Shoukd I limit both of them to 3-a to make it fair?
i guess you did that already and they both have wincons actually, both can one-shot eachother and DIO's 3-A key is with 36 Souls
nah it's fine we are doing this for fun tho
does dio always open with reality overwrite, if so why didnt he kill he joestrs with it. Gilgamesh is probably gonna start with its dura neg black hole or its ee. its ee is more likley as during our fight with him his consumption powers were sealed, and he ussually erasues things while adding them to his bodies. Hes in his unsealed form here
His main power is rewrite the reality and yes he uses it much, He absorbed Joestars with it, before 36 Soul his ability was limited to touch based method so he couldn't do so early also the stuff about Corpse part resisting and purifying DIO's abilities, btw DIO also has timestop which is still in character for him and it's layered as it is capable of bypassing Jotaro's timestop resistance, Jotaro has resistance to timestop due to feats happend in part 3 as he was able to move, see and think in the timestop, however Ascension DIO's timestop is improved and Jotaro can not even see in the timestop. DIO can start with timestop which is thought based and use RW on the Gilgamesh
thats interesting, when he was able to use it without touch based what was the first thing to do. Would gilgameshes time stop resistance be better, jotaros last for 5 while gilgameshes prevents the ability from ever activating in the first place.
you have two possibly rattings for his attack potency despite him only having one key
gilgamesh and tsubol are different keys
Teleport stuff and warping the area ig, he used it to teleport to Jotaro, Jolyne and warped the place
it's not about the duration that it's about him not even allowing Jotaro to see and think in the timestop because his 5 second is limited to moving in timestop but Jotaro is capable of thinking and seeing in the timestop without a said limit even after his ability to move in DIO's timestop for 3 seconds. It's a layer that Gilgamesh won't be able to move or think in it at all
i see is that some kind of passive or thought based ability?
why do you not have a key section on the profile?
So would he start with insta reality warping gilgamesh or teleporting and warping the area. Gilgamesh also can warp gravity around him so that may be annoying for dio
not really specified. Only info we realy have is he did it like a second after he regained his full power (theres a 7 minute timer till he regains his full power, and when the timer goes up he uses the ability)
we do look at the top of the profile, 2 different images, unless im misssing something
dude...
This is how profiles distinguish keys from each other
Ok, made the edits
you need to fix the stats and tiering too
the tp stuff is lowk for out of combat, in the fight he uses TS, RW, Lightning bolts, Corruption so yeah i think DIO's TS would be quicker as it is instant and though based
i see but it seem to be an activated ability rather than passive
cuz passive is like something always active in the fight
Key: Sealed Gilgamesh | Unsealed Gilgamesh | TSUBOLASTA | Unsealed TSUBOLASTA | Space Time Absorption
those are keys
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would this work, if not illl just paste what u said
Attack Potency: Planet level (Far superior to Alrasid, who is superior to the Planet Buster), possibly Universal Level when fully unsealed (Gilgamesh gets stronger the more reality it consumes, with each reality adding onto its body. At its full power, it should be superior to Astaroth, who's final attack was stated to destroy an entire Craftwars realm, which is stated to be a universe. Should be far superior to Fiscus, who is the reason the egg world is shattered. The egg world is stated to be a universe), At most Universe level+ with space-time absorption (Was stated to be able to consume the time continuum, which should make it as strong as it physically due to it adding consumed things onto his body) | Planet level, Possibly Universe Level fully unsealed (Stronger than before), At most Universe level+ with space-time absorption
thnk u so much
could i see some clips of him fighting if you dont mind, id be happy to do the samethe tp stuff is lowk for out of combat, in the fight he uses TS, RW, Lightning bolts, Corruption so yeah i think DIO's TS would be quicker as it is instant and though based
i see but it seem to be an activated ability rather than passive
it's in the clips i've been shared but here we are a Tornado that blinds the opponent for 11 seconds, thunderbolts, Reality Warping & EE and Power Nullification i also shared the ts in the previous clips it might seem to tp but it's actually ts that we hear timestop sound effect from it and he calls the world over heaven which he does in his classic counterpart in timestop scenes
from the clip ive seen he just charged up to jotaro. Im still iffy on timestop because gilgameshes resistance to timestomp dosent let him move in timesotp, it prevents the ability from activating.
it would be NLF to assume if Gilgamesh can do an action in layered ts, he doesn't have layer so this ability of him will also be not do anything in timestop unless he have BDE Type 1 or layered resistance, DIO just stops time and uses RW on him he also has fate manipulation similiar to Jotaro's which would help him in vs
im not saying that gilgamesh can move in layered timestop. Gilgameshes timestop resistance works by preventing the ability from being used, not by moving in timestop (
that's weird so it prevents the ability to stop time? or the abilities used during stopped time, if the first one this isn't resistance to timestop but power nullification which also DIO can overpower as he overpowered Golden Experience Requiem who has Casuality manip + Power Nullification, if the second one this means he is capable of using a power during stopped time which should give him a limited resistance similiar to Jotaro's as they are capable of performing an action with or without moving, the layer covers it as i have said before
true, so time stop would probably get the job done. The thing im concerned about is if dio starts with it or not. I think gilgameshes thing may be though based as he dosent really do anything to indicated he started reality consuming. hes just moving like he normaly does and it just happens
well it is noted in his Attack Techs and should be comparable to his part 3 self