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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread

SuperNova55555 said:
Vita-vs-Sparkle.webp

Quick google MTL:

(https://www.bilibili.com/opus/993951641713508361?spm_id_from=333.999.0.0)
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bro stole mechs so she doesnt get negative diffed by vita 🙏
 
PedjaTarzan said:
bro stole mechs so she doesnt get negative diffed by vita 🙏
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Hello, would you mind checking out this crt?
vsbattles.com

Are Aeons getting kicked out of Tier 1? (Staff Version)

(Permission granted by Rainaaaaaa) So. Following that horrid thread (7 pages in 12 hours), I think it's pretty much a given that this should be redone in a more civil fashion. As a preface, I'll genuinely be using similar arguments as the last thread, but I'll also be adding another section...
vsbattles.com vsbattles.com
 
Mbpoops said:
Hello, would you mind checking out this crt?
vsbattles.com

Are Aeons getting kicked out of Tier 1? (Staff Version)

(Permission granted by Rainaaaaaa) So. Following that horrid thread (7 pages in 12 hours), I think it's pretty much a given that this should be redone in a more civil fashion. As a preface, I'll genuinely be using similar arguments as the last thread, but I'll also be adding another section...
vsbattles.com vsbattles.com
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???
 
Mbpoops said:
Hello, would you mind checking out this crt?
vsbattles.com

Are Aeons getting kicked out of Tier 1? (Staff Version)

(Permission granted by Rainaaaaaa) So. Following that horrid thread (7 pages in 12 hours), I think it's pretty much a given that this should be redone in a more civil fashion. As a preface, I'll genuinely be using similar arguments as the last thread, but I'll also be adding another section...
vsbattles.com vsbattles.com
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I can do that instead. Lemme read the thread first. Hopefully there are summaries as well
 
Mbpoops said:
Everyone is going to 3-C/4-A anyway nothing to really nuke after that
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Why wouldn't Zephyro just straight up be the same tier as Irontomb when it destroyed the universe, I mean a clash between him and Welt destroyed the entire cosmos, this is still tierable. I lowkey don't see the reason because even if you said "oh it's gravity hax bro" said gravity still destroyed the cosmos. Mfs out here talking as if Zephyro would get negative diffed by Acheron the way apparently Zephyro's nihility hax isn't more potent than Acheron's when it turned the Astral Express into sin thirsters

If you twist this into something else, I'm not saying that Zephyro fighting Khaslana would make Khaslana on the same tier (obviously) just because he fought Zephyro but he's still in the same tier cause he wounded Nanook
 
Voidnether said:
Why wouldn't Zephyro just straight up be the same tier as Irontomb when it destroyed the universe, I mean a clash between him and Welt destroyed the entire cosmos, this is still tierable. I lowkey don't see the reason because even if you said "oh it's gravity hax bro" said gravity still destroyed the cosmos. Mfs out here talking as if Zephyro would get negative diffed by Acheron the way apparently Zephyro's nihility hax isn't more potent than Acheron's when it turned the Astral Express into sin thirsters

If you twist this into something else, I'm not saying that Zephyro fighting Khaslana would make Khaslana on the same tier (obviously) just because he fought Zephyro but he's still in the same tier cause he wounded Nanook
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Voidnether said:
Why wouldn't Zephyro just straight up be the same tier as Irontomb when it destroyed the universe, I mean a clash between him and Welt destroyed the entire cosmos, this is still tierable. I lowkey don't see the reason because even if you said "oh it's gravity hax bro" said gravity still destroyed the cosmos. Mfs out here talking as if Zephyro would get negative diffed by Acheron the way apparently Zephyro's nihility hax isn't more potent than Acheron's when it turned the Astral Express into sin thirsters
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We’ve had this argument like 50 times bro. Zephyro and welt DO NOT SCALE TO THE CLASH yes they’re holes are strong but the explosion happens from a reaction done when a white hole and black hole collide (2 opposing singularities polar opposites) the explosion yes is 2-A but no one ******* scales to it the most you can get is 3-C for white hole and quasi but zephyro is already 3-C so he’d get a “higher” rating and theres no proof zephyro survived the attack so you cant say “b-but he survived” and no he didnt turn them into sin thirsters sin thirsters spawn from the obsession of pathstriders after they die. Also about irontomb he shouldnt scale to the nuke either its just IM2 hax and nothing more even if we say “b-but UES” the IM2 shit doesnt apply to physicals so he’d get a 2-A with IM2 explosion of whatever the **** we name the attack
 
Voidnether said:
Why wouldn't Zephyro just straight up be the same tier as Irontomb when it destroyed the universe, I mean a clash between him and Welt destroyed the entire cosmos, this is still tierable. I lowkey don't see the reason because even if you said "oh it's gravity hax bro" said gravity still destroyed the cosmos. Mfs out here talking as if Zephyro would get negative diffed by Acheron the way apparently Zephyro's nihility hax isn't more potent than Acheron's when it turned the Astral Express into sin thirsters

If you twist this into something else, I'm not saying that Zephyro fighting Khaslana would make Khaslana on the same tier (obviously) just because he fought Zephyro but he's still in the same tier cause he wounded Nanook
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Get Zephyro to do that without a black holer
 
