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Verse Peak Tier List; How high does Verses peak?

I think the problem is that that version is from Castelvania specifically, so its not actually King Kong verse that has 2-C Kong?

Although the page lists 2 verses at once, huh? Is that common?
I get your point, but it doesn’t really change the fact that it’s still a King Kong incarnation. Because of that, it’s listed on the King Kong verse page alongside the other versions of the character.

As for the page listing two verses, yeah, that can happen sometimes with crossover or alternate versions.
 
I think the problem is that that version is from Castelvania specifically, so its not actually King Kong verse that has 2-C Kong?

Although the page lists 2 verses at once, huh? Is that common?
Without crossovers, the King Kong verse peaks at at least Low 7-C to 7-C, likely 6-C; with crossovers, it reaches 2-C.

Until someone makes a page for the new King Kong crossovers, which would easily place him at 1-A, on par with Godzilla.
 
Yeah but like, there is also stuff like Disney in Kingdom Hearts, shouldnt that mean every Disney character in KH that has T1 should get buffed and listed?

I personally dont like this method but if this is a quirk of pages, then ig it might be forced by technicality tho I could just ignore these situations teehee
 
The X-Men Film verse (actually called FOX's X-Men) now peaks at "At least 5-A, likely higher", "Possibly Low 4-C" and "High 3-A with Creation". And the MCU specifically is 7-D at 1-C
 
Yeah but like, there is also stuff like Disney in Kingdom Hearts, shouldnt that mean every Disney character in KH that has T1 should get buffed and listed?

I personally dont like this method but if this is a quirk of pages, then ig it might be forced by technicality tho I could just ignore these situations teehee
I get what you mean, but King Kong is a bit different. His versions are usually treated more like different takes on the same character rather than being tied to one strict canon, kind of like Godzilla. Because of that, it’s easier to group them together when talking about the verse.

Also, it really comes down to how you prefer to handle it. That’s why I separated King Kong’s peak into without crossovers and with crossovers, so you can organize it however you think works best. It’s your thread, after all.

As for Kingdom Hearts, I’m not too familiar with how its canon works with the Disney movies, so I can’t say much on that comparison.
 
Yeah but like, there is also stuff like Disney in Kingdom Hearts, shouldnt that mean every Disney character in KH that has T1 should get buffed and listed?

I personally dont like this method but if this is a quirk of pages, then ig it might be forced by technicality tho I could just ignore these situations teehee
Actually Disney should peak at T1 here since they own Sora and the rest of the KH original characters.
 
Who owns the verse doesnt matter, but crossovers significantly affecting another verse seems bad on cases where crossover cant be Canon to the original verse. I dont think original verse has Kong pull planes from his ass lol

Unless crossover is said to be Canon, Id rather ignore these. Technicalities be damned.
 
Who owns the verse doesnt matter, but crossovers significantly affecting another verse seems bad on cases where crossover cant be Canon to the original verse. I dont think original verse has Kong pull planes from his ass lol

Unless crossover is said to be Canon, Id rather ignore these. Technicalities be damned.
Toy Story profiles be like:
 
Who owns the verse doesnt matter, but crossovers significantly affecting another verse seems bad on cases where crossover cant be Canon to the original verse. I dont think original verse has Kong pull planes from his ass lol

Unless crossover is said to be Canon, Id rather ignore these. Technicalities be damned.
So it’s not considered canon just because Kong pulls planes out of nowhere? That feels a bit arbitrary. I also think it’s worth considering the explanation that every incarnation of Godzilla and Kong can be treated as part of their canon, regardless of the creator or the medium they appear in.
 
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So it’s not considered canon just because Kong pulls planes out of nowhere? That feels a bit arbitrary. I also think it’s worth considering the explanation that every incarnation of Godzilla and Kong can be treated as part of their canon, regardless of the creator or the medium they appear in.
Yeah, I agree. Godzilla and Kong have always had over-the-top moments, that’s just part of their characters.
 
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Yeah, I agree. Godzilla and Kong have always had over-the-top moments, that’s just part of their characters.
What are you talking about? Godzilla and Kong are clearly the most serious, dark, and edgy characters ever!
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The reading comprehension of this site, oy.

King Kong (Castelvania) shouldn't be used for the verse list, but not because its silly, but because King Kong (Castelvania) is not canon or featured in any other King Kong subverse as far as I am aware. And as for the verse King Kong (Castelvania) is featured in, which is Castelvania, that one is already in.

Someone said that all Kong verses should be split and uhh yeah? We do that to DC, Sonic, Dragon Ball, Godzilla and other verses too. So we can do that. Not like og Kong, 2005 Kong and Monsterverse Kong are canon to each other either afaik.
 
The reading comprehension of this site, oy.
I already said it’s up to you:

Also, it really comes down to how you prefer to handle it. That’s why I separated King Kong’s peak into without crossovers and with crossovers, so you can organize it however you think works best. It’s your thread, after all.

