Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread

[SuperNova55555]

"This was when it absorbed all of Khaslana's powers and was tracing back to Nous, causing a Path Energy anomaly, " Did you not say this?

Sure. But at only Phase 3 was when it was threatening Nous.

 

[Mbpoops]

How does this relate to what I said? If it's not Zephyro who turned them into Sin Thirsters then who else

Read. The. Page. I even linked it bro no one turns them into sin thirsters, they are born from the obsessions of deceased pathstriders

 

[Voidnether]

Like genuienly if there was proof zephyro survived the explosion i would have no issue with giving him 2-A its just theres no ******* proof at all

Look since Zephyro required Welt to destroy the cosmos, it's still tierable because then we would just do versus matchups with Zephyro & Welt and their last possible wincon against someone is by themselves clashing destroying the universe, this is POSSIBLE

 

[Voidnether]

Read. The. Page. I even linked it bro no one turns them into sin thirsters, they are born from the obsessions of deceased pathstriders

I don't even know if you understand what I said atp

 

[Mbpoops]

I don't even know if you understand what I said atp

you are just refusing to read the page

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Sure. But at only Phase 3 was when it was threatening Nous.

Ok but his physicals corresponded with that spike in path energy. During Phase 3 rematch he still had the same exact physical stats + Infinite Hp retained from him siphoning Khaslana. If he magically stopped having that level then he'd have normal stats like Phase 1, 2, or any other boss.

 

[Mbpoops]

i cant reply to that other message but again the only tierable part is the explosion it doesnt go back to their physicals or holes

 

[SuperNova55555]

Ok but his physicals corresponded with that spike in path energy. During Phase 3 rematch he still had the same exact physical stats + Infinite Hp retained from him siphoning Khaslana. If he magically stopped having that level then he'd have normal stats like Phase 1, 2, or any other boss.

I'm fine with Phase 3 being that lol. Im talking about base Tomby here

 

[Mbpoops]

Like bro the page is a paragraph long and basically confirms ur just making headcanon

 

[Voidnether]

i cant reply to that other message but again the only tierable part is the explosion it doesnt go back to their physicals or holes

Quote the part where I said it scales to their physicals NOW

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

I'm fine with Phase 3 being that lol. Im talking about base Tomby here

Oh no Phase 1-2 Base Irontomb is 100% Tier 3. I'm fine with that. I'm just talking about the Phase 3 Dr Tomb. That dude 100% scales above Khaslana.

 

[Mbpoops]

Quote the part where I said it scales to their physicals NOW

Then why are you even trying to scale zephyro to ******* irontomb???

 

[Voidnether]

Then why are you even trying to scale zephyro to ******* irontomb???

Because Zephyro destroying the universe is the same tier as when Irontomb destroyed it?

Look since Zephyro required Welt to destroy the cosmos, it's still tierable because then we would just do versus matchups with Zephyro & Welt and their last possible wincon against someone is by themselves clashing destroying the universe, this is POSSIBLE

What part here implies it scales to their physicals

 

[Voidnether]

Dude you say it as if Khaslana boxing Zephyro would make him 2-A when all I said is that Khaslana is still on the same tier because it scratched Nanook

 

[PlungingThroughTime]

 

[Mbpoops]

Why wouldn't Zephyro just straight up be the same tier as Irontomb when it destroyed the universe, I mean a clash between him and Welt destroyed the entire cosmos, this is still tierable. I lowkey don't see the reason because even if you said "oh it's gravity hax bro" said gravity still destroyed the cosmos. Mfs out here talking as if Zephyro would get negative diffed by Acheron the way apparently Zephyro's nihility hax isn't more potent than Acheron's when it turned the Astral Express into sin thirsters

“Why wouldnt zephyro be the same tier as irontomb” implies scaling physicals. He’d just be given a new key that says “with welt”

 

[Mbpoops]

Dude you say it as if Khaslana boxing Zephyro would make him 2-A when all I said is that Khaslana is still on the same tier because it scratched Nanook

I didnt even mention khaslana

 

[Voidnether]

“Why wouldnt zephyro be the same tier as irontomb” implies scaling physicals. He’d just be given a new key that says “with welt”

And the part I bolded is completely fine as long as Welt is included in any Zephyro versus matchups, this being their last wincon

Why wouldn't Zephyro and Welt destroying the universe won't make him be in the same tier as when Irontomb destroyed the universe? NOTHING ABOUT THIS IMPLIES IT SCALES TO THEIR PHYSICALS You just made this shit up fr, and I still disagree with Zephyro dying because then again who tf would turn them into self annihilators

