Captain Marvel (Marvel Cinematic Universe) vs Wonder Woman (DC Extended Universe)

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Carol: Nonynho, Rex_Eckles, Ztesrxgdfjcvgkbh, MannyQ361, Arkansalter2, Lloydblitzed, LegendariumOfLies

Diana: Addipuss, Hacigeralt

Rules

• Both in High 5-A
• Carol from The Marvels is used
• Diana from Post-Awakening is used
• The speed is equal: Both in Relativistic+
• Lifting Strength: Carol scales to Class P and Diana scales to Class T
• The battle takes place in Wakanda

 

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[Addipuss]

tbh from i seen diana take it.. for 2 reasons skill few reasons 1. while marvel is gidted as skilled us pilot and being skilled enough to defeat twenty of Talos' best Skrull soldiers while handcuffed and unable to use her photon blasts however diana is genius (Has a computer-like brain. An excellent warrior and scholar with many years of battle training and tutoring by the Amazons. Can speak hundreds of languages) she at min 900 year old as of batman vs superman dawn of justice atleast give that battle iq and experience that pretty overkill ontop of there ap is near= and speed is = too since put speed if come who has better experience and skill.. and let be honest 900 year old with many many years of battle training>while being us pilot is something some self defnesive skills as well pilot can defend self and use guns but not compare a and her beams wont much with armor as magic Bracelets . They are incredibly durable, capable of deflecting even a tremendously powerful and destructive energy attack from the monster Doomsday, creating a massive wave of energy outwards. and ofc her eagle shield point is = speed and ap and come dow nto hax and weapons etc and ofc experience she takes experience by long 900+ years of battle training and exprience with other warriors that

• Law Manipulation (Gods can manipulate universal truths) dont know can do like gods can she like her lasso is but as on her pre awekning ablity she has it and last 2 which engery would be an issue because her armor etc do what she did to ares
• Energy Projection/Absorption/Redirection & Limited Electricity Manipulation (Absorbed and redirected lightning) that and her , Information Analysis (Said numerous time to be the best warrior in the DCEU, is said to be an expert martial artist and to have knowledge of any form of combat, the most skilled amazon, beat the best brawler of her people, can anticipate every possible attack by feeling her opponent's muscles moving and pulsating) and all pre awkening and ofc flight not an issue so anything and she has Telekinesis so with everytihng her list.. its pretty diana take this andto feel bit more one sided match even = no way marvel stand anything someone face gods and experience and battle iq going all and any form of combat so to me this feel one match tbh marvel best feats is
• Matter Manipulation (Molecular) and Deconstruction (Survived a brief exposure to the Power Stone,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Captain_Marvel_(Marvel_Cinematic_Universe)#cite_note-AE-9"><span>[</span>9<span>]</span></a> whose energy churns through all the molecules of the body and that just Resistance to: and While at peak confidence, she flew through Hala's sun and reignited it, something she didn't think was possible for her before but 2 best feats she no hax and that wont matter same ap and speed and efven do rem ove her ap = wonder woman has it tbh only think might change is her mftl+ speed but tyaht flight speed not reaction etc so not help so even = speed and ap not doing anything so tbh one sided if not diana taking this im sorry profie alone easy to see how one sided it is tbh biggest factor 900+ years of battle exprience which is ******* joke

 

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tbh from i seen diana take it.. for 2 reasons skill few reasons 1. while marvel is gidted as skilled us pilot and being skilled enough to defeat twenty of Talos' best Skrull soldiers while handcuffed and unable to use her photon blasts however diana is genius (Has a computer-like brain. An excellent warrior and scholar with many years of battle training and tutoring by the Amazons. Can speak hundreds of languages) she at min 900 year old as of batman vs superman dawn of justice atleast give that battle iq and experience that pretty overkill ontop of there ap is near= and speed is = too since put speed if come who has better experience and skill.. and let be honest 900 year old with many many years of battle training>while being us pilot is something some self defnesive skills as well pilot can defend self and use guns but not compare a and her beams wont much with armor as magic Bracelets . They are incredibly durable, capable of deflecting even a tremendously powerful and destructive energy attack from the monster Doomsday, creating a massive wave of energy outwards. and ofc her eagle shield point is = speed and ap and come dow nto hax and weapons etc and ofc experience she takes experience by long 900+ years of battle training and exprience with other warriors that

