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Nop, we just know that it can have a ring...of bodies
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Invincible Season 4 General Discussion Thread
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You could probably downplay the planet size because of that. No way billions of bodies can form a ring that big
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If Infinity ray can destroy a star by itself but couldn't do the same to Viltrum, does that upscale the Planet's durability?
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Someone do the maths
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the issue is by how much they scale, the planet's destruction is flat out more impressive. Thats objectively true. The issue is how much they contribute because most of the destruction we see is done by space racers gun so we can't really tell how much they added to the destruction
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wasn't it billions of billions?
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Just read the chain on the boys page, In no universe can you statue someone in speed and then be chased by them. If A Train was consistent, he would be in china before Homelander even crossed the city.
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5-A is out in my view, since Space-Racer's gun is High 4-C and destabilizes whatever it hits.
But they're probably still Tier 5 just for ejected debris.
But they're probably still Tier 5 just for ejected debris.
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Everything the gun hits cracks, expands, and then explodes. It still causes an overall structural collapse, which is true in either canon.
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But without that mention, it makes it sound like it just passes right through things and that's it (mostly true)
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How did the gun destroy a star if all it does is pass through the star? Wouldn’t that do nothing to it?
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POWER
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TRUE
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I mean the trio managed to overpower against the explosion which pushed thragg back too so they probably scale from that initial explosion
Dust_Collector
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Thragg winding up his punch so hard it created a vacuum and dragged in Nolan was crazy, that man is a demon.
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TyranoDoom30
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Damn, they sure did upscale the Viltrum feat. That sh*t even formed a pseudo-nebula like thing. I'm pretty sure depending on the size we could maybe get a Low 4-C
Also, Nolan and Mark got it way easier in the show than in the comics. Comics Thragg MURKED them.
Also, Nolan and Mark got it way easier in the show than in the comics. Comics Thragg MURKED them.
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I mean, as stated by Allen, Viltrumites can blow up planets, and the trio survived the core's heat very fine. The laser did help, but it wasn't the sole factor
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But actually let the laser do all the work if the laser did most of it, why risk their lives (or not)
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because why'd they go through all that trouble in the first place lol
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For why it blew up a star and not the planet, it's entirely possible that the hydrogen of the sun caused the intitial explosions to cause a chain reaction by itself. Like dropping a bomb in a ammonia storage unit
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I feel like the main question to this entire feat is just why either of the other party was necessary.
If the Viltrumites can just easily tank punching through a planet with no assistance (even if they scale to 1% of the feat they are scaling to planetary likely and should be easily capable of doing this), why did they need the gun at all.
And if the gun can one shot the planet like it does everything else (and it obviously destabilizes the entire planet and results in mass destruction), why did the Trio fly behind it at all instead of just letting it destroy the planet over the course of like less than a minute.
Someone here is a fraud.
If the Viltrumites can just easily tank punching through a planet with no assistance (even if they scale to 1% of the feat they are scaling to planetary likely and should be easily capable of doing this), why did they need the gun at all.
And if the gun can one shot the planet like it does everything else (and it obviously destabilizes the entire planet and results in mass destruction), why did the Trio fly behind it at all instead of just letting it destroy the planet over the course of like less than a minute.
Someone here is a fraud.
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Well it’s either that or Nolan is just absurdly dumb for diving into Viltrum when the gun could destroy it solo, even if they themselves could do it together.
So either the gun couldn’t destroy it, the Trio don’t scale to it, or Nolan’s decision making is questionable
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Or all 4 needed to be useful?
How I took it, was the infinity ray destabilised the planet while nolan pulled a flaxan and went speeding after it causing even more damage to occur
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bad writing tbf
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So then what portion are they meant to be scaling to? The gun is leaving massive pockets behind for them to fly through with them not really tunneling through anything until the core to the other end. Up until the core they’re not really doing as much as the laser is, and even then it’s ambiguous what THEY specifically did to the core. Did they push the core and cause it to erupt or is that just the gun doing it?
The feat just confuses me because if all four parties were required, why did the viltrumites just not seem to be doing as much as the gun.
TyranoDoom30
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They also don't have the "one mistake and we're all dead" line from the comics, so they can scale fine and dandy without that line that every slander uses to downplay the feat
Now here's the better question:
Who's gonna calc that?
Now here's the better question:
Who's gonna calc that?
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Slander is if its not true.
My assumption is the following:
- Viltrumites cannot dog through a planet, as shown by Mark being stated as not being capable of such
- The Infinity Gun can destabilize the planet, but the planet's gravity will let it reform itself. Planet's don't have the mass of Stars, so when the core reforms it doesn't go nova
- The Viltrumites ram through the planet to prevent core restablization, causing so much damage that the core cannot properly reform
- The core trigger a planetary collapse and explosion
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I’m genuinely gonna just watch this show for feats now
Viltrumite War was a huge letdown and even ep5 had more fluid fight animation
It honestly felt very rushed and uninspired in key moments too, like when Thragg f’ed up Oliver
Toradora got better fight animation than ts
Viltrumite War was a huge letdown and even ep5 had more fluid fight animation
It honestly felt very rushed and uninspired in key moments too, like when Thragg f’ed up Oliver
Toradora got better fight animation than ts
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The feats better in the show but its clear this is not their feat but a chain reaction due to their destruction from inside the planet. It'd be the same calc done for the comics where the other side being destroyed is calced, so is it really necessary? Also I still can't really understand how we're alright scaling them to the feat if they can't survive hitting the core. Are planets cores just much higher above L5B or something?
Arkenis
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I suggested they get tiering off speed since they go faster than basically ever to generate a massive plasma barrier around them.
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I'm pretty sure the "we'd die if we hit the core" statement is just dismissed since it makes no sense even if the Viltrum bust was lowballed to High 6-A. Withstanding a planet's core just isn't that impressive
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Here is the problem with the assumption that Space Racer's gun couldn't one shot the planet. It doesn't need to. He can just keep shooting.
Really if Mark, Nolan and Thaddeus were needed to trail behind the shot for some reason, couldn't three more shots do that same thing anyway ?
It's not like his gun has a cooldown, we already saw him spam.
There is no excuse, it's a badly written scene. Plain and simple.
Really if Mark, Nolan and Thaddeus were needed to trail behind the shot for some reason, couldn't three more shots do that same thing anyway ?
It's not like his gun has a cooldown, we already saw him spam.
There is no excuse, it's a badly written scene. Plain and simple.
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All Might's gonna sue someone lol
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