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Arifureta: Soul Revision #1 (✔)

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To define Soul magic the expression of ‘magic that interfere with negative material possessed by living thing’ showed its true nature the most. To say it specifically, this magic could also interfere with things like energy inside the body that was magic power, heat, electricity, then thought, consciousness, memory. Although this magic was designated as ‘soul’, what Yue and others could exercise with this magic was interference at thought body more accurately. And then if someone could handle this magic perfectly, the caster could personally create consciousness and the like, they could configure it too. To put another way, it was possible to create artificial intelligence using magic.
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Spirit magic was magic that manipulated the incorporeal elements of sentient beings. In more concrete terms, itcould be used to manipulate the heat, electricity, and other matterless energy that circulated within a person’s body. That also included things like memories, thoughts, and consciousness. With enough skill, a spirit magic user could take those incorporeal elements, duplicate them, and create a new soul out of them. In other words, create another person.

Any suggestion on what to do with "soul is water" ?
「――I want to sleep for eternity……」

Letting out such gloomy voice spilling out from his mouth to say such ominous line. Even so he thrust both his hands forward with a snappy movement. His index fingers and middle fingers were pressed together beautifully like the sword handseal that that onmyouji often used. Each of the pressed fingers were pointed to different direction.

There was no chanting. Magic power was gathering at his fingertips instantly. Blue that was tinged with murky grey――indigo-tinged grey magic power was condensed to become small bullets of light and they were fired.

They were heading toward humanoid monsters that were approaching exactly at that moment. Four of the class 3.

The four evaded the indigo grey light bullets with agile movements, but the hook-nosed man adroitly pointed his fingertips up. As soon as he did that, each of the bullets split. They became four light bullets in total and also performed reverse V-turn to hit the four from behind.

The class 3 monsters twitched and convulsed while freezing in place. Even though there wasn’t even ten meters until the hook-nosed man, they didn’t show any sign of moving.

The man muttered 「”Seize” “Dismantle”」 with a low voice, but it was questionable whether the four monsters even heard him at the end.

Even though there wasn’t any external wound that could be seen, their grotesque bodies were crumbling to pieces. Based on that most likely something had been done to them.

The hook-nosed man instantly slaughtered four class 3 altogether, however, the next moment,

「Uuh!?」

His heart was stabbed from behind and he let out a choked voice.

A pitch black great sword that felt like it was sucking in all light was sticking out almost all the way through from his chest. Such sight was more than enough to convey that this was the demise of the hook-nosed man.

But,

「I still can’t die……」

The man spilled out a melancholic voice while his limply dangling down right hand’s fingers pointed to his back. Light bullet was instantly condensed at his fingertips just like before and shot the class 2.

「――”Seiz”……tsk. “Shock Bind”」

The class 2 seemed to plan to move the great sword that was still stabbing into the chest to below to cut apart the man, but the movement stopped just when it had only cut slightly below. The class 2 twitched and convulsed just like the class 3 monsters before.

However, there was no sign of its body crumbling like the class 3.
It was continuing to convulse like it was being bathed in electricity. Perhaps it was resisting something.

Meanwhile, the hook-nosed man smoothly slid to the side. It was like the great sword piercing his body didn’t exist.

The hook-nosed man slipped off the lynchpin of huge blade like in comedy. He turned around and thrust the sword handseals of his two hands toward the class 2.

Light bullets from the fingertips fired in succession. There might be ten of them firing from the left and right hands.

「――”Seize”. “Dismantle”-」

A faint fighting spirit was mixed in the gloomy voice. The hands glowing in indigo grey color were thrust forward with the back of the hands touching before the man spread out his arms.

It looked like he was putting all his strength into it. Like he was trying to wrench open a closed sliding double-leaf door forcefully.

Then, strange occurrence happened to the class 2 too.

The convulsing became harder. Its jaw that was covered with tentacles were opening widely as though it was letting out a voiceless shriek. Its two hands were desperately trying to grasp toward the hook-nosed man.

「Guuh, SHIIIII!!」

The hook-nosed man groaned before loudly yelling and spreading out his arms powerfully. Right after that, the class 2’s body split vertically into two parts. And then it was falling down without regenerating.

「Haa haa……how……many, more? More than three……is, impossible, I guess?」


The hook-nosed man groaned painfully once more. Even so he immediately turned around. He placed the teleportation gate behind him to defend it while turning his focus toward the fierce battlefield. Ch 551
「Hm~m, that’s a convenient technique ssu. In summary it’s clone created using soul magic ssu, but in exchange of only able to create one the clone can perform with a spec that surpass even the original body……it’s like that thing master like ssu isn’t it?」

“That thing” referred to the avatar of the completely immersive magical VR game. Naturally, there the user could also become another character and fiddled with its specs.

