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This thread would fix some outdated issues in Ben 10, since some things was changes in these days/months. I'm working on it since beginning of 2026. Thx to @Lort15 & @Hellformer and @GeneralSol16 for help in this crt
1. Mana page fixing and remove outdated
2. Simple Tier changes and upgrades
3. Ben 10 Team + Intelligence updates
1. Mana page fixing and remove outdated
Changes:
Changes of abilities:
- Add Sorcerer Physiology
- New abilities (with add all abilities who get accepted in old threads: here and here)
- Remove WOG and removed scans
- Remove Pure Mana and instead add it to Basic Mana
- Abstract Existence (Type 1 [Conceptual & Text]; Mana is a hidden natural essence that permeates everything and the universe itself. It is the substance that powers magic, a concept defined as knowing the true names of things, which grants power over them, as well as the ability to influence or reshape the universe. )
- Add Extrasensory Perception to Enhanced Senses (Mana users can see someone's aura to determine whether they are lying or telling the truth.)
- Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1; Mana users can control over a true name of thing itself, which influence and reshape reality. When a being’s true name is altered, every documented account of that being, whether written, is changed as well.) [Conceptual stuff was accepted before, but this CRT is meant to update outdated information]
- Intangibility & Pseudo-Teleportation (Elemental [Type 4 & 5]: Mana users can transform themselves into gas or air to teleport into another place)
- Selective Intangible attacks (Elemental [Type 8] & Non-Physical: Mana blasts can phase through the ground. It also phase through beings. Mana can also phase through beings and building.)
- Invisibility for Forcefield Creation (In Ben 10 vs. Negative 10: Part 1", Mana shield stated as "invisible force". Later in Omniverse, it shown that their forcefield are invisible.)
- Intangibility Negation & Non-Physical Interaction (Intangibility [Dimensional]: Mana can interact and nullify Esoterica's dimensional travel powers, who allows parts of their body to slip into the between two dimensions, making them seemingly "phase" through physical objects and reality itself.)
- Telepathy (1 Layer; Mana user can use telepathy to connect with other beings. Mana users, like Gwen can read and see Kevin's memories, who can resist Servantis' mind reading.)
- Information Analysis (1 Layer; Mana users can read aura to know a lot of things about him, like how he works, if he's lying, or if he's evil and dangerous. Mana users can use Mana Sensor to know if there anyone was affected by spells, mind control, or something else. It seen in "Ultimate Aggregor", Users can read NRG's suit, which it seen before can resist Mana Sensor.)
- Abstract Existence (Type 1 [Conceptual & Text]; Anodites are spirits, a life energy of all nature. They exist as one with cosmic mana, being non-physical beings that are embodiments of fundamental concept.)
- Inorganic Physiology (Type 1; Rock Monsters are "Rock Creatures". They are shown not to need organs, they only need mana. For example, when Kevin absorbed the life-energy from the Rock Monsters, it immediately killed them and shattered them into pieces without showing any organs or blood.)
To:
- Clairvoyance (Mana users can sense or locate where people are<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-Destroy_All_Aliens-12"><span>[</span>12<span>]</span></a>.)
- Clairvoyance (Enhanced Sight; Mana users can detect someone's mana as a form of dowsing, allowing them to track them down. Psychic Navigation; Mana users can find out someone's location by making a small ball which shown for them a mental map of the surrounding area and the area's contents. Visual Linking; Mana users can know someone's location by connecting their mind with him. Mana users can link their minds with another person's mind, allowing them to see the past of this person and track him.)
To (remove Age Manip):
- Self-Age Manipulation & Immortality( Type1; Anodites are technically biologically immortal, as she is able to manipulate her crafted body's age at will, and Verdona comment on how she supposed in "human time" she hadn't seen her son in a while further hinted at her race's extended lifespan.)
- Immortality (Type1; It stated that Anodite are pure energy, an magical force shown to be not affect by age acceleration, and even Verdona comment on how she supposed in "human time" she hadn't seen her son in a while further hinted at her race's extended lifespan.)
