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Hello there. Today we will be discussing Kawaki. This is a reattempt of this CRT. A quite controversial topic at that, at least from what I’ve come across lately.
New profiles
Here are the new profiles with the proposed scaling;
Kawaki (Two Blue Vortex)
Made by me
Jura
Made by @AlternativePrinciple
Note
The 4-B is just a placeholder, and what’s being argued in this CRT is that Kawaki is relative to Isshiki.
Agree: Karo_senpaii, DavidTPPM, JohnHendrix, MinatoSparkle, Xdcagecat, HelloThere1089, Reiner04, R81handman, Aytugsss, Foriaa, Random-Helper323
Disagree:
Neutral: Nierre, Testarossa002
A perfect vessel, as established consistently across the series, is one that can contain and output the power of an Otsutsuki without falling apart. To seek immortality, the Otsutsukis go about looking for the perfect vessel to contain their power. We see this when Isshiki sought Kawaki’s body while labeling Jigen’s as imperfect and unable to contain his power, which is evident when his body starts to crack as a result of using Isshiki’s chakra for an extended period of time. When Isshiki revived in Jigen’s body, he only had a timespan of a couple of days to live due to the body being defective as a result of being an imperfect vessel. Now, how does all this affect Kawaki?
Kawaki is the perfect vessel for Isshiki’s power; this point is clear enough. He’s rare in that sense, as he’s one of the two, alongside Code, who survived the Karmic process (a process initiated by Isshiki in his course of finding the perfect host), with the latter of the two having a defective Karma. It’s pretty clear how the narrative here is that Kawaki’s body can withstand the full power of Isshiki, since it’s needed for the complete revival of Isshiki. In essence, when an Otsutsuki reincarnates from a vessel, all other backup vessels that are holding the Karma lose that power. Kawaki first lost his Karma seal when Isshiki resurrected through Jigen.
Kawaki is the perfect vessel for Isshiki’s power; this point is clear enough. He’s rare in that sense, as he’s one of the two, alongside Code, who survived the Karmic process (a process initiated by Isshiki in his course of finding the perfect host), with the latter of the two having a defective Karma. It’s pretty clear how the narrative here is that Kawaki’s body can withstand the full power of Isshiki, since it’s needed for the complete revival of Isshiki. In essence, when an Otsutsuki reincarnates from a vessel, all other backup vessels that are holding the Karma lose that power. Kawaki first lost his Karma seal when Isshiki resurrected through Jigen.
After losing the Karma earlier, Kawaki regained it due to Amado reinstating it, but this time it serves as a backup file for Akebi. The thing here is that Amado couldn’t take the risk of Kawaki dying, so he boosted Kawaki’s defensive and regenerative abilities to the maximum while significantly reducing his offensive abilities. When Kawaki found out about this, he pressured Amado into boosting his offensive abilities to the maximum.
After said confrontation, Amado boosted Kawaki’s offensive abilities to a threshold close to his limit in order to stand up to the Divine Trees. After these boosts, Amado states that Kawaki’s body can’t tolerate any more power without the risk of breaking down. As established above, any power that surpasses the threshold for what a perfect vessel can contain should logically surpass it in attack potency as well, meaning the level of power Kawaki could output at the first boost should logically be equal to Isshiki’s. We see this when Kawaki overheats from using too much power, which shouldn’t be the case since he’s the perfect vessel for outputting Isshiki’s true power without breaking.
Does this break the scaling?
Nobody outside a serious Jura, Daemon, and Otsutsuki form Boruto scales to Kawaki. Jura has a thing with varying attack potency based on who he’s fighting. We see this when he fights Himawari; he was initially overpowered by her, but when he decides to use even a little of his power, she is instantly overpowered. Moreover, when he fought Kawaki, we see him saying he’s using a little of his power. It’s also why Jura can comfortably keep up with base Boruto and instantly overpower him the moment he tries to.
Daemon scales because his strength was described as limitless by Boruto, despite witnessing Kawaki’s.
