Heather Mason vs Aqua | Silent Hill vs Konosuba | 0-0-0 | Divine Tournament Round 2 Match 1

[Ninkan12]

Speed Equalised

Heather Mason - 9-B
Attack Potency: 5,991,041.2 J
Lifting Strength: 1529.5743 kgf
Durability: 5,991,041.2 J

Aqua - Archpriest - (Buffs and Sacred Create Water restricted so, 9-B)
Attack Potency: 413,056.264188 J
Lifting Strength: At least Peak Human
Durability: 413,056.264188 J

Battle takes place at Fourtrees (cats not included)

Heather:
Aqua:
Incon:

I hope this isn't a stomp but it might be there is a real big AP gap. Tournament requires it lol

 

[Poketmonsrs]

I’d say that Aqua’s best bet is AR to put Heather’s AP against her, and stall with FC. Maybe RW, Spatial manip, or Curse manip, but idk enough about those. Biggest problem for Aqua is her stupidity and incredibly bad luck. Aqua will probably just slip and fall, letting Heather tap her, turning her to dust on the spot.
If anyone else can make any actual arguments for Aqua go ahead

 

[Nonynho]

wow, Aqua's profile is a mess and a half

Well, if Aqua starts being whiny, complaining and etc, and Heather is a girl that has seen some of the most horrible stuff imaginable...Who has a shotgun in hand... I think Heather has more than a dent here

 

[Ninkan12]

Do we think this is a stomp

 

[Nonynho]

Do we think this is a stomp

i'd give a day or two for any Aqua supporter to show up
If not, then we declare such due to Aqua's known IC behaviour

 

[Ninkan12]

i'd give a day or two for any Aqua supporter to show up
If not, then we declare such due to Aqua's known IC behaviour

I’d say that Aqua’s best bet is AR to put Heather’s AP against her, and stall with FC. Maybe RW, Spatial manip, or Curse manip, but idk enough about those. Biggest problem for Aqua is her stupidity and incredibly bad luck. Aqua will probably just slip and fall, letting Heather tap her, turning her to dust on the spot.
If anyone else can make any actual arguments for Aqua go ahead

A Heather vote for now?

 

[Poketmonsrs]

I’ll wait for an actual Konosuba supporter before voting

 

[Ninkan12]

Bloodlust would do wonders for Aqua lol

 

[Nonynho]

Bloodlust would do wonders for Aqua lol

it'd have to be applied for both and that wouldn't do wonders for her poor knees

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

I’ve always found it interesting that supporters of certain characters in VS threads aren’t always invited to participate, even when they’re clearly listed in both the supporters list and the knowledgeable members list for those verses.

 

[ShionAH]

Aqua is dumb, but she is actually not that bad in combat especially after later parts of the series. She even defeated Kazuma who is a tactical genius once. Although I am not claiming she can hold her own in actual battle at all especially compared to Heather who I believe should be way more capable.

I can defend her for the matchup if yall need it

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

I think this match is a clear stomp, since Heather is about 14.5x times stronger than Aqua.

 

[Ninkan12]

I’ve always found it interesting that supporters of certain characters in VS threads aren’t always invited to participate, even when they’re clearly listed in both the supporters list and the knowledgeable members list for those verses.

I actually messaged Shion abt it lol

 

[Poketmonsrs]

Aqua is dumb, but she is actually not that bad in combat especially after later parts of the series. She even defeated Kazuma who is a tactical genius once. Although I am not claiming she can hold her own in actual battle at all especially compared to Heather who I believe should be way more capable.

I can defend her for the matchup if yall need it

Sure, go ahead

 

[Ninkan12]

Aqua is dumb, but she is actually not that bad in combat especially after later parts of the series. She even defeated Kazuma who is a tactical genius once. Although I am not claiming she can hold her own in actual battle at all especially compared to Heather who I believe should be way more capable.

I can defend her for the matchup if yall need it

I think it's more of a 'would aqua realistically be smart enough to do this:'

I’d say that Aqua’s best bet is AR to put Heather’s AP against her, and stall with FC. Maybe RW, Spatial manip, or Curse manip, but idk enough about those. Biggest problem for Aqua is her stupidity and incredibly bad luck. Aqua will probably just slip and fall, letting Heather tap her, turning her to dust on the spot.
If anyone else can make any actual arguments for Aqua go ahead

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

I actually messaged Shion abt it lol

But you didn’t message me, even though about 99% of the Silent Hill pages on this wiki were created by me.

 

[Ninkan12]

But you didn’t message me, even though about 99% of the Silent Hill pages on this wiki were created by me.

I didn't actually know that my apologies!

 

[ShionAH]

Do you want to know how bad her profile is? She already scales to an accepted 9 MJ calculation that's not on her profile...

 

[Nonynho]

But you didn’t message me, even though about 99% of the Silent Hill pages on this wiki were created by me.

i would've definetely called you too, if i knew that info

 

[Oiguana2701]

I think this match is a clear stomp, since Heather is about 14.5x times stronger than Aqua.

Yeah. Heather also has an advantage in AP, so I don't really know how we could possibly make this a fair match.

