still there without the aeon
Nighting4l33yes said:
the 3.8 vid u showed alludes to nothing. i just said that the 2nd ascension means there had to be one initially too before his fragmentation. not that it's some sort of samsara universal loop because we vibe with it and loretubers said so.
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So you agree he only ascends at the end of time ok
 
Actual circles you have to be trolling atp. Not only do we have the game telling us aeons’ fates (basically their existences/time) are bound by the universe but also that these 2 specific aeons inly ascend at the end of time and we still have people denying it. Like atp i csnt even blame shaoji you mfs just run off pure headcanon
 
Nighting4l33yes said:
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What a nothingburger response.
This doesn't really add to what nova was saying.
Also:
**The Aeon that presides over the Path of Finality shall be born whenever any one of the Theory of Four Apocalypses could possibly unfold, and move backward in time. At that moment, THEY'Il manifest THEIR entire divinity into a clutter of black cats that travels across the universe while murmuring a prophecy that is destined to
be fulfilled.**

The loading screen +
When any one of the scenarios within the Theory of Four Apocalypses begins to unfold, Terminus shall ascend and begin to move forward back in time. At that moment, THEY'll manifest THEIR entire divinity into a clutter of black cats that travels across the universe, murmuring a prophecy that is destined to be fulfilled
Disproves you.

You're arguing against in-game statements + lore and it's wild.
You are headcanoning a lot.
 
SuperNova55555 said:
This isn’t true at all, by the way. Fuli exists at the end of the universe, only. The one we see is literally a projected memory of it. There’s “Fuli” and the “memory of Fuli”. They are very different things.

Fuli in the current present only exists in the form of multiple Pure Children, which are still only “potentially Fuli” rather than “actually Fuli”.


-> complains about “loretubers”
-> immediately spouts baseless headcanons

Wow. Imagine the game telling you Terminus is born at the end of the Universe, and you still say he was actually born prior to that. Baffling, really.
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in hsr memories are not passive illusions they are modes of existence. its literally just backwards causation. there arent two seperate entities. it's not a copy. its how they exist through time. the children show that fuli is just not instantiated in a localized form.

baseless = dialogues from the game that vary interpretation
headcanons = also said dialogues

yes bro you are the sole arbiter of deciding how we are meant to read the story

👍👍👍
 
Nighting4l33yes said:
in hsr memories are not passive illusions they are modes of existence. its literally just backwards causation. there arent two seperate entities. it's not a copy. its how they exist through time. the children are show that fuli is just not instantiated in a localized form.
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You’re confusing Memoria for Memory. They are not the same thing.
 
Hell this is what Herta says to Cyrene:
Herta:Yes. You live in the "now," but your "memory" remains in the past.
Herta: Just like the Aeon of Remembrance, a being made entirely of memories.
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Three comments cuz I really have to hammer this point in. It’s genuinely baffling this has to be explained.

Herta: And at that moment of ascension, THEIR "memory" stretches through the past, becoming what people now call "Fuli."
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Herta literally tells you that it’s Fuli’s memory that we call Fuli, but not Fuli themselves. It’s only Fuli’s memory that stretches into the past.
 
yes yes you are very baffled

"Thoughts equals existence. Thus, memory is the evidence of existence."

"Path of Remembrance: It is causality that transcends time" (but dw it's not retrocausality)

It would be except in this case we are talking about a godlike whose entire things are time and memories and being a non-linear entity whose existence extends across reality retroactively
 
Nighting4l33yes said:
It would be except in this case we are talking about a godlike whose entire things are time and memories and being a non-linear entity whose existence extends across reality retroactively
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Ur just making shit up now 😭😭😭 Fuli isnt nonlinear they’re still bound by time hell hed made by time because memories = past time is linear and fuli can only exist if the universe ends 😭😭😭
 
you overuse that crying emoji so much foooh
Mbpoops said:
Ur just making shit up now 😭😭😭 Fuli isnt nonlinear they’re still bound by time hell hed made by time because memories = past time is linear and fuli can only exist if the universe ends 😭😭😭
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you straight up have an ingame quote that says remembrance trascends time.
 
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