UNLESS you actually thought Zephyro and Welt clashing makes everyone turn into sin thirsters for some reason because they die in the explosion

 

[Mbpoops]

And the part I bolded is completely fine as long as Welt is included in any Zephyro versus matchups, this being their last wincon

Why wouldn't Zephyro and Welt destroying the universe won't make him be in the same tier as when Irontomb destroyed the universe? NOTHING ABOUT THIS IMPLIES IT SCALES TO THEIR PHYSICALS You just made this shit up fr

Your first paragraph implied it scaling to physicals but even then without welt this mf is going down to 3-C

 

[Mbpoops]

You just made this shit up fr, and I still disagree with Zephyro dying because then again who tf would turn them into self annihilators

UNLESS you actually thought Zephyro and Welt clashing makes everyone turn into sin thirsters for some reason because they die in the explosion

dawg just read the page i even sent a ss. If zephyo survived the clash he’d be 2-A which goes back to physicals through UES theres genuienly just no proof he survived

 

[Mbpoops]

Also do yall know how insanely OoC it would be for zephyro ask welt to help him suicide bomb their opponent? Like this key is genuienly unusable if the fight is incharacter

 

[Mbpoops]

“Yo welt dipper is kinda beating our ass wanna kill outselves and force an incon?”

 

[KingOfDarknessBelow]

Your first paragraph implied it scaling to physicals but even then without welt this mf is going down to 3-C

Should it not simply be with black hole rather then with welt

 

[Mbpoops]

Should it not simply be with black hole rather then with welt

We havent seen him do it with any other black hole but i guess thats fine aswell would be funny if zephyo just incon’s acheron when she puts him in her domain and he nukes them both wiuld also give welt a 2-A key with white hole then

 

[Mbpoops]

Zephyro seeing a black hole like mihawk seeing a sword user in OP

 

[Le'garde273]

Zephyro destroying the universe meanwhilw nanook waiting for another billions of years for heat death entropy

 

[Mbpoops]

Zephyro destroying the universe meanwhilw nanook waiting for another billions of years for heat death entropy

H3-A nanook with prep time vs 2-A zephyro x welt

 

[Le'garde273]

H3-A nanook with prep time vs 2-A zephyro x welt

Anti-Entropy Sovereign >>> The avatar of entropy

 

[Mbpoops]

Anti-Entropy Sovereigns >>> The avatar of entropy

Einstein and tesla with prep time > aeons

 

[Zanesucksatlife]

Zephyro destroying the universe meanwhilw nanook waiting for another billions of years for heat death entropy

Heat Death that's limited to the material world
Where's Nanooks HDE to upscale a universal concept aka Heat death? Is his HDE struggling?

 

[Le'garde273]

Einstein and tesla with prep time > aeons

Tesla could beat welt ass, so 100%

Heat Death that's limited to the material world
Where's Nanooks HDE to upscale a universal concept aka Heat death? Is his HDE struggling?

He just fraudulent

 

[Mbpoops]

Heat Death that's limited to the material world
Where's Nanooks HDE to upscale a universal concept aka Heat death? Is his HDE struggling?

Hde wouldnt upscale the heat it just means his avatar is higher dimensional

 

[Le'garde273]

Anyway does nanook heat scale to this, or they have it's own heat scalling

 

[Mbpoops]

Anyway does nanook heat scale to this, or they have it's own heat scalling

Bro put nether’s pfp but yea cus zephyro made a supernova so nanook upscales from that

 

[Zanesucksatlife]

He just fraudulent

REAL

Hde wouldnt upscale the heat it just means his avatar is higher dimensional

I know Im joking

Anyway does nanook heat scale to this, or they have it's own heat scalling

LOL

 

[Voidnether]

Anyway does nanook heat scale to this, or they have it's own heat scalling

If I woke up as @SuperNova55555, I would have @Mbpoops riding my 2 imaginary trees argument 24/7 (ggz being different cosmology and imaginary trees)

 

[Mbpoops]

If I woke up as @SuperNova55555, I would have @Mbpoops riding my 2 imaginary trees argument 24/7 (ggz being different cosmology and imaginary trees)

Ive never agreed with there being 2 trees btw

 

[Voidnether]

Ive never agreed with there being 2 trees btw

You would agree whether you like it or not because that's what Nova is saying

 

[Mbpoops]

You would agree whether you like it or not because that's what Nova is saying

And you whole heartedly believe this even though he was clearly joking..?

 

[Voidnether]

And you whole heartedly believe this even though he was clearly joking..?

Nova literally thought GGZ was in a different cosmology just because there were explicitly separate timelines to HI3 but alright if you thought Nova was just joking lol