Mbpoops said:
We’ve had this argument like 50 times bro. Zephyro and welt DO NOT SCALE TO THE CLASH yes they’re holes are strong but the explosion happens from a reaction done when a white hole and black hole collide (2 opposing singularities polar opposites) the explosion yes is 2-A but no one ******* scales to it the most you can get is 3-C for white hole and quasi but zephyro is already 3-C so he’d get a “higher” rating and theres no proof zephyro survived the attack so you cant say “b-but he survived” and no he didnt turn them into sin thirsters sin thirsters spawn from the obsession of pathstriders after they die. Also about irontomb he shouldnt scale to the nuke either its just IM2 hax and nothing more even if we say “b-but UES” the IM2 shit doesnt apply to physicals so he’d get a 2-A with IM2 explosion of whatever the **** we name the attack
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I love how you're saying this like you also didn't say "Irontomb is stronger than Khaslana who scratched Nanook" meaning he gets the rating anyways

Unless you think Irontomb is unironically weaker than the dude hes merged with
 
Mbpoops said:
We’ve had this argument like 50 times bro. Zephyro and welt DO NOT SCALE TO THE CLASH yes they’re holes are strong but the explosion happens from a reaction done when a white hole and black hole collide (2 opposing singularities polar opposites) the explosion yes is 2-A but no one ******* scales to it the most you can get is 3-C for white hole and quasi but zephyro is already 3-C so he’d get a “higher” rating and theres no proof zephyro survived the attack so you cant say “b-but he survived” and no he didnt turn them into sin thirsters sin thirsters spawn from the obsession of pathstriders after they die. Also about irontomb he shouldnt scale to the nuke either its just IM2 hax and nothing more even if we say “b-but UES” the IM2 shit doesnt apply to physicals so he’d get a 2-A with IM2 explosion of whatever the **** we name the attack
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SuperNova55555 said:
Get Zephyro to do that without a black holer
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Versus Threads that involve more than two characters (i.e. a 2v1) will only be added to profiles under specific circumstances, which are:
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• If a character canonically needs another character to fight at their full potential (i.e. Naofumi Iwatani and Raphtalia)
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• If one character is useless on their own (i.e. Gentle Criminal and La Brava)
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• If two characters are canonically known for fighting alongside one another frequently and supplement each other's skills in combat (i.e. Twinrova, Ice Climbers, and Batman and Robin)
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• Or utilize summons or familiars as their primary combat method (i.e. Pokémon Trainers and Digimon Tamers).
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• In addition, matches added this way must be limited to two participants per "team" to keep debates orderly and organized, with the exception being characters who primarily battle with summons or familiars. This rule mainly exists because it would create misleading results with weaker participants benefitting from stronger partners, and because it would be too messy to properly structure the win and loss sections with too many characters in each matchup result.
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Do you guys like not know this at all?
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
I love how you're saying this like you also didn't say "Irontomb is stronger than Khaslana who scratched Nanook" meaning he gets the rating anyways

Unless you think Irontomb is unironically weaker than the dude hes merged with
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I mean if its complete irontomb sure idm that incomplete nuh uh
 
Mbpoops said:
We’ve had this argument like 50 times bro. Zephyro and welt DO NOT SCALE TO THE CLASH yes they’re holes are strong but the explosion happens from a reaction done when a white hole and black hole collide (2 opposing singularities polar opposites) the explosion yes is 2-A but no one ******* scales to it the most you can get is 3-C for white hole and quasi but zephyro is already 3-C so he’d get a “higher” rating and theres no proof zephyro survived the attack so you cant say “b-but he survived” and no he didnt turn them into sin thirsters sin thirsters spawn from the obsession of pathstriders after they die. Also about irontomb he shouldnt scale to the nuke either its just IM2 hax and nothing more even if we say “b-but UES” the IM2 shit doesnt apply to physicals so he’d get a 2-A with IM2 explosion of whatever the **** we name the attack
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Also if Zephyro died, who was turning the Astral Express into Sin Thirsters in the aftermath because I am sure that IS definitely Zephyro and this happened after the clash against Welt
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
I love how you're saying this like you also didn't say "Irontomb is stronger than Khaslana who scratched Nanook" meaning he gets the rating anyways

Unless you think Irontomb is unironically weaker than the dude hes merged with
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Khaslana has to utilize a Coreflame burst for that. Do you have proof Irontomb is actively doing that...?

Voidnether said:
Do you guys like not know this at all?
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You cannot be serious.
 
Mbpoops said:
None of this applied to zephyro or welt bro 😭😭😭 unless you want the ENTIRE hi3 cast to upscale from HoS idm
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Yo do you actually think astral express was being jobbed into becoming sin thirsters if Zephyro actually died in the clash against Welt by a random Shadow of IX
 
SuperNova55555 said:
You cannot be serious.
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In the events that Zephyro died (which I'm sure he isn't because hes the one turning the Astral Express into Sin Thirsters once again), if one specific attack requires both of them at the same time it's permissible to use both characters in versus matchups
 
Voidnether said:
Yo do you actually think astral express was being jobbed into becoming sin thirsters if Zephyro actually died in the clash against Welt by a random Shadow of IX
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Mf they destroyed the universe they died from collateral damage 😭😭😭 zephyro didnt need to go out of his way to kill them and again sin thirsters are born from pathstrider’s obsessions READ THE PAGE

AND WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH WHAT I SAID
 
Look since Zephyro required Welt to destroy the cosmos, it's still tierable because then we would just do versus matchups with Zephyro & Welt and their last possible wincon against someone is by themselves clashing destroying the universe, this is POSSIBLE
 
Mbpoops said:
Mf they destroyed the universe they died from collateral damage 😭😭😭 zephyro didnt need to go out of his way to kill them and again sin thirsters are born from pathstrider’s obsessions READ THE PAGE

AND WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH WHAT I SAID
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How does this relate to what I said? If it's not Zephyro who turned them into Sin Thirsters then who else
 
Like genuienly if there was proof zephyro survived the explosion i would have no issue with giving him 2-A its just theres no ******* proof at all
 
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