Yes, Ghost here wasn’t the actual person. His real body was at the deepest part of the building even now. From there, he was controlling his indestructible clone as long as his magic power hadn’t run out.

Of course, the clone’s spec couldn’t be too deviating from the real body like in a game. The clone also couldn’t use magic that the real body hadn’t learned. But, in case where it was something that he had the foundation to do but his technique couldn’t keep up, he was able to perform the ideal movement based on his imagination.

And the greatest aspect of this clone body was that regardless of it merely being a clone, it wouldn’t vanish even after receiving lethal attack and could be repaired immediately. It wasn’t a real body, so if he felt like it the clone was able to pass through attack to some degree.

The real body was sharing its five senses with the clone body so he was still feeling pain and impact, but the damage itself wasn’t transmitted back to the real body. Even if the clone was completely destroyed, it could be revived as many as times as he liked as long as the main body wasn’t defeated.

And, what was nasty here was being a master of soul magic, it became difficult to detect him down to the soul level if he seriously erased his presence.

The most difficult man to kill in the calamity world. That was Ghost.

「What’s more you can also directly affect the target’s soul whether it’s to destroy, tear apart, etc……even in the hell world you have enough strength to call yourself a demon king ssu.」

Originally, it was difficult to forcefully destroy the target’s soul even if one could use soul magic.

Because as it were “soul” was like “water” that was poured into the “vessel” called flesh body to the brim.

Even if the soul magic user could deal impact to cause ripple, turn the vessel inside out to make the content leak, or perhaps pouring water of different color to muddy the water, destroying or splitting the water itself couldn’t be done. Even if the water was blown away or temporarily split apart, it wouldn’t vanish to nothing.

That was the image of soul magic.

The exception was when the flesh body died. When soul lost its connection with the flesh body it became unable to maintain its shape. Like liquid becoming vapor and dispersed.

Conversely speaking, while soul was connected to flesh body, in short while the flesh body was alive, soul was originally just that flexible and tough.

And yet, Ghost directly destroyed soul while it was still residing inside flesh body.

That was none other than the proof that he was at a level that had reached the essence of soul magic.

「Although, it looks like you can’t do it unless you hit the target with magic power that contain your duplicated soul and make it seep inside first ssu. It looks like it also won’t work unless you increase the amount you shot in proportion to the energy the target contain ssu, and the time required for the seeping in will also increase in proportion to that isn’t it ssu? Furthermore, you’re defenseless in the meanwhile ssu. In other words, it’s a technique that is best used against lower ranked opponent isn’t it ssu?」Ch 551
Soul dispersion is a phenomenon that occurs once the vessel becomes unusable. Ghost technique involves imbuing duplicates of his soul into his spells. It also appears that the physical body may be a reflection of the soul, which is why both sustain the same level of damage.


──Soul Magic Soul Impact

It was the basic attack magic in soul magic. Originally it was magic that released wide range shockwave. It could blow consciousness away, sealing movement for a moment, hindering usage of magic, etc, it was a magic with high versatility but……

Because of that it was easy to resist when used against equal or stronger opponent. Right now the lord was condensing that magic into his fist to hammer into a single opponent. Furthermore, the condensation rate was increased by overlapping the magic through the multiple clones he left behind. Ch 532
Adding the previous scans, deforming or damaging the soul require using a soul of equal strength or higher.
Conclusion:
  1. Souls have an inherent regeneration capability
  2. Soul hax and resistance to it is dependent on the strength of the soul
  3. The physical body is a reflection of the soul or atleast shaped by it

Agree: @Astral_Trinity439 ,@Lloydblitzed ,@ActuallySpaceMan42 ,@Elizhaa ,

Disagree:

Neutral:
 
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Soul is "water"

As we can see above the form of the soul influence the physical body and this is beyond physical regeneration to fix

His technique look like LGR negation. Soul act like liquid and while it has a vessel it's capable of lowgodly regeneration. It's not possible to destroy the soul of a stronger opponent


Soul manipulation is dependent on the strength of the caster soul

Conclusion:
  1. Souls are immune to regular soul destruction
  2. The soul shape the physical body
  3. Souls have and inherent LGR
  4. Soul hax and resistance to it is dependent on the strength of the soul. The same thing for LGR.
  5. Soul imbued spells are more potent when it comes to soul hax

Agree:

Disagree:

Neutral:
I don't think this is outright immunity, just resistance, and most likely an unconventional one, but deffo not immunity.

The very fact that the Ghost in your narrative could destroy the soul, even as an exception, means it's not total immunity.