• Law Manipulation (Gods can manipulate universal truths) dont know can do like gods can she like her lasso is but as on her pre awekning ablity she has it and last 2 which engery would be an issue because her armor etc do what she did to ares
• Energy Projection/Absorption/Redirection & Limited Electricity Manipulation (Absorbed and redirected lightning) that and her , Information Analysis (Said numerous time to be the best warrior in the DCEU, is said to be an expert martial artist and to have knowledge of any form of combat, the most skilled amazon, beat the best brawler of her people, can anticipate every possible attack by feeling her opponent's muscles moving and pulsating) and all pre awkening and ofc flight not an issue so anything and she has Telekinesis so with everytihng her list.. its pretty diana take this andto feel bit more one sided match even = no way marvel stand anything someone face gods and experience and battle iq going all and any form of combat so to me this feel one match tbh marvel best feats is
• Matter Manipulation (Molecular) and Deconstruction (Survived a brief exposure to the Power Stone,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Captain_Marvel_(Marvel_Cinematic_Universe)#cite_note-AE-9"><span>[</span>9<span>]</span></a> whose energy churns through all the molecules of the body and that just Resistance to: and While at peak confidence, she flew through Hala's sun and reignited it, something she didn't think was possible for her before but 2 best feats she no hax and that wont matter same ap and speed and efven do rem ove her ap = wonder woman has it tbh only think might change is her mftl+ speed but tyaht flight speed not reaction etc so not help so even = speed and ap not doing anything so tbh one sided if not diana taking this im sorry profie alone easy to see how one sided it is tbh biggest factor 900+ years of battle exprience which is ******* joke

So, are you going to vote for Diana?

 

[Rex_Eckles]

Carol’s combat speed was downgraded to Subsonic, her relativistic+ now just applies to her travel speed.

 

[Nonynho]

I mean, Diana can have those 900 years of experience but she does pretty much nothing with it, skillwise Kal-el no...

Carol has a tier above in LS and ~3,4x AP (7.13 Quettatons vs ~2.1 Quettatons) while also healing better and absorbing a bunch too

I'll be voting her

 

[Rex_Eckles]

I mean, Diana can have those 900 years of experience but she does pretty much nothing with it, skillwise Kal-el no...

Carol has a tier above in LS and ~3,4x AP (7.13 Quettatons vs ~2.1 Quettatons) while also healing better and absorbing a bunch too

I'll be voting her

And, per speed equalization rules, her travel speed blitzes Diana.

 

[MochOath]

subsonic combat with rela flight doesnt make sense unless acceleration takes a while

 

[Nonynho]

subsonic combat with rela flight doesnt make sense unless acceleration takes a while

still means that Carol has the likelyhood of giving Diana the Flash treatment
i swear i thought about this joke before remembering that Ezra Miller is a weirdo

 

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I mean, Diana can have those 900 years of experience but she does pretty much nothing with it, skillwise Kal-el no...

Carol has a tier above in LS and ~3,4x AP (7.13 Quettatons vs ~2.1 Quettatons) while also healing better and absorbing a bunch too

I'll be voting her

And, per speed equalization rules, her travel speed blitzes Diana.

So they both vote for Carol?

 

[Nonynho]

So they both vote for Carol?

i do

 

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i do

Counted

 

[Rex_Eckles]

So they both vote for Carol?

Yes.

 

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Yes.

Counted

 

[Rex_Eckles]

subsonic combat with rela flight doesnt make sense unless acceleration takes a while

I wanted to raise an objection during the CRT, but I knew it would’ve been fruitless.

 

[Ztesrxgdfjcvgkbh]

Carol FRA

 

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Carol FRA

Counted

 

[MannyQ361]

Voting Carol fra.

 

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Voting Carol fra.

Counted

 

[Arkansalter2]

Not only can Carol fly (which is a massive no-no), but she outranges massively. Not only that, she has the AP and LS advantage. Comfortably giving this to Carol.
Carol, low diff.

 

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Not only can Carol fly (which is a massive no-no), but she outranges massively. Not only that, she has the AP and LS advantage. Comfortably giving this to Carol.
Carol, low diff.

