Depredation | Hank (Madness Combat) vs Kamen Rider Geats | [0-0-0]

[Delusionaltx2]

Bored and feeling madness combat so here we go (will probably make this hank if it ends up being too stompy)

• Post apothesis hank with his 8-A rating is used
• Hank has access to his optional weapons
• Daybreak arc geets is used and will have access to all of his optional stuff but boost time is restricted
• Speed is equalized
• Fight takes place somewhere in nevada

He's the protagonist!!!:

He's the protagonist...:

Incon:

 

[Delusionaltx2]

bump

 

[Comiphorous]

Following.

Christoff has a very decent AP/Durability advantage (3.9x advantage, higher with his weaponry and forcefields)

Geats also seems to lack most resistances to the abilities of Dissonance, which can very much be an issue if Christoff decides to use it.

 

[TsukasayaEmmaDCD]

Ap doesn't matter since geats automatically gets stats equal

 

[Comiphorous]

Ap doesn't matter since geats automatically gets stats equal

Fun, then it really comes down to who's more skilled and who has better hax.

 

[Shadowslash125]

How much does Jesus spam Dissonance? Based on the abilities, it doesn't look like Geats can handle it at the moment (the next crt would change how spark fundamentally). So it comes down to Jesus' usage.
Second question would be how avoidable is Dissonance?

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Jebus iirc will lead with tac 50 no?

 

[Comiphorous]

Jebus iirc will lead with tac 50 no?

The Halo is a starting move for Jesus if there's a moderate amount of distance between them. Otherwise he'll start with sniper if they're absurdly far apart or will start with his revolver/sword if they're closer together.

 

[Comiphorous]

Second question would be how avoidable is Dissonance?

Dissonance's madness/mind manipulation works through eye contact.

All the other abilities require contact with the energy to go into affect.

 

[BERRIES555]

Fun, then it really comes down to who's more skilled and who has better hax.

Just looking at the profile, Ace has a massive lead in terms of skill. While Jesus does fight with people with possibly millions of year of experience, that’s just numbers with no proper context.

Ace is someone who is, unironically, the most skilled Rider in the verse. He’s fought against Saber tiered riders, of which includes Blades. Blades is someone who has the combined knowledge and experience of every member of the Sword of Logos, with each person being some of histories greatest swordsman and there being several hundred. He’s also able to predict movement of an opponent while they existed in a different flow of time.

Another thing that should be pointed out is their precognition. Ace upscales Z2, someone who can predict 200 trillion battle calculations per second. Z2’s ai is also advanced enough to outperform other ai’s in the verse like There, who was able to predict attacks from parallel timelines

 

[Delusionaltx2]

The Halo is a starting move for Jesus if there's a moderate amount of distance between them. Otherwise he'll start with sniper if they're absurdly far apart or will start with his revolver/sword if they're closer together.

I just remembered the gun doubles as both a heavy sniper and pistol

 

[BERRIES555]

Dissonance's madness/mind manipulation works through eye contact.

All the other abilities require contact with the energy to go into affect.

Direct eye contact or can it bypass something like a mask?

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Dissonance's madness/mind manipulation works through eye contact.

All the other abilities require contact with the energy to go into affect.

I forgot about this (I was mainly thinking about the atom separating beams)

Should I switch this to hank?

 

[BERRIES555]

Are we giving Ace Boost/Boost Time? It gives him a 3x and 30x amp respectively. If Jesus has an attack that seperated atoms, Ace unironically has the means to avoid them depending on how they fire

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Are we giving Ace Boost/Boost Time? It gives him a 3x and 30x amp respectively. If Jesus has an attack that seperated atoms, Ace unironically has the means to avoid them depending on how they fire

I forgot to add this but yes ace will have access to all of his optional equipment here (I was considering stuff like that when thinking of the matchup)

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Oh yeah another thing

This may sound like a bit of a weird question but considering kamen rider characters being one of those verses when it comes to having consistently high skill feats, would it be possible for me to give ace prior knowledge and then just have him do the entire fight with his eyes closed to deal with the madness hax?

 

[Comiphorous]

Just looking at the profile, Ace has a massive lead in terms of skill. While Jesus does fight with people with possibly millions of year of experience, that’s just numbers with no proper context.

It does have context. Those millions of years were done with constant training from a Generation 01, fighting waves and waves of enemies, being blown to pieces and murdered over and over again and resurrected to do it again and again until he was able to do it without dying at all. Imagine that over years and year and years. The Sleepwalkers use this training to constantly improve in combat in real time, and Jesus can take them on in hordes with little issue.

He can keep up with Hank evenly, someone who scares the same people with access to said training so badly that it keeps them up at night at just the thought of his existence.

He was able to fight Director Phobos, who is a confirmed Generation 01 who was able to take on Hank, Sanford, and Deimos all at the same time with no issue, with all of them having the scaling from above plus with Sanford possessing levels of tactical intuition that borders on mind-reading.

Ace is someone who is, unironically, the most skilled Rider in the verse. He’s fought against Saber tiered riders, of which includes Blades. Blades is someone who has the combined knowledge and experience of every member of the Sword of Logos, with each person being some of histories greatest swordsman and there being several hundred. He’s also able to predict movement of an opponent while they existed in a different flow of time.

Being the greatest swordsman in history is as much of a nothing statement as you believd the millions of years of experience was.

Predicting movement of an opponent while they existed in a different flow of time is basically impossible to compare to the rest of the feats listed. It's a hyperspecific skill that wouldn't be taken into account here, ignoring the fact other characters in-universe are capable fo predicting people's movements to a point it borders on mind-reading (Sanford)

 

[Comiphorous]

Direct eye contact or can it bypass something like a mask?