To:Life Manipulation, Soul Manipulation, Mind Manipulation & Magic (Any sapient species can potentially learn to manipulate mana, an life energy,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-What_Are_Little_Girls_Made_Of?-29"><span>[</span>29<span>]</span></a> essence<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-In_Charm's_Way-8"><span>[</span>8<span>]</span></a><a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-Fused-30"><span>[</span>30<span>]</span></a>, soul<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-Enemy_of_My_Frenemy-11"><span>[</span>11<span>]</span></a> and mind<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-The_Creature_From_Beyond-26"><span>[</span>26<span>]</span></a><a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-The_End_of_an_Era-31"><span>[</span>31<span>]</span></a> for every being in the universe. It is tied directly to a person's being, allowing one to control magic)
- Life Manipulation, Soul Manipulation, Mind Manipulation, Energy Manipulation & Magic (Mana is an invisible aura, life, soul, mind, energy field, natural energy, as well as an essence found in everything. It is the energy of the universe—an energy that permeates all of nature, being found in everything from aliens to humans to plants. Mana is what powers magic; it is the substance of magic, the secret true name of things, and it has power over them.)
- Limited Matter Manipulation (Molecular; Mana is a powerful burst of energy to loosen a gateway's ionic bonds at a molecular level<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-From_Hedorium_to_Eternity-54"><span>[</span>54<span>]</span></a>.)
These two will be changed to passive effects, considering that Mana is a high-quality energy described as being capable of loosening a gateway's ionic bonds at a molecular level and causing malfunctions in technology.
- Technology Manipulation (1 Layers, possibly 2 Layers; Mana can passively malfunctions in Omnitrix and the rest of the technology. Mana can passively malfunctions in Ultimatrix, which make Ben back to Human form<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-The_Ultimate_Sacrifice-15"><span>[</span>15<span>]</span></a>)
It's from deleted scan
- Ice Manipulation (User can created snow.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-PUTDDTW-55"><span>[</span>55<span>]</span></a>)
Just remove WOG statement due to new ruleAnodites are a free-spirited race of humanoid Mana beings from the planet Anodyne. Anodites are the best users of mana, as any sapient species can potentially learn to manipulate mana through study and practice. While anyone can learn to harness mana, Anodites, a race of "energy beings", are entirely comprised of mana and thus have a strong innate capacity for manipulating it and have more abilities than any other user of mana and most of their abilities don't need spells:
- Subjective Reality (It states that "The charms seem to react to Gwen's emotional desires - like wanting to embarrass Ben". Later, in "Lucky Girl", it states that the combined power/mana of the charms of bazel can alter reality, including making the book's spells real, this means mana can make imaginary to become real.)
All of these abilities should be removed since it's from deleted scan (this scan).Supernatural Willpower (Mana depends on the emotional of a user<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-PUTDDTW-55"><span>[</span>55<span>]</span></a>, if their will become more stronger, the mana would be became more responsive to them, shown when Charmcaster was able to destroy her castle through anger<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-Couples_Retreat-27"><span>[</span>27<span>]</span></a>, Gwen was able to broke free from Ultimate Kevin's absorption and pain effects through anger<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-Absolute_Power:_Part_2-45"><span>[</span>45<span>]</span></a>, and Darkstar was able to destroy all monsters around him through anger<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-Couples_Retreat-27"><span>[</span>27<span>]</span></a>.)
- Reactive Evolution, Empowerment & Enhanced Absorption (Users possess the ability to mine life energy from others life-forms, absorbing it from a distance<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-What_Are_Little_Girls_Made_Of?-29"><span>[</span>29<span>]</span></a> or direct contact<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-All_That_Glitters-7"><span>[</span>7<span>]</span></a>. This empowers them<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-PUTDDTW-55"><span>[</span>55<span>]</span></a>, greatly increasing their power as well as the potency of their abilities<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-Couples_Retreat-27"><span>[</span>27<span>]</span></a>. Their own mana can also do the same, granting them more power and new abilities in combat when experiencing strong mana<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-Couples_Retreat-27"><span>[</span>27<span>]</span></a>.)