Counted

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Carol FRA

 

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Carol FRA

Counted

 

[Lloydblitzed]

subsonic combat with rela flight doesnt make sense unless acceleration takes a while

Makes as much sense as Andrew currently speedblitzing Tom and Tobey's Spiderman

 

[MochOath]

people more knowledgeable shouldve brought that up whenever stuff got downgraded ig

 

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people more knowledgeable shouldve brought that up whenever stuff got downgraded ig

Who do you vote for?

 

[MochOath]

Who do you vote for?

Myself

 

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Myself

XD

 

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Myself

It was good and it made me laugh. But seriously, who are you voting for?

 

[MochOath]

noone
I dont really have a horse in the race

 

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noone
I dont really have a horse in the race

Ok

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

Carol FRA. Travel Speed Blitz + AP+LS Advantage

 

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Carol FRA. Travel Speed Blitz + AP+LS Advantage

Counted

 

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We already have 7 votes for a character, now the grace period begins.

 

[Hacigeralt]

I vote Wonder Woman here.


Carol’s speed is being applied very loosely in this matchup. Her profile currently rates her at Subsonic combat/reaction speed, with Relativistic+ only applying to flight/travel, whereas Diana has Relativistic+ combat and reaction speed outright. So equalizing speed here does not really help both sides equally; it benefits Carol more by removing Diana’s natural speed advantage and giving Carol combat parity she does not normally have.


With both already at High 5-A, the deciding factors should be skill, reactions in actual combat, and experience, not just raw power. Diana is clearly superior in those areas. She is a highly trained Amazon warrior with centuries of battlefield experience and much stronger close-combat showings overall.


So overall, I do not see much reason to favor Carol here. Under the current ruleset, Diana has the better combat-based speed interpretation, the better skill set, and the far better experience.


Wonder Woman FRA.

 

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I vote Wonder Woman here.


Carol’s speed is being applied very loosely in this matchup. Her profile currently rates her at Subsonic combat/reaction speed, with Relativistic+ only applying to flight/travel, whereas Diana has Relativistic+ combat and reaction speed outright. So equalizing speed here does not really help both sides equally; it benefits Carol more by removing Diana’s natural speed advantage and giving Carol combat parity she does not normally have.


With both already at High 5-A, the deciding factors should be skill, reactions in actual combat, and experience, not just raw power. Diana is clearly superior in those areas. She is a highly trained Amazon warrior with centuries of battlefield experience and much stronger close-combat showings overall.


So overall, I do not see much reason to favor Carol here. Under the current ruleset, Diana has the better combat-based speed interpretation, the better skill set, and the far better experience.


Wonder Woman FRA.

Counted

 

[Hacigeralt]

Counted

To be clear, my main point is that Carol’s speed is being used too loosely here. Relativistic+ on her profile applies to travel/flight, not standard combat speed, while Diana’s Relativistic+ is directly combat/reaction based. So equal speed is clearly more beneficial to Carol.

 

[Rex_Eckles]

To be clear, my main point is that Carol’s speed is being used too loosely here. Relativistic+ on her profile applies to travel/flight, not standard combat speed, while Diana’s Relativistic+ is directly combat/reaction based. So equal speed is clearly more beneficial to Carol.

Which is why equalization would make her travel speed blitz Wonder Woman.

 

[Hacigeralt]

Which is why equalization would make her travel speed blitz Wonder Woman.

That is kind of the problem. Speed equalization is not supposed to justify a blitz, especially when Carol’s Relativistic+ rating is tied to travel speed rather than standard combat speed.
Diana’s Relativistic+ is directly combat/reaction based, so the issue is not “Carol can blitz with travel speed,” but that equalization is helping Carol much more by smoothing over the distinction between her movement speed and her actual close-quarters combat speed.Especially when Carol’s current profile still rates her combat/reaction speed as Subsonic.

 

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The votes have been counted! Only 7 votes are needed for a character, and we have them! We have 9 votes. With a total of 7 votes to 2, we have a winner!

Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls!
The winner of this matchup, with a total of 7 votes, is...

Carol Danvers
And the grace period has ended; no more entries will be accepted from now on.

The official winner is Carol!