I'll comment on lgr later .
Rest seems fine
 
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I don't think this is outright immunity, just resistance, and most likely an unconventional one, but deffo not immunity.
I honestly don't know what to do with it acting like a liquid
The very fact that the Ghost in your narrative could destroy the soul, even as an exception, means it's not total immunity.
I don't think regular soul destruction will work, Ghost is using his soul clone to do it.
「Obviously it’ll be real hard to do something like creating clone body using soul magic so you can go to a trip while doing teaching work simultaneously.」

That was their actual strategy so Aiko could take a long vacation while also still teaching.

The impetus for the idea was of course a certain Abyssgate-san. His clone bodies were produced by his skill but, originally that skill could be categorized as soul magic.

By copying the information of one’s own soul and imprinting it into a body of magic power, it became possible to have another body that could move autonomically and share information. It was a magic with the highest level of difficulty.

「I thought that it would be possible somehow if it’s just creating one clone but……after all I can insert pseudo soul into plant to make it fight for me.」

「I guess there is a world of difference in difficulty level between simple combat action and a perfect copy of the user. In addition there was also the matter of time limit.」

「Yeah. To think that it’s that difficult to grant the clone the same level of autonomy like the original self……furthermore maintaining the magic also become more difficult the more advanced it is. Just what in the world is Endou-kun who is able to maintain several such clones all the time?」

「I’m also learning it once more after seeing Aiko’s hard work. Just how terrific the Abyss Lord is.」

Both could only put on bitter smiles on their faces.

In a glance, Kousuke looked like he was using clone bodies like it was nothing, but in actuality from the perspective of magic user, it wouldn’t be an exaggeration to call his skill in creating clones as godly.

Autonomy that wasn’t at all different from the main body, and equal combat ability. And right now he had even conquered the problem of durability.

On top of that was the aspect of “producing clones from clones in geometric progression”. Even Yue was made to say “It’s impossible for me. How is that possible?” to that. Ch 483

The clone personality are influenced by the caster desire. I don't know what to do with this
The woman who in this one week got secretly called with things like 「The Awakened Ai-chan」 or 「Super Ai-chan Mode」 among the students was certainly a fake.

She was an autonomic clone created by Aiko using soul magic.

It was just, a li~~~ttle bit of her desire of her ideal self had gotten mixed in it. Ch 504
It should be just a little, reaaa~~lly a little bit of a “capable me”.

Certainly, my desire for things like Yue-san’s mature woman atmosphere or the good aspects of Shia-san and others got mixed in, but still!

To be thought that it was so divergent from my original self to a degree that I was suspected to be mentally ill……as expected that’s just hurtful! Ch 504

The clone had returned to the school for the time being partly because Amai-san felt reservation and firmly refused having Aiko accompanying her constantly, where she found the vice principal who was far from losing his temper, and instead became like the embodiment of kindness and consideration. Through the clone who was currently busy making excuses, Aiko checked the time difference between worlds.

While hesitating, What should I do, would it be better if I send my consciousness there for a bit?

There was also how her clone was in the awakened Ai-chan mode, that vice principal finally started resolving himself to bring her to the hospital personally.

Apparently he was suspecting the Aiko clone. That it was just as he thought, the change in personality wasn’t because of image change but because of split personality.

……Yep, let’s just leave it to the clone here! Ch 518
「Shit-. How troublesome……」

He unconsciously let out a curse.

Whether it was the condition, the environment, or the situation, everything was the worst.

It appeared that the blood wind had quite that bad effect on the human body. Since the moment he stepped in here, Kousuke was feeling it――the pain as though his lungs were being stabbed, his prickling skin as though he was burning, stamina and vitality, and his spirit, the energies for the sake of living felt like they were slipping out from the core of his body.

This world wasn’t kind at all to a living person.

In addition, due to the bloody wind that was increasing in thickness and intensity, he lost sight of the strangely shaped humanoid and his rescue target. Ch 303
Hell constantly drain your soul, but demons do just fine in there with minor side effect for the weak ones like losing their sanity
At the same time, the bloody wind that was blowing violently in hell――that which was called as “the wind of lamentation”, seemed usable to form a transient flesh body which was centered on the soul.

Although, in the first place, “hell” was a world that wasn’t suitable for people with a flesh body to continue to exist. Thus, just like how those ghoul-like things looked like that, the flesh body there was constantly incomplete and ugly. As for their ability to think, people whose soul was of particularly fine quality when they were human would have it to a certain degree, but normal people were only able to act instinctually.

「That is the reason why they are trying to descend into this world. If they are able to materialize on Earth, they will be able to maintain a definite flesh body. Like that, naturally, the rank of their soul will rise, and they will be able to take back their thinking ability.」Ch 308
Hell inhibit the natural regenration of souls and weaken them. Soul=thought body

Demons souls are made eternal through a special method that's why they don't experience dispersion.
 
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I honestly don't know what to do with it acting like a liquid
Most likely unconventional resistance is enough
I don't think regular soul destruction will work, Ghost is using his soul clone to do it.
Well yeah, souls are durabe and indestructible by normal means, but just normal means isn't enough to grant immunity.

