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Star Wars Discussion Thread Canon/Legends- Episode VI Return of the Threadi

Xavis10 said:
Yes and no. A dyad is more than a force bond, insofar as it has some weird unique "once in every few millennia" properties that are fueled by the Cosmic Force (like being "beyond time, space and logic", per that Book of Sith equivalent in canon that I forgot the name of).

So I'd assume what Palpatine's draining is the cosmic force fueling the dyad, as we know the "dyad itself" is there.

Now you may ask me if I think that makes sense, no I don't.
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Diade is part of Rey and Ben's life force.

It's yet another connection between the Force of the two individuals.
"The life force of your bond…a dyad in the Force. A power like life itself. Unseen for generations. And now, the power of two restores the one… true… Emperor!"
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Xavis10 said:
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I think this is support from UES? When Force Energy is taken away from them, they become physically weaker.
Epyriel said:
From the looks of it on the thread, feats showing similar energy output between different uses of the energy system shall be considered valid proof rather than just explicit statements or meters, so we just need to gather a whole bunch of feats for that in both continuities.

Off the top of my head, I remember that in the Hope trailer Satale was able to hold Malgus‘s Force-amplified lightsaber thrust with tutaminis just as readily as she did with her own lightsaber.

Maybe we should make a wiki collaboration thread to get people together to pool scans.
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Do you want me to send you scans and stuff and you do the blog?
 
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Star Wars UES Scan Collection Collaboration

In line with the recent staff thread regarding updating UES standards to specify requiring proof that different uses of the energy system in question can dedicate equal quantities of energy, I have made this thread to give a place for members to collaborate on gathering scans to substantiate and...
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About UES. How about Obi-Wan physically tearing Grievous's armour apart? The same Grevious who endured Obi-Wan's force push
We also have Force users tanking force pushes and lightning (Palpatine tanking his lightning, Anakin and Obi-Wan getting blasted apart by their force push during Mustafar, Yoda recovering from Palpatine's lightning)

Cal could also fight monsters that can tank his force attacks and survive hits from them.

Simply put, we have feats of Force users enduring force-based attacks. There is also the whole Grevious armor thing. I think that's enough proof of them physically scaling.
 
Doggo said:
About UES. How about Obi-Wan physically tearing Grievous's armour apart? The same Grevious who endured Obi-Wan's force push
We also have Force users tanking force pushes and lightning (Palpatine tanking his lightning, Anakin and Obi-Wan getting blasted apart by their force push during Mustafar, Yoda recovering from Palpatine's lightning)

Cal could also fight monsters that can tank his force attacks and survive hits from them.

Simply put, we have feats of Force users enduring force-based attacks. There is also the whole Grevious armor thing. I think that's enough proof of them physically scaling.
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Feel free to help send scans in the thread!
 
Vader vs. this guy? What do you think?
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Julius Juukulius

Julius Juukulius is Anastasia Hoshin's knight, and a member of the Royal Guard of the kingdom of Lugunica. Tier: 7-B Name: Julius Juukulius, The Finest of Knights Origin: Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu Gender: Male Age: 21 (Arc 3), 22 (Arc 5+) Classification: Human, Spirit Knight Powers...
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Phsccarvalho said:
Vader vs. this guy? What do you think?
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Julius Juukulius

Julius Juukulius is Anastasia Hoshin's knight, and a member of the Royal Guard of the kingdom of Lugunica. Tier: 7-B Name: Julius Juukulius, The Finest of Knights Origin: Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu Gender: Male Age: 21 (Arc 3), 22 (Arc 5+) Classification: Human, Spirit Knight Powers...
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I fear the Re Zero Skill slop. Y'all gonna gotta be ready
 
I really wanted to pit Vader against someone from Deltarune.

But I'm ignoring that because I don't want to deal with the implications of "Force = Spirit = Consciousness" in VS Threads.
 
Phsccarvalho said:
I really wanted to pit Vader against someone from Deltarune.