- Reality Warping (Mana's effects can warp reality to an unknown extent.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-Third_Time's_a_Charm-10"><span>[</span>10<span>]</span></a> Mana can changes the Legerdomain all the time<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-Enemy_of_My_Frenemy-11"><span>[</span>11<span>]</span></a>)
- Teleportation & Dimensional Travel Negation (Mana can passively negated any dimension travel and teleportat, as shown here<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-Destroy_All_Aliens-12"><span>[</span>12<span>]</span></a> and here<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-The_Beginning_of_the_End-13"><span>[</span>13<span>]</span></a>)
- Minor Light Manipulation (Mana can make emit a blinding light<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-The_Surge-14"><span>[</span>14<span>]</span></a>)
- Technology Manipulation (1 Layers, possibly 2 Layers; Mana can cause malfunctions in Omnitrix and the rest of the technology. Causing malfunctions even in Ultimatrix, which make Ben back to Human form<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-The_Ultimate_Sacrifice-15"><span>[</span>15<span>]</span></a>)
- Limited Dimensional Manipulation (Mana passively prevent dimensional shifting from one area to another<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-The_Ultimate_Enemy:_Part_2-16"><span>[</span>16<span>]</span></a>)
All of these abilities should be removed (only from nature of Mana) since it's in passive abilities and for Mana users and Mana shield
- Magma Manipulation, Fire Manipulation, Explosion Manipulation, Water Manipulation & Acid Manipulation (Mana unaffected by magma,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-Absolute_Power:_Part_1-17"><span>[</span>17<span>]</span></a> fire<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-War_of_the_Worlds:_Part_2-6"><span>[</span>6<span>]</span></a>, explosions<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-Max_Out-18"><span>[</span>18<span>]</span></a>, water<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-The_Forge_of_Creation-19"><span>[</span>19<span>]</span></a> and acid<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-Hit_'Em_Where_They_Live-20"><span>[</span>20<span>]</span></a>)
- Ice Manipulation & Absolute Zero (Mana can resist<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-Max_Out-18"><span>[</span>18<span>]</span></a> Big Chill's absolute zero attack<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-The_Ultimate_Heist-21"><span>[</span>21<span>]</span></a>)
- Age Manipulation and Time Manipulation (Mana was able to block a blast from Eon's time ray which ages target into dust.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-Ben_10,000_Returns-22"><span>[</span>22<span>]</span></a>)
- Absorption (Life-energy, Soul, Mind, Magic and Power - Mana are unaffected by Darkstar's absorption<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-Darkstar_Rising-23"><span>[</span>23<span>]</span></a>)
- Limited Spatial Manipulation (Mana are unaffected by the fracturing of local space<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-Ultimate_Aggregor-24"><span>[</span>24<span>]</span></a>)
- Mind Manipulation, Transmutation & Corruption (Both Types; Mana are unaffected by Dagon's mind wave,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-The_Ultimate_Enemy:_Part_1-25"><span>[</span>25<span>]</span></a> which can corrupt people and control over mind<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-The_Creature_From_Beyond-26"><span>[</span>26<span>]</span></a>)
- Power Nullification (Negative spell can't negated the magic energy of a Mana user)
Remove Time Manipulation and Physics Manipulation, since it's unknown what rules that Magic/Mana lacks, and it also affects by time stop.
- Law Manipulation, Time Manipulation & Physics Manipulation (Mana are lacks a rules,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-Third_Time's_a_Charm-10"><span>[</span>10<span>]</span></a> such as time<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-Ben_10,000_Returns-22"><span>[</span>22<span>]</span></a> and physics<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-The_Forge_of_Creation-19"><span>[</span>19<span>]</span></a>)
Remove this part, since it's Resistance to Perception Manipulation.
Remove this, because it's only Ultimate Aliens resist itMana can passively malfunctions in Ultimatrix, which make Ben back to Human form
Simply as Gwen is only one that resist it
- Cold (Mana users can survived an ice storm<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mana_(Ben_10)#cite_note-War_of_the_Worlds:_Part_1-57"><span>[</span>57<span>]</span></a>.)
Upgrades:
Well, there 2 updates in tier and lifting strength:
This would change at most of character's tier, AP, durability, and etc..
Tier Changes for Mana users:
All mana users should be has Varies in their profile, as their powers are depends on place where he/she is, such as Gwen are more powerful in a forest than in a city, this would add in:
Well, there 2 updates in tier and lifting strength:
- It should be upgrade all low tier to High 5-A due to update of old clac.
- It supported by 5-B (2.689 Yottatons) feat, which scales to the Helix who survived the destruction of Galvan B. The Helix (which is similar to new Helix, who survived an explosion.) was destroyed by Diamondhead, make Diamondhead also scales to it
- And also Galvanic Mechamorph's Low 5-B [1.825 Zettatons] feat.
- Upchuck was able to counter sub energy powered attacks with his attacks so should scale to High 6-A (it accept before)
- Kevin 11 was able to overpower the Omnitrix, which is stated to be more powerful than Sub-Energy.