Immunity is something like "Mind manipulation doesn't work on things without a mind" or "soul destruction doesn't work on him because he doesn't have a soul to begin with"
Intangibility elemental? On top of immaterial as being a soul.
Souls are already treated as good enough for AE by default, so intangibility and incorporeality kinda just come as a by product of AE
 
Souls are already treated as good enough for AE by default, so intangibility and incorporeality kinda just come as a by product of AE
I'm not sure about AE but I'm just saying the intangibility can have multiple types like elemental + immaterial.
Seems like it. It's is intangible even to beings who could normaly interact with it. So regular NPI and soul destruction won't work on it.
There's a character similar to this, he exists as a soul but is intangible to other souls due to his elemental intangibility as made of pure light. And another made of pure Air that makes him intangible to other souls.
 
Are we so for real?
A soul being described as water is genuinely one of the most common descriptors of a soul in fiction, the same as it being called a spark/flame, which doesn't mean we give it characteristics out of nowhere for that
Without a similar hax to it, it shouldn't be possible to destroy souls. His technique look like LGR negation.
No?
Where is low godly even coming from here? He's just erasing the soul, and while the verse itself gives a mechanic as to why they may resist soul erasure, and just soul erasure at that, that doesn't extend to giving them low godly neg for some reason (which, mind you, simply doesn't exist here because destroying the soul automatically bypasses most low godlys anyways
Souls are resistant to conventional soul destruction
In any case, no, it's specifically erasure that they resist considering your own scans saying
Even if the soul magic user could deal impact to cause ripple, turn the vessel inside out to make the content leak, or perhaps pouring water of different color to muddy the water, destroying or splitting the water itself couldn’t be done. Even if the water was blown away or temporarily split apart, it wouldn’t vanish to nothing.
Which, while it uses destruction to bring it's point across, is pretty clearly meant to be erasure considering the vanish to nothing part
Souls have and inherent LGR
From where?
Unless you mean the part about a soul not staying scattered forever, in which case A)That's not Low Godly and B)We don't have a timeframe on that so it's nowhere near combat applicable
Soul imbued spells are more potent when it comes to soul hax
Nothing here says that; it's noted to be a specific method that involves letting the duplicated soul seep into the target's own, rather than a general fact of soul magic
 
I'm not sure about AE but I'm just saying the intangibility can have multiple types like elemental + immaterial.
OP(Consciousness, thoughts, memories) and AE(Mind/Information/Concept). Ghost is a memory of a dead person.
There's a character similar to this, he exists as a soul but is intangible to other souls due to his elemental intangibility as made of pure light. And another made of pure Air that makes him intangible to other souls.
How are souls more tangible than light?
 
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How are souls more tangible than light?
Idk? Well he has layered intang due to it. If your description is right, they can gain the same.

But the more obvious reason is that interacting with souls doesnt mean you can interact with elements. Like light doesn't automatically become physical enough for you to punch it if you can interact with souls as they have diff composition, no hierarchy. An example is interacting with info2 doesn't mean you can interact with concepts and vice versa.
 
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I agree with Astral so far and kinda neutral for Low Godly Regen
Isn't this a form of regeneration ?
「Shit-. How troublesome……」

He unconsciously let out a curse.

Whether it was the condition, the environment, or the situation, everything was the worst.

It appeared that the blood wind had quite that bad effect on the human body. Since the moment he stepped in here, Kousuke was feeling it――the pain as though his lungs were being stabbed, his prickling skin as though he was burning, stamina and vitality, and his spirit, the energies for the sake of living felt like they were slipping out from the core of his body.

This world wasn’t kind at all to a living person.

In addition, due to the bloody wind that was increasing in thickness and intensity, he lost sight of the strangely shaped humanoid and his rescue target. Ch 303
Hell constantly drain your soul, but demons do just fine in there with minor side effect for the weak ones like losing their sanity
At the same time, the bloody wind that was blowing violently in hell――that which was called as “the wind of lamentation”, seemed usable to form a transient flesh body which was centered on the soul.

Although, in the first place, “hell” was a world that wasn’t suitable for people with a flesh body to continue to exist. Thus, just like how those ghoul-like things looked like that, the flesh body there was constantly incomplete and ugly. As for their ability to think, people whose soul was of particularly fine quality when they were human would have it to a certain degree, but normal people were only able to act instinctually.

「That is the reason why they are trying to descend into this world. If they are able to materialize on Earth, they will be able to maintain a definite flesh body. Like that, naturally, the rank of their soul will rise, and they will be able to take back their thinking ability.」Ch 308
Hell inhibit the natural regenration of souls and weaken them. Soul=thought body

Demons souls are made eternal through a special method that's why they don't experience dispersion.
 