 

[ShionAH]

I don't really know how we could possibly make this a fair match.

We could make a CRT to add the accepted calculation, which would make Aqua 2x stronger as far as I can tell?

 

[Nonynho]

We could make a CRT to add the accepted calculation, which would make Aqua 2x stronger as far as I can tell?

well, 7x is still barely a stomp so...

 

[Oiguana2701]

I’ve always found it interesting that supporters of certain characters in VS threads aren’t always invited to participate, even when they’re clearly listed in both the supporters list and the knowledgeable members list for those verses.

I feel like the knowledgeable members list is kinda of useless as of right now, as most members barely use it even if the members in it are still active. More people should use it in these situations

 

[Ninkan12]

We could make a CRT to add the accepted calculation, which would make Aqua 2x stronger as far as I can tell?

I think a CRT is needed irrespective of this thread, but for the tournament I suppose whether people think the AP increase would change it from a stomp

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

I didn't actually know that my apologies!

It’s okay, I understand that almost nobody uses those lists anyway, no worries.

By the way, I’m also a Konosuba fan, but I think using Aqua here could be considered a hax stomp too. She has a lot of abilities, whereas Heather only has a lantern and a stun gun.

 

[ShionAH]

I’m also a Konosuba fan

W

She has a lot of abilities, whereas Heather only has a lantern and a stun gun.

But yeah... if Aqua does take it serious she can be terrifying. She would also deflect the stun gun

 

[Ninkan12]

Unfortunately British people like me can't access Imgur

 

[Ninkan12]

It’s okay, I understand that almost nobody uses those lists anyway, no worries.

By the way, I’m also a Konosuba fan, but I think using Aqua here could be considered a hax stomp too. She has a lot of abilities, whereas Heather only has a lantern and a stun gun.

So an AP stomp in Heather's favour and a hax stomp in Aqua's favour. I'm confused who to advance in the tournament lol

 

[ShionAH]

Unfortunately British people like me can't access Imgur

I gotcha

 

[Ninkan12]

I gotcha

 

[ShionAH]

So an AP stomp in Heather's favour

Again, it's really not. Like its literally an accepted calculation, all we have to do is add it with a CRT. This is why I dislike using such outdated profiles, stuff like this is a pain in the ahh

 

[Ninkan12]

Again, it's really not. Like its literally an accepted calculation, all we have to do is add it with a CRT. This is why I dislike using such outdated profiles, stuff like this is a pain in the ahh

For the purposes of this thread and tournament I'll use the 9 megajoule value then
Does everyone agree it's a hax stomp?

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

But yeah... if Aqua does take it serious she can be terrifying. She would also deflect the stun gun

Not to discredit my Heather, but Aqua’s hax is really broken, not to mention things like reality warping, teleportation, spatial manipulation, telepathy, magic, soul manipulation, curse manipulation, biological manipulation, probability manipulation, darkness manipulation, death manipulation, etc. Heather has no way to counter that, and many of Aqua’s justifications still need scans and better explanations.

So yeah, this is a full-on hax stomp.

 

[Nonynho]

Would Aqua take it seriously from the start?

 

[Ninkan12]

It depends how Aqua reacts to SBA

Would Aqua take it seriously from the start?

"Each character will view their opponents as enemies, who they have to assume wish to cause them severe harm such that losing could have any range of dire consequences. The characters will assume their opponents have not been forced into battle. They are assumed to have decided from free will to fight and are not excused by a just cause, difficult times or otherwise exonerating circumstances. Furthermore, the situation is assumed one where the opponents are not protected by social norms or consequences, such as being a civilian protected by law."

 

[Nonynho]

At this point i'm starting to think i'm too unlucky to partake in tournaments, the only one i got close to winning (and indeed won) was my own and because outta nowhere people disappeared from it smh

 

[ShionAH]

I agree Aqua likely wins because she counters everything Heather can do, debuffs her and buffs herself and etc.

Now on the other hand I have to be fair, I am pretty sure the insane stuff like EE or Soul Manipulation are specifically on "evil" beings, which Heather isn't. Additionally some of her hax are really minor and come from neat party tricks. But I never read the novels so I might be wrong on this if she showcased this hax later on too.

 

[Ninkan12]

I agree Aqua likely wins because she counters everything Heather can do, debuffs her and buffs herself and etc.

Now on the other hand I have to be fair, I am pretty sure the insane stuff like EE or Soul Manipulation are specifically on "evil" beings, which Heather isn't. Additionally some of her hax are really minor and come from neat party tricks. But I never read the novels so I might be wrong on this if she showcased this hax later on too.

Isn't heather like the spawn of satan or something or other

 

[ShionAH]

I don't know the profile said Holy Girl, if she has a demon thing this is a mega stomp. Aqua literally goes crazy, her cowardness fly out the window when she sees an undead/unholy being

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Isn't heather like the spawn of satan or something or other

Not exactly, but you’re not too far off.

Heather Mason is actually the reincarnation of Alessa Gillespie, a girl who was used by a cult in an attempt to birth their god. Because of that, Heather carries part of that “god” entity inside her.