Someone said that all Kong verses should be split and uhh yeah? We do that to DC, Sonic, Dragon Ball, Godzilla and other verses too. So we can do that. Not like og Kong, 2005 Kong and Monsterverse Kong are canon to each other either afaik.
A significant number of users prefer to keep the Kong verse unified rather than splitting it.

By the way, Konami’s Kong has his own standalone games, and Konami World treats him as the same character, since his storyline with Lady Kong from King Kong 2: Megaton Punch is directly referenced. So even as a crossover appearance, he still qualifies as a canon Kong.
 
Oh there is King Kong (Konami) profile, someone was bored one day lol

Uhhhh guess we'll add that one day but Id stick to not adding Castlevania Kong as a specific Kong verse.
 
Actually, Castlevania Kong is also a Konami Kong, since Castlevania is a Konami property and these games were made during the period when Konami held the rights to use King Kong in video games.
Is there actual info/scans supporting this? Having a license doesn't necessarily indicate an unified canon.

Kong canon debate was not on my bingo card
 
Yes, do Konami Kong and Castlevania Kong actually share canon, no stutter. If they are the same individual, that kind of matters for canon. Its not an automatic thing that is guaranteed even if they have same maker.
 
Is there actual info/scans supporting this? Having a license doesn't necessarily indicate an unified canon.
...??? I don't think you got my point. I didn't say they're the same King Kong; I said that Castlevania Kong is also a Konami Kong. It's like saying Godzilla 2000 is also a Toho Godzilla. There's no canon merging anywhere in there. lol

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The reading comprehension of this site, oy.
 
Oh there is King Kong (Konami) profile, someone was bored one day lol
The reading comprehension of this site, oy.
Y'know, usually this kind of attitude doesn't lead anywhere good for users in this community... xD

Anyway, the different King Kong verses can get split someday, and I might do that one day if I'm less busy (and if I can't, I trust Apex or Oiguana do it in my stead ;p)
 
Y'know, usually this kind of attitude doesn't lead anywhere good for users in this community... xD

Anyway, the different King Kong verses can get split someday, and I might do that one day if I'm less busy (and if I can't, I trust Apex or Oiguana do it in my stead ;p)
I separated the King Kong verse for organizational purposes, as each represents a distinct continuity with its own scaling.

The peaks for each of the newly separated King Kong verses are as follows:
  • Original Series - 9-A
  • Paramount - High 8-C
  • Universal - 8-C
  • The King Kong Show - Low 7-C to 7-C, likely 6-C
  • The Mighty Kong - 8-A+
  • The Animated Series - Low 7-B
  • Gold Key Comics - 8-B
  • Gods of Skull Island - 8-C+
  • King Kong Games - 7-A
  • Theme Park Rides - High 8-C, possibly 8-A+ to Low 7-C

Note: Non-canon crossovers to the King Kong verses are not considered.
 
Also unironically for future can you people use this kind of format if you have a big list, dont put tiers next to verse, put them above them?:

High 8-C
King Kong (Theme Park Rides) (possibly High 8-A+ to Low 7-C)
Paramount
8-C
Universal
9-A
Original Series

K thx
 
Also unironically for future can you people use this kind of format if you have a big list, dont put tiers next to verse, put them above them?:

High 8-C
King Kong (Theme Park Rides) (possibly High 8-A+ to Low 7-C)
Paramount
8-C
Universal
9-A
Original Series

K thx
I understand, but what about characters with ‘Varies’ tiers or ‘+’ ratings? If everything is grouped under a single tier (e.g., 9-A), how would those distinctions be represented?
 
I understand, but what about characters with ‘Varies’ tiers or ‘+’ ratings? If everything is grouped under a single tier (e.g., 9-A), how would those distinctions be represented?
+ Rankings are top of certain tier, I would put those in same tier but as bolded plus. Varies I think I put to lowest first.
 
+ Rankings are top of certain tier, I would put those in same tier but as bolded plus. Varies I think I put to lowest first.
I understand the idea, but I’m not sure how the distinctions would actually be represented in practice. If everything is grouped under a single tier like 9-A or 8-C, and so on, how would I properly include ratings like ‘+’ or more complex ones like ‘At least Town level, likely Island level, possibly Universe level’? Those don’t fit cleanly into a single tier listing.
 
I understand the idea, but I’m not sure how the distinctions would actually be represented in practice. If everything is grouped under a single tier like 9-A or 8-C, and so on, how would I properly include ratings like ‘+’ or more complex ones like ‘At least Town level, likely Island level, possibly Universe level’? Those don’t fit cleanly into a single tier listing.
I agree with Apex that, in these cases, the most practical approach is to use a format like [Verse] - [Tier], as it’s unlikely people will consistently create separate titles for every ‘Varies’ tier or ‘+’ rating.
 

The Root's profile (finally) got updated, so Nasuverse/Type-Moon should be bumped up to Tier 0.
 
'Likely' and 'possibly' and not definitive classifications, so I put them always on lowest tier possible, at least so far I have done it that way. I put extra details on likely tiers and place them on top of tier bracket etc.

Hmmm I dont think we have blanket Varies Tier? Is there a legit verse that has Varies as its best tier?
 
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