Isn't this a form of regeneration ?
Hell constantly drain your soul, but demons do just fine in there with minor side effect for the weak ones like losing their sanity
I doubt this part supports any regen ability, looks more like Madness Manip here
Hell inhibit the natural regenration of souls and weaken them. Soul=thought body

Demons souls are made eternal through a special method that's why they don't experience dispersion.
This is arguably more of a Type 4 Immortality tbh
 
I doubt this part supports any regen ability, looks more like Madness Manip here
This is arguably more of a Type 4 Immortality tbh
Hell is a different universe and not an afterlife. The universe became unable to sustain life and is constantly destroying the physical body while draining life,soul and stamina. Once the inhabitants leave it, their soul could recover naturally.



Their soul could recover once they leave, hence the LGR.
 
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Hell is a different universe and not an afterlife. The universe became unable to sustain life and is constantly destroying the physical body while draining life,soul and stamina. Once the inhabitants leave it, their soul could recover naturally.



Their soul could recover once they leave, hence the LGR.
Pretty sure that for this to work, the soul would need to be completly evaporated, not just weakened, or the body should be restored upon leaving Hell
 
So basically, souls have to be erased, and just cutting or shattering them won't do anything in this verse?

In that case, it can work as an Unconventional Resistance; the rest seems simple enough.
 
So basically, souls have to be erased, and just cutting or shattering them won't do anything in this verse?

In that case, it can work as an Unconventional Resistance; the rest seems simple enough.
How exactly is that an unconventional resistance exactly?

One can still affect the soul entirely fine, it's just that its destruction cannot lead to its erasure as its parts will always come back together over a(n undefined) time frame.
 
One can still affect the soul entirely fine, it's just that its destruction cannot lead to its erasure as its parts will always come back together over a(n undefined) time frame.
It's more so against Soul Damage than Soul Manipulation as a whole.

OP can specify that.
 
It's more so against Soul Damage than Soul Manipulation as a whole.

OP can specify that.
No, they could be damaged, but destroying them is pretty much impossible without EE or a way to keep the soul fragment divided.


Ghost spell use soul clones to separate the soul and keep it that way
「Although, it looks like you can’t do it unless you hit the target with magic power that contain your duplicated soul and make it seep inside first ssu. It looks like it also won’t work unless you increase the amount you shot in proportion to the energy the target contain ssu, and the time required for the seeping in will also increase in proportion to that isn’t it ssu? Furthermore, you’re defenseless in the meanwhile ssu. In other words, it’s a technique that is best used against lower ranked opponent isn’t it ssu?」Ch 551
Technically it's a form of soul manipulation. Mixing the caster soul with the target, then using it to achieve this(Soul is a form of energy in the verse)


I've proposed a LGR for souls, but it sounded iffy back then. What do you think?
 
If the Soul is a type of energy in verse, then about you give all souls High Regeneration, but clarify it's over an indefinite amount of time.
You mean low godly regen ?


I can't remember any example of that cause most the fight end with the destruction of the vessel(physical body) which leave the soul vulnerable to dispersion. Dispersion is a natural phenomenon where the soul get wiped clean and recycled into natural energy of their universe. Some universes have Ki, Mana... and souls are construct of their world energy.

Although there is examples of soul regeneration, it's likely possible due to their physiology
『……It can’t be helped.』

The divine spirit who somehow recovered his calm muttered with small voice.

Actually, a clear death didn’t exist for divine spirit. Although, they also weren’t invincible. Because they were existence of nature phenomenon with their own will, their existence was depending on their will――in other word their mental strength.

In other words, if they were damaged to the extent they lost the willpower to regenerate, they would lose strength or get forced into dormant state for a while. They would become unable to materialize for a few years to dozens of years. Ch 333
Divine Spirits are basically gods of nature(soul≈mental strength)


Let me look for examples of non-spiritual being regenrating their soul.
 
No, High Regen for the soul as no matter how it's destroyed, unless one erases it it will come back
Or absorbtion
You would only get Low Godly if the Soul had been erased.
That's not LGR
Low-Godly: The ability to regenerate from the complete physical destruction of the user's body, instead restoring it from their disembodied consciousness, whether that be their soul, mind, some other non-physical aspect of themself, esoteric or metaphysical energy, or something else.
I think these could work:

1)Laus kept existing as a soul for 20 years
“You better. I mean, it’s the last thing I’ll be able to teach you.”

Sharm bit his lip and looked over at Laus. His father was beginning to glow faintly, and his figure was starting to turn transparent. In truth, Laus had died a while back. However, he’d separated his spirit from his corpse and used the spirit magic Soul Shadow to bind it to a clone of himself made of mana. Once the mana maintaining the body ran out, his spirit would vanish and he would die for real. Their earlier battle had been the last training session he would ever do with Sharm, and this was the last conversation they would ever have. ZVol6 p466
By copying the information of one’s own soul and imprinting it into a body of magic power, it became possible to have another body that could move autonomically and share information. It was a magic with the highest level of difficulty.