Otsutsuki from Boruto scales based on a statement of Momoshiki believing he could easily dispose of Kawaki if given the chance. It’s a straightforward comparison, and it doesn’t break the scaling since no one scales to that version yet. Even if Karma Boruto scales, it doesn’t break it.
Is the jump in power above Isshiki logical?
This is Amado doing what he does best. I mean, we are looking at a man who singlehandedly made cyborgs stronger than Jigen from Shibai cells, made a body for Delta that rivals the Six Paths tier, and made scientific tools that can absorb and increase the potency of a jutsu. There’s no telling how much further he can boost the power of Karma when given the chance. So yes, the jump is logical.
How consistent is this?
It is pretty much consistent, considering Jura (who Karma Kawaki scales above) casually destroyed a black cube summoned by Kawaki. These cubes are so durable that Isshiki sought them to be useful against Baryon Mode Naruto, so this just further reinforces the idea that the top of the current god tiers are Isshiki level and above.
After said confrontation, Amado boosted Kawaki’s offensive abilities to a threshold close to his limit in order to stand up to the Divine Trees. After these boosts, Amado states that Kawaki’s body can’t tolerate any more power without the risk of breaking down. As established above, any power that surpasses the threshold for what a perfect vessel can contain should logically surpass it in attack potency as well, meaning the level of power Kawaki could output at the first boost should logically be equal to Isshiki’s. We see this when Kawaki overheats from using too much power, which shouldn’t be the case since he’s the perfect vessel for outputting Isshiki’s true power without breaking.
Does this break the scaling?
Nobody outside a serious Jura, Daemon, and Otsutsuki form Boruto scales to Kawaki. Jura has a thing with varying attack potency based on who he’s fighting. We see this when he fights Himawari; he was initially overpowered by her, but when he decides to use even a little of his power, she is instantly overpowered. Moreover, when he fought Kawaki, we see him saying he’s using a little of his power. It’s also why Jura can comfortably keep up with base Boruto and instantly overpower him the moment he tries to.
Daemon scales because his strength was described as limitless by Boruto, despite witnessing Kawaki’s.
Otsutsuki from Boruto scales based on a statement of Momoshiki believing he could easily dispose of Kawaki if given the chance. It’s a straightforward comparison, and it doesn’t break the scaling since no one scales to that version yet. Even if Karma Boruto scales, it doesn’t break it.
Is the jump in power above Isshiki logical?
This is Amado doing what he does best. I mean, we are looking at a man who singlehandedly made cyborgs stronger than Jigen from Shibai cells, made a body for Delta that rivals the Six Paths tier, and made scientific tools that can absorb and increase the potency of a jutsu. There’s no telling how much further he can boost the power of Karma when given the chance. So yes, the jump is logical.
How consistent is this?
It is pretty much consistent, considering Jura (who Karma Kawaki scales above) casually destroyed a black cube summoned by Kawaki. These cubes are so durable that Isshiki sought them to be useful against Baryon Mode Naruto, so this just further reinforces the idea that the top of the current god tiers are Isshiki level and above.
Kawaki’s body can contain and output the full power of Isshiki.
A power that causes Kawaki’s body to break is > Isshiki’s.
Jura, Daemon, Ōtsutsuki mode Boruto, and Karma Kawaki scales to Isshiki.
A power that causes Kawaki’s body to break is > Isshiki’s.
Jura, Daemon, Ōtsutsuki mode Boruto, and Karma Kawaki scales to Isshiki.
New profiles
Here are the new profiles with the proposed scaling;
Kawaki (Two Blue Vortex)
Made by me
Jura
Made by @AlternativePrinciple
Note
The 4-B is just a placeholder, and what’s being argued in this CRT is that Kawaki is relative to Isshiki.
Agree: Karo_senpaii, DavidTPPM, JohnHendrix, MinatoSparkle, Xdcagecat, HelloThere1089, Reiner04, R81handman, Aytugsss, Foriaa, Random-Helper323
Disagree:
Neutral: Nierre, Testarossa002
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But anyways yeah I don't disagree but I think the topic merits some more scrutiny before being applied fully, a possibly/likely rating might be appropriate