But I'm ignoring that because I don't want to deal with the implications of "Force = Spirit = Consciousness" in VS Threads.
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I know I did that, but like, I'm embarrassed to say in a VS thread "how spirit = Force, technically the spirit in Star Wars is CM2." I have a feeling someone is going to pick on this (because the blog post I wrote could be explained better if it had more screenshots), and I’m going to have a headache trying to counter that.
 
Doggo said:
War it is then. Let's goooo (yeah this is gonna be annoying lmao)
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Julius also has Dura Neg.

That is, technically they could both kill each other with a single blow.

But I don't know if Julius has any kind of attack that ignores distance. Hmmm.

The original plan was Ram or Rem, but I think Vader far surpasses them.
 
The Bleeding and Purification process is a form of empathic hax, right? But is the Corruption and Purification process corruption hax and purification hax?

Because, like, the crystals are alive in the Force, so injecting them with anger, fear, rage causes them to corrupt themselves to the dark side due to the Force's alignment mechanics. So I guess we would only index it as empathic hax?
 
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This is a mistake (Darth Vader vs Satoru Gojo)

Yeah. This might be interesting or....a stomp Strongest Keys Speed Unequal (Yes) The Chosen One The Honored One The Dark Lord of the Sith: @Kazuma_kuwabara @Theglassman12 @Rex_Eckles @Xavis10 @EnderLord8 @KnightDark_990 @Ruby_R_Dracula @Ultimate-Rex1 The Strongest Sorcerer of Today...
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Regarding the range of the TK that we have on the range.

Personally, I think it's more based on perception than a fixed range, like "ignoring distance."

Like, I think Jedi/Sith can use TK on something as long as they can perceive that thing, either visually or through extrasensory perception.

Just look at some Force Choke scenes from Vader and Sidious. As far as I remember, they're only used at long distances when they're seeing the target as a hologram, or in Vader's case, hearing the target through a communicator.

I think physical distance itself isn't a limiting factor, but rather the fact of perceiving the target.

Well, what do you think about this?
 
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Phsccarvalho said:
Regarding the range of the TK that we have on the back.

Personally, I think it's more based on perception than a fixed range, like "ignoring distance."

Like, I think Jedi/Sith can use TK on something as long as they can perceive that thing, either visually or through extrasensory perception.

Just look at some Force Choke scenes from Vader and Sidious. As far as I remember, they're only used at long distances when they're seeing the target as a hologram, or in Vader's case, hearing the target through a communicator.

I think physical distance itself isn't a limiting factor, but rather the fact of perceiving the target.

Well, what do you think about this?
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Yeah I agree.
 
Phsccarvalho said:
Well, what do you think about this?
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Depends on which application of TK we're talking about. A force push, naturally, won't cover thousands of light years. A force choke does. So yes, force TK "ignores distance" but it's contigent on how it's applied.
 
Xavis10 said:
Depends on which application of TK we're talking about. A force push, naturally, won't cover thousands of light years. A force choke does. So yes, force TK "ignores distance" but it's contigent on how it's applied.
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Force Push is like launching a wave of telekinetic power/energy. I think that one has a limited range.

But things like manipulating an object or person itself, I think it's possible.
 
I think this text indicates that.

Especially the 3/4 paragraph which says that if you reach someone with the Force, that person isn't far away, even if they're in another country.

But I don't know if that would be enough for an update to the range of TK.

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Epyriel, whenever you read this, do you have an idea when your thread's coming? Asking to know to what degree I can participate due to uni&stuff.
 
Xavis10 said:
Epyriel, whenever you read this, do you have an idea when your thread's coming? Asking to know to what degree I can participate due to uni&stuff.
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Still got 2 calcs I need to get evaluated (as well as preferably this one of @Hagane_no_Saiyajin so I can give Plagueis his ED via Force nexus manipulation), but I have it mostly written at this point (just need to add a few more scans).

Although there is the question of the what’s going on with the UES staff thread which would preferably be wrapped up before I post it so the scaling section doesn’t get derailed.

So like hopefully everything is done within a couple weeks, but could easily be longer depending on how long it takes to get the last calc evaluations and for the UES stuff to be settled.
 
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