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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread

Voidnether said:
1. Durandal destroyed said Low 2-C bubble with her sword the same way Kevin is able to destroy Su's 2-A leaf world which comprises of infinite possibilities by piercing it with the Judgement of Shamash, unless you wanna say that the latter doesn't qualify for any Tiers and is just Hax then shouldn't we say the same too with Durandal? Which leads to nowhere.
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this has to be the most larp ive ever seen oml 😭

1. dudu never destroyed a low 2-C bubble and especially not with her sword. all she did was cut the compact dimensions of the ether anchor to destroy Europe which was corrupted. that is at most dimensional manip potency or extradimensional range. actually her sword doesnt even qualify as hax since the physical sword is what cuts the spaces and not any hax. Also, dudu's bubble is 4-B in size with a likely higher rating. idk where low 2-C came from 😭

2. 2-A tree? 😭 bro su's bubble is NOT 2-A seed of sumeru is just an observatory of infinite parrellel worlds it does NOT contain all parrellel worlds. what in the larp am i even reading
Voidnether said:
2. Kevin shaking the world is NOT a Tier 2 feat, what's a Tier 2 feat here is that his Forcefield is only destroyed after Kiana called up everyone on infinite parallel universes and all the players to defeat Deliverance Kevin in the end which you know his Forcefield here scales to his durability
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what is this supposed to prove? yea forcefields scale to durability thats completely different from IM2 and powernull
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
@SuperNova55555 don’t listen to this dude. This dude thought UES means EVERYONE in the verse needs to have the same energy and that Limited Energy System means that its for only a group of people 😭
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Tbf honkai energy can legit be removed but eh i just thought the “universal” part meant it was universally applied to all beings like Ki
 
Mbpoops said:
genuienly the some of most larp ive seen up there with every imaginary space being the same 💔
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I know he larps. At least I’m 99% sure he hasn’t read any of the VNs from what I’ve seen of his messages.

CastoriceTheFifth said:
@SuperNova55555 don’t listen to this dude. This dude thought UES means EVERYONE in the verse needs to have the same energy and that Limited Energy System means that its for only a group of people 😭
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I can read the page myself dw
 
Mbpoops said:
Tbf honkai energy can legit be removed but eh i just thought the “universal” part meant it was universally applied to all beings like Ki
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It js means it only applies to physical stats or pure energy. Basically not hax, which is what you’re tryna aim for
 
Mbpoops said:
Tbf honkai energy can legit be removed but eh i just thought the “universal” part meant it was universally applied to all beings like Ki
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Limited Energy System is where your abilities originate from a same power source and that you can invest similar energy to each other

If my energy source is Green light and I invest this energy to either a fireball attack or breath attack to destroy a rock then that’s Limited Energy System

Non physical energy system is where all my magical attacks scale to each other similarly in attack potency as any increase/decrease in my energy output corresponds to my magic attacks.

For example, if my Green light energy increases, so does the strength of all my magical attacks. If you siphon my shit, I become weaker in all magical attacks.

UES is where I can invest my energy output to my physicals and not just my magical attacks. If I were to ever lose my Green light energy then I physically become astronomically weaker. If my green light becomes stronger, so does my physicals.
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
Limited Energy System is where your abilities originate from a same power source and that you can invest similar energy to each other

If my energy source is Green light and I invest this energy to either a fireball attack or breath attack to destroy a rock then that’s Limited Energy System
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Hmm?
A Limited Energy System is a system in which supernatural or other feats, that are not based on the characters' body strengths, neither scale to physical statistics nor to all other non-physical powers the characters possess.
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This rlly just says that only physical powers scale to each other. Unless your comment is js very vague and I’m misunderstanding.
 
Mbpoops said:
because thats what irontomb used to nuke the universe
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you would have to explain every and i mean every statement that supported irontomb actually destroyed universe and why star dimmed and why we see literal galaxies and planets get restored instead of yk seeing bunch of data appear out of them.
Oh and like we also have EE? im pretty sure EE is used for UES, and the way IT hax actually affects entire realm is already enough.
but if we dont want tier 2 verse? go ahead
 
Mbpoops said:
this still doesnt make IM2 scale with UES
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You repeating the same thing over and over again without an explanation why won’t make your desired outcome true. Didn’t you learn from Lephy?

SuperNova55555 said:
Hmm?

This rlly just says that only physical powers scale to each other. Unless your comment is js very vague and I’m misunderstanding.
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Mine is a really dumbed down explanation. Heres a really in depth crt on how Demon Slayer gained an NPES and a half functioning UES

vsbattles.com

Demon Slayer: Blood Demon Arts as a Non-Physical Energy System

Introduction In this thread we’ll be examining why and how Blood Demons Arts, or BDAs for short, from Demon Slayer (Kimetsu no Yaiba), qualify as a Non-Physical Energy System (NPES), which is a sort of sub-type of Universal Energy System (UES). Additionally, we’ll discuss whether BDAs scale to...
vsbattles.com vsbattles.com

PedjaTarzan said:
Oh and like we also have EE? im pretty sure EE is used for UES
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Yeah EE hax is applicable to UES
 
PedjaTarzan said:
you would have to explain every and i mean every statement that supported irontomb actually destroyed universe and why star dimmed and why we see literal galaxies and planets get restored instead of yk seeing bunch of data appear out of them.
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It affects the data of it, causing it to dissolve. At the most extreme point, the only thing left is a bunch of consciousness.
 
PedjaTarzan said:
you would have to explain every and i mean every statement that supported irontomb actually destroyed universe and why star dimmed and why we see literal galaxies and planets get restored instead of yk seeing bunch of data appear out of them.
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i never said he didnt destroy the universe im just saying the hax he used doesnt apply to physicals
PedjaTarzan said:
Oh and like we also have EE? im pretty sure EE is used for UES, and the way IT hax actually affects entire realm is already enough.
but if we dont want tier 2 verse? go ahead
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i would prefer if it was "2-A with X abilitlity"
 
honestly aint gonna debate abt how did he destroy universe since this is jut going back to to times of debating phainon shit just for hoyo to actually confirm it
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
Yes and the crt includes ALL three of them because you have to prove the prior energy system before moving up to the next one and that crt is a good example
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Ill check it out then.

PedjaTarzan said:
honestly aint gonna debate abt how did he destroy universe since this is jut going back to to times of debating phainon shit just for hoyo to actually confirm it
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No we literally know exactly how it happens. He js infects all data in the universe, driving it towards Destruction
 
so if the hax can affect entire real space i dont see any issue of using it, espdxially since it includes EE that is accepted as UES on wiki
 
PedjaTarzan said:
so if the hax can affect entire real space i dont see any issue of using it, espdxially since it includes EE that is accepted as UES on wiki
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Deadass the common factor for the haxes is if its potency is dependent on the user energy output. If this isn’t the case we nuking Zeno’s Complex Multi physical attacks because all his feats are EE (powered by a UES)
 
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