「I thought that it would be possible somehow if it’s just creating one clone but……after all I can insert pseudo soul into plant to make it fight for me.」Ch 483


2)Ehit made a soul clone before his godhood, so I think it could also be used as an example
A fierce vibration shook it that day.

Fragments crumbled down from the cracked spots. The tremor was gradually getting stronger. It continued for very, very long. The vibration came from the battle that was going on far above.

Before long, a conspicuously greater booming sound that felt like earthquake was transmitted. It was a collapse. There was a collapse somewhere. From there the sound of battle entered along with a lot of living organisms.

Therefore, it happened. It woke up.

The deepest spot of this place. A faint light turned on inside a room that was locked in darkness. Jiji-, jiji- Particles that were shining like sandstorm burst forth and gathered. It projected a human shape that looked unstable.

That silhouette looked up.

Then, the debris all over the facility became tinged with light. They started to squirm like a badly made puppet.


Next, the silhouette looked toward the back of the room. It was as though it was looking through the wall.

――a……Aa……

Something that sounded like a faint groaning resounded.

It was a sound that made the listener felt the feeling of deep longing inside a heart-crushing suffering.

Then a terrific triple roars shook the facility, as though to disregard that sound as something trivial.

Something, an outrageous existence appeared to have woken up.

After listening to all those till the end, the silhouette dropped its gaze.

There was a corpse. It was the corpse of someone that had been reduced into mere bones while remaining in the posture of falling face down on the ground.

The silhouette, wasn’t a human. It also didn’t have any will or emotion. Because it was nothing more than the remains of its creator who created it solely for managing the facility and accomplishing its objective.

But, perhaps because it was simply a remains, the silhouette that continued to stare at the corpse finally……

――What I cannot understand, must be evil

There was no sound. But, its lips that were distorted as though it was sneering, or perhaps grinding its teeth in rage and hatred, looked as though they were muttering those words. 2nd Season Blue-Ray SS Prologue
That should reforming from elementary particles
「If I remember it right, magic power, blessing power, and even the sky dragon power in Grasp Gloria, all will lead to the element (origin) if you follow them back to their root. That was what you said right?」

「That’s right. The sacred tree and great tree――let’s just call of them the world tree. This thing is most likely a natural conversion system.」

The energies that were flowing in each of their respective world were like elementary particle at physics. It seemed they were made from very small grains that were smaller than each of them.

That was “element”. It was the smallest material that became the base of any kind of energy.

And then, the world trees that existed at each world were absorbing those elements from somewhere and converted them into energy that suited each world they were in and released them out. That was Hajime’s theory. Ch 381


3)Hajime "cultivating" inside the Dragon Vein
Of course, he was putting in countermeasure so such thing wouldn’t happen for the second time, but there was no absolute in this world. So therefore.

「Strengthening myself is essential.」

Those words were strangely filled with strength. The word “essential” also caused them to harbor a feeling of discomfort.

But, before anyone could bring that up,

「My bad if I shock you guys. I think I had mentioned that I used the “dragon vein” under the King Tree for it but, I didn’t explain enough huh. Maybe I was being too impatient……」

What do you mean? Yue and co tilted their head. Hajime’s face turned awkward while he confessed. The shocking truth.

「Actually I dived into the “dragon vein”.」

Hm? Yue and co tilted their head even more. For a moment, they didn’t get what he was saying.

And so, Hajime reworded his sentence.

「It’s like monk’s waterfall training but using “dragon vein” instead. I used Hour Crystal to extend time and placed myself in the flow of “willpower” inside “dragon vein” for a long period.」

「Haaaaaaaaaaaaa!? Nagumo-sama!? Just what in the world are you thinking!?」

The one who reacted first was Hinata. Diving into “dragon vein”……as an onmyouji she must know just how terrifying such act was better than anyone else.

The awe residing inside her gaze until just now dispersed, changing into the gaze of someone looking at an outrageous madman. Takehiko, Kiyotake, and also Hidzuki were also looking creeped out.

That place is a great flow where “self” vanish……Nagumo-kun, how are you alive?

That place should swallow, no, melt your mind, flesh, and even your soul until all of you are assimilated and you can’t ever return back again though……

「No wonder they called you demon god……right now, I’m feeling simultaneously the greatest fear and exasperation I hath ever felt in my whole life……」

Even the legendary oni god presented Hajime with her exasperation. Certainly, there was no doubting that this person was a hundred percent demon god.

In a manner of speaking it was like high-altitude training. By doing training in a location that put huge burden on the body, a human’s cardio-pulmonary function would become more efficient than when they lived in low-altitude.

Certainly, if someone did endurance training inside energy flow that could melt everything to nothing, far from just flesh body, even their soul would be strengthened. Perhaps this method could be called as the most efficient strengthening training.

But, it was an outrageous story for the family. After all Hajime was doing something that normally would be no different than committing suicide. The light vanished from everyone’s eyes. Ch 545
(Willpower is a mistranslation of Ki)


Earth's Dragon Veins are the equivalent of the planet blood vessels, but instead of blood they carries the natural energy of that universe. Similar to soul dispersion, it break down the soul to natural energy(Ki, Mana...), so surving that and getting stronger from the constant pressure prove that they have an inherent LGR.
He didn’t know what lie at the bottom of the hole of light.

But, it wasn’t anything good.

Kousuke understood even though the bottom was full covered by light. It was a large river.

It was the stream of light of life. A great stream that was beyond human knowledge. Anyone who got swallowed by it would surely be unable to maintain their self no matter who they were. They would lose their “self” and became “everything” that flowed endlessly in there.

When he looked below, it felt like he was going to get sucked in. He suddenly even got the mood of wanting to let himself to be swallowed by the stream.

Such unconscious and dangerous thought was Ch 412
 
Creating a body for your soul could be LGR.

I'm not seeing how making a soul to carry out tasks after your death would be LGR.

As for the Dragon Vein stuff, in the end the soul and body aren't being erased, so it wouldn't be LGR.
 
Creating a body for your soul could be LGR.
Did you get that from Laus's scan?

Cause all he did was imprint his soul's information into a mana body, that's how soul cloning work
I'm not seeing how making a soul to carry out tasks after your death would be LGR.
Is this from Ehit's scan?

I was pointing out that even a damaged soul clone could reform itself from spiritual energy(mana particles) which by wiki standard is a LGR
As for the Dragon Vein stuff, in the end the soul and body aren't being erased, so it wouldn't be LGR.
What do you think they meant by "losing self"?
「That place is a great flow where “self” vanish……Nagumo-kun, how are you alive?」

「That place should swallow, no, melt your mind, flesh, and even your soul until all of you are assimilated and you can’t ever return back again though……」
And just from their reaction you could imagine how dangerous it is. Nothing will be left of the individual's soul(consciousness, thoughts, will, memories and information) essentially purifying them back into natural energy which equivalent of soul eraser. Adapting in the Dragon Vein prove that he has LGR otherwise he is F.ed


BTW, Time Magic which is the law/concept of time can't regenerate the soul cause once it disperse, it's gone for good. This is also why there is a time limit for resurrection.(Soul and Time)
 
Did you get that from Laus's scan?

Cause all he did was imprint his soul's information into a mana body, that's how soul cloning work
In the first scan, it's stated he died, separated his spirit, and built a body out of mana.

Building a completely new body, from just a soul, would be LGR.

If it's just a clone, though, then never mind.
Is this from Ehit's scan?

I was pointing out that even a damaged soul clone could reform itself from spiritual energy(mana particles) which by wiki standard is a LGR
All levels of godly regeneration come from recovering from erasure. Not damage, or scattering, but complete, and utter erasure of an aspect, such as the body or soul.

A soul recovering from being damaged does not qualify as LGR.
What do you think they meant by "losing self"?

And just from their reaction you could imagine how dangerous it is. Nothing will be left of the individual's soul(consciousness, thoughts, will, memories and information) essentially purifying them back into natural energy which equivalent of soul eraser. Adapting in the Dragon Vein prove that he has LGR otherwise he is F.ed
It's stated they are assimilated and become one with the flow. Since the soul is not being erased, regardless of whether they can recover from it, it's not LGR.
 
In the first scan, it's stated he died, separated his spirit, and built a body out of mana.
Soul≈Mana
Building a completely new body, from just a soul, would be LGR.
Mana bodies could do that
To be thought that it was so divergent from my original self to a degree that I was suspected to be mentally ill……as expected that’s just hurtful!

Aiko felt a smidgen of dissatisfaction like that.

In addition, it would still be fine if it was just the psychiatric department, but it would be bad for her to get a medical examination. The clone body was super advanced and could reproduce body temperature and skin texture and coloring depending on her mental state, but it the end it was just a lump of magic power. As expected it would cause a great commotion if the body got examined.

And so, things became like usual. Ch 504
And yes she was physically interacting
If it's just a clone, though, then never mind.
No that's not a clone. He was forced to kill himself, but faked his death and kept existing as a mana body to spend more time with his son.

It's stated they are assimilated and become one with the flow. Since the soul is not being erased, regardless of whether they can recover from it, it's not LGR.
They melt
「When life perish soul will also disperse. However, it is only dispersing and not vanishing.」

「That well, it’s something we know. It’s a domain of soul magic after all.」

「……Nn」

 Hence, the question was beyond. The knowledge of the goddess.

The atomized souls are reduced to the energy specific to that world and circulate through it. Just as a drop of colored water falls into the flow of a great river, mixing and becoming indistinguishable.

"When ...... life is born, a drop scattered from the flow of that river dwells and becomes a soul?"

 Lutria nodded, "Correct. And so life goes around"


「The great tree is an existence to assist or prevent any stagnation in that cycle. It convert the energy in this world to element and expel it to outside the world, and also taking in element from other world in return, then forming the element to form that suit each world before circulating it. It is also a kind of purification facility.」Ch 493
Souls get broken down to Element which the fundamental "partictle" of all energy.
「That’s right. The sacred tree and great tree――let’s just call of them the world tree. This thing is most likely a natural conversion system.」

The energies that were flowing in each of their respective world were like elementary particle at physics. It seemed they were made from very small grains that were smaller than each of them.

That was “element”. It was the smallest material that became the base of any kind of energy.

And then, the world trees that existed at each world were absorbing those elements from somewhere and converted them into energy that suited each world they were in and released them out. That was Hajime’s theory. Ch 381
This is what they meant by "melt". If souls are broken down to a more fundamental aspect, leaving no mana, spiritual body, consciousness... won't that be like erasure?


I got another example of soul regeneration
Demons are spiritual entities with "eternal soul"(they don't disperse)
「Shit-. How troublesome……」

He unconsciously let out a curse.

Whether it was the condition, the environment, or the situation, everything was the worst.

It appeared that the blood wind had quite that bad effect on the human body. Since the moment he stepped in here, Kousuke was feeling it――the pain as though his lungs were being stabbed, his prickling skin as though he was burning, stamina and vitality, and his spirit, the energies for the sake of living felt like they were slipping out from the core of his body.

This world wasn’t kind at all to a living person.

In addition, due to the bloody wind that was increasing in thickness and intensity, he lost sight of the strangely shaped humanoid and his rescue target. Ch 303
high ranked demons do fine in there, only the lower rank lose their sanity cause soul=thought body.
At the same time, the bloody wind that was blowing violently in hell――that which was called as “the wind of lamentation”, seemed usable to form a transient flesh body which was centered on the soul.

Although, in the first place, “hell” was a world that wasn’t suitable for people with a flesh body to continue to exist. Thus, just like how those ghoul-like things looked like that, the flesh body there was constantly incomplete and ugly. As for their ability to think, people whose soul was of particularly fine quality when they were human would have it to a certain degree, but normal people were only able to act instinctually.

「That is the reason why they are trying to descend into this world. If they are able to materialize on Earth, they will be able to maintain a definite flesh body. Like that, naturally, the rank of their soul will rise, and they will be able to take back their thinking ability.」Ch 308
Once they leave Hell and Wind of Lamentation, their soul could finaly start regenerating and regain their mind
 
Soul≈Mana

Mana bodies could do that

And yes she was physically interacting

No that's not a clone. He was forced to kill himself, but faked his death and kept existing as a mana body to spend more time with his son.
If mana is equal to the soul, then never mind, creating a body with it while being a soul wouldn't count as LGR.
They melt

Souls get broken down to Element which the fundamental "partictle" of all energy.

This is what they meant by "melt". If souls are broken down to a more fundamental aspect, leaving no mana, spiritual body, consciousness... won't that be like erasure?
No, because they're still 'something', it doesn't matter how much it's broken down, as long as what it is made of still exists, it wasn't erased.

Those extra scans still wouldn't qualify.

I would stop trying to aim for Low Godly and just go for High Soul Regeneration, as I said at the start. You can create another CRT if you really want to get Low Godly Regeneration.
 
If mana is equal to the soul, then never mind, creating a body with it while being a soul wouldn't count as LGR.
Why do you think I put the sign
“Laus-dono has a theory that both mana and souls are simply different forms of the same energy.

“Wait, does that mean when we use mana, we’re depleting our souls?”

“Not exactly. His idea is that when energy from the natural world enters people’s bodies, it takes concrete form as either mana or a soul, so they come from the same source, but aren’t one and the same.”

“Hmm, I think I get it? Is it like how if you desynthesize different types of ores and minerals, you’ll see they’re all made from the same basic components?” ZVol 6 p471

No, because they're still 'something', it doesn't matter how much it's broken down, as long as what it is made of still exists, it wasn't erased.
Even if that thing is neither soul or mana?

Those extra scans still wouldn't qualify.


I would stop trying to aim for Low Godly and just go for High Soul Regeneration, as I said at the start. You can create another CRT if you really want to get Low Godly Regeneration.
Yeah, I was planning on that. Let's end it here
 
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