It's perception. He'd need proof that his mask can protect himself from something like that.

 

[BERRIES555]

Oh yeah another thing

This may sound like a bit of a weird question but considering kamen rider characters being one of those verses when it comes to having consistently high skill feats, would it be possible for me to give ace prior knowledge and then just have him do the entire fight with his eyes closed to deal with the madness hax?

Okay so, I’m currently not home so I can send scan. Someone else would have to do that. You can read up Ace’s previous matchups for a proper look. You’re basically just looking at someone who can predict attacks coming from impossible positions and angle, thats really the best way I can describe it without a scan (like I said, not home rn)

How does those atom separation beams form? Are they like regular beam attacks? Is if, Ace might have a field day with them. 3x passive amps with a 30x active amp is crazy. This is all stat values too, so he’s oneshoting with that 30x amp

 

[BERRIES555]

It's perception. He'd need proof that his mask can protect himself from something like that.

I wrote a massive response…..only for VSWiki to refresh and I lost everything……I’ll be back when I have my laptop…..

 

[Comiphorous]

I wrote a massive response…..only for VSWiki to refresh and I lost everything……I’ll be back when I have my laptop…..

Destroy VSBattle's mobile site.

 

[BERRIES555]

Lowkey, I ******* hate writing on mobile

 

[Comiphorous]

Lowkey, I ******* hate writing on mobile

I'm just taking the reason to hate on the mobile version of this site i hate it with a burning passion.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Okay so, I’m currently not home so I can send scan. Someone else would have to do that. You can read up Ace’s previous matchups for a proper look.

Alright

You’re basically just looking at someone who can predict attacks coming from impossible positions and angle, thats really the best way I can describe it without a scan (like I said, not home rn)

Tbf I'm pretty sure hank has some showings of doing as well

Doesn't he has other more complicated forms of precog tho? (Precoging timelines and stuff like that)

How does those atom separation beams form? Are they like regular beam attacks?

Yea (for the most part)

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Lowkey, I ******* hate writing on mobile

How many times did you try getting a scan only to get sent to a different thing?

It's been 2 for me so far (on this thread anyway)

 

[Comiphorous]

Yea (for the most part)

He can do it like this, an explosion around himself, tiny bolts which track the target.

many many ways he can do it.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

I wrote a massive response…..only for VSWiki to refresh and I lost everything……I’ll be back when I have my laptop…..

B-But sir- you can also choose to wait a fat 5 minutes for your words to load!

 

[Delusionaltx2]

He can do it like this, an explosion around himself, tiny bolts which track the target.

many many ways he can do it.

I swear I'm going to look at project Nexus someday because when did they give bro multiple variants of this

 

[Comiphorous]

I swear I'm going to look at project Nexus someday because when did they give bro multiple variants of this

The halo is powered by dissonance, so literally every single use of the halo has these effects. Jesus just happen to wanna aura farm on the engineer and vaporize them with a beam from his hands.

 

[BERRIES555]

How many times did you try getting a scan only to get sent to a different thing?

It's been 2 for me so far (on this thread anyway)

The page refreshed twice……mid writing

B-But sir- you can also choose to wait a fat 5 minutes for your words to load!

The words take 5 minutes to type with the delay.

 

[Shadowslash125]

I'll check up on this in a bit

 

[Shadowslash125]

Dissonance's madness/mind manipulation works through eye contact.

Aura in indeed deadly. Might be an end right from the get-go, unless being masked somehow like avoids the effects of it till he gets hit. Although, it's mainly the MM Type 2, yea?
Beyond text scans and one about people who are affected being barely able to talk, any other effects of MM Type 2 from the Dissonance? Reason why is cuz Ace might unironically be able to will through that with his supernatural willpower.

 

[Employe]

We probably should wait until dissonant reality gets an upgrade (it is going to receive stuff like logic and possibly conceptual manipulation among other things)

 

[Shadowslash125]

Geats' Spark Manipulation is getting the same treatment as well, so this would just be fruitless till both sides are up and running again.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Guess i'll just switch this to hank then

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Alright, switched

I'd use mag hank but he's a bit of a big back (not like normal hank isn't since he's f***ing 6'2 but thats besides the point)

 

[BERRIES555]

Alright so, Ace starts off with a 3x stat Ami via Desire Equalization and Boost’s passive.

Anything Hank has to start off?

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Alright so, Ace starts off with a 3x stat Ami via Desire Equalization and Boost’s passive.

Anything Hank has to start off?

Hank is gonna lead with a mix of guns and bladed weaponry since I have him access to all of his actual weapons here (he'll mainly start with guns from what i remember)

Idk about the active 30x speed amp but for the passive 3x speed amp he can probably make up for that with his perception amp

 

[Shadowslash125]

all of his optional stuff

Man, would be a shame if Hank ends up being forced to dance to Baby Shark before getting attacked without any hope of resistance.
Perhaps we make this purely just a gun fight with just standard equipment?

 

[BERRIES555]

Man, would be a shame if Hank ends up being forced to dance to Baby Shark before getting attacked without any hope of resistance.
Perhaps we make this purely just a gun fight with just standard equipment?

Daybreak Geats doesn't have access to anything ouside Boost and Mag

Hank is gonna lead with a mix of guns and bladed weaponry since I have him access to all of his actual weapons here (he'll mainly start with guns from what i remember)

Idk about the active 30x speed amp but for the passive 3x speed amp he can probably make up for that with his perception amp

How good is his gunwork? I can send over a clip of Ace's marksmanship if needed. Also, it's not JUST a speed amp. It's a stat amp. So he's 3x stronger in AP and like a thousand times stronger in LS. How good is his perception amps?