- Add "Possibly Class E" to LS for all UAF/OV characters who scales to Humungousaur due to this thread (it get accepted before)
Tier Changes for Mana users:
All mana users should be has Varies in their profile, as their powers are depends on place where he/she is, such as Gwen are more powerful in a forest than in a city, this would add in:
- Gwen Tennyson
- Charmcaster
- Hex
- Verdona
- Dagon
- Alpha Rune
Profile:
Also profile has some intelligence upgrade to some characters:
Also profile has some intelligence upgrade to some characters:
- Extraordinary Genius (Gwen, which is considered smart from a young age, capable of programming her laptop to search and find a pattern between the locations and activation times of the Dimension 12 portals to determine where and when Computron's minions would appear. In another instance, Gwen's computer smarts are superior to Kevin, considered she can assist Eunice in programming a genetic alteration pulse against the Xenocite infestation on Aranhascimmia. She even can combine her computer expertise with her knowledge of magic, as she was able to develop an algorithm to predict the next true name of Legerdomain. Stated to be the brain of team. She can solve the calculus question to predict the next location of Dagon's teleporting shrine in 30 seconds. When she was kid, she had a 4.2 GPA. She always trying to think ahead and calculate the consequences, even as the voice of reason in team. She devised a plan to stop the Megawatts by using the world's largest thermometer as a lightning rod to ground them. And when they were fighting against the storm monster, Gwen was able to devise a plan to stop him by making Heatblast reach supernova-level heat in order to evaporate the entire being. When they were trapped in the Omnitrix and didn't know about it, she was able to know that they had teleported into another universe and understand how it worked. She reads a lot of Mystery books, so she knows how to look for clues. Gwen is much smarter and technically gifted than Ben, especially with computers. She has great gymnastics and martial arts skills.)
- Extraordinary Genius (Kevin and Rook can make Kevin’s new car immune to everything in galaxy, like acid, magma, explosions, freezing, energy blasts, and even anything that Ben and his aliens can do except magic. He make Proto-TRUK, a spaceship that contains Gravitorque Boosters, Detrovite Nav-System, Quill-Temp Nanoshift Transformer Nanoshift Transformer, FTL Drive, Prisoner Holding Cell, Tri-Barrel Blaster Turret, Vorlon Spline Distributor, Switchable Steering Wheel, Auto-Pilot Mode, Signal Flare Launcher, Adhesive Foam Deployment, and even Kevin, upon seeing the interior, was very impressed with the custom modifications done to it by Rook. He made his weapon, called “the Proto-Tool”, which has multiple functions, such as a blaster, custom bow, net caster, missile launcher, power sword, grappler, sight, energy shackle, auto turret, energy shield, etc.)
- At least Genius (Although he wasn't use his potential in studying, he was best user of Omnitrix, and even superior to Azmuth . Paradox says Ben has knowledge and innate sense of transtemporal metaphysics. He was able to convince Bellicus and Serena, which alternate version of Albedo could not do until after year. Outsmarted Vilgax on Primus, and when he planned to use the Omnitrix with his Bioid army to conquer the earth. Outsmarted Darkstar. He possesses great combat skills after training with Gwen. He outsmarted Eon, who was able to trick Ultimate Ben 10,000. When he was a kid, he was able to figure out Dr. Animo's next location, which surprised Max and Gwen. He evaded both Vilgax and Kevin 11 for a long period of time in the Null Void after having access to the Omnitrix's Master Control for only one day. Ben has impressive piloting skills, as shown when, at 10 years old, he was able to adequately control a gyropod within seconds of trying it.)
- Extraordinary Genius (Vilgax was able to program the Chronosapien Time Bomb to destroy entire Timestream except NW Ben Timeline and him, although Maltruant didn't tell him anything about it. He was able to program his army to be synced to the Omnitrix to transform his army instead of him. He created all his technologies, including Vox Peniculus, a machine described as capable of absorbing essence/power of beings like Dagon. He created Mechadroids, which can cybernetically fuse with organic creatures, turning them into powerful human/droid hybrids, like with Rojo, with whom Vilgax can mentally communicate and influence. Outsmart Professor Paradox)
| Agree: | Disagree: | Neutral: |
| ActuallySpaceMan4, Reiner04 (Same as ASM) | ActuallySpaceMan42 (Abstract Existence Type 1) |
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