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So. Something that's been particularly bugging me out regarding the LOTM profiles is this:
This is, well, fine and all.... but it ignores the reason why that is the case.
Strictly speaking, it is because "Reality resists mysticism", as the author states. (Said at the last scan, the QnA is very long srry. Also credits to the LOTM wiki for this)
The relevant part:
It's also for example, why this exists:
And, why does Reality do this? Well because of the Mother Goddess of Depravity:
It's also why Reality-oriented GOOs have more immediate range than ones not Reality-oriented:
And before anyone tries to posit that "MGOD needs to actively use her Symbolism to cause this, so GOOs are inherently limited".
No. That's not how symbolism works.
There's a reason why GOOs are manifestations of Symbolism and that their effects are active all the time, because a universal concept existing brings about its symbolic effect, especially when things exist to symbolize that concept; that's how all metaphysical prowess in LOTM manifests. Reality, as Reality-itself, symbolizes... itself. Thus it exhibits reality-like effects. And the concept of "Reality" effects more within Reality. It's just that MGOD, as the "consciousness of Reality" gets more say in this because at it's core, she is literally that concept itself.
It's for example why you'll have the author claim that stars have symbolism. Because obviously a star symbolizes stars, and thus the world manifests accordingly to show that symbolism. Or why the Key of Light can reset the universe without the interference of other Symbolisms. Etc. Etc. Because all Symbolisms exhibit their effects as they instantiate stuff. The existence of Reality Symbolism, manifests Reality-like things and thus things that are not Reality-like are opposed by it and suppressed. And as I said before, MGOD is the very symbol of Reality itself, thus speaking of Reality is tantamount to speaking about MGOD.
Which again, via this scan and the argumentation above, I'm positing for all Great Old Ones to have all of their "Symbolic Abilities" be passive by default at a smaller scale, as it's their own existence that brings them about.
Tl;dr:
1) GOOs are all intrinsically 1-A, it's js that another GOO is actively weakening them.
2) All concepts in LOTM actively manifest their particulars, and GOOs being the direct manifestations and embodiments of them do the exact same.
Votes:
Celestial_Pegasus (Agree)
ActuallySpaceMan42 (Agree)
Vietthai96
Every GOO Key has "3-C, up to 1-A" as the assigned rating. The logic, here, being that Great Old Ones' immediate abilities only extend up to a galaxy inherently, whilst they are only symbolically 1-A.
This is, well, fine and all.... but it ignores the reason why that is the case.
Strictly speaking, it is because "Reality resists mysticism", as the author states. (Said at the last scan, the QnA is very long srry. Also credits to the LOTM wiki for this)
The relevant part:
Which is, as said, basically saying that the reason why the GOOs even have this limitation is because Reality is actively tampering with their effects.
It's also for example, why this exists:
^ Because Reality actively rejects the Spirit World Creatures.
And, why does Reality do this? Well because of the Mother Goddess of Depravity:
Basically, the very universal concept of Reality actively suppresses all non-Reality things inside the physical universe.
It's also why Reality-oriented GOOs have more immediate range than ones not Reality-oriented:
So yea, pretty simple, they’re js being suppressed by another entity in-universe and would not be applicable cross-verse. It should js be removed and the key should stay as 1-A and nun else. And there will also be a note added that links to this section to explain the misconception.
And before anyone tries to posit that "MGOD needs to actively use her Symbolism to cause this, so GOOs are inherently limited".
No. That's not how symbolism works.
There's a reason why GOOs are manifestations of Symbolism and that their effects are active all the time, because a universal concept existing brings about its symbolic effect, especially when things exist to symbolize that concept; that's how all metaphysical prowess in LOTM manifests. Reality, as Reality-itself, symbolizes... itself. Thus it exhibits reality-like effects. And the concept of "Reality" effects more within Reality. It's just that MGOD, as the "consciousness of Reality" gets more say in this because at it's core, she is literally that concept itself.
It's for example why you'll have the author claim that stars have symbolism. Because obviously a star symbolizes stars, and thus the world manifests accordingly to show that symbolism. Or why the Key of Light can reset the universe without the interference of other Symbolisms. Etc. Etc. Because all Symbolisms exhibit their effects as they instantiate stuff. The existence of Reality Symbolism, manifests Reality-like things and thus things that are not Reality-like are opposed by it and suppressed. And as I said before, MGOD is the very symbol of Reality itself, thus speaking of Reality is tantamount to speaking about MGOD.
Which again, via this scan and the argumentation above, I'm positing for all Great Old Ones to have all of their "Symbolic Abilities" be passive by default at a smaller scale, as it's their own existence that brings them about.
It's why this was added last thread. Klein never used Fooling against Supernova Dominator, it's just that his very existence is conceptually equivalent to "Foolishness", thus it naturally manifests. The same way SD manifests gravity, and the same way MoD manifests decay.
Tl;dr:
1) GOOs are all intrinsically 1-A, it's js that another GOO is actively weakening them.
2) All concepts in LOTM actively manifest their particulars, and GOOs being the direct manifestations and embodiments of them do the exact same.
Votes:
Celestial_Pegasus (Agree)
ActuallySpaceMan42 (Agree)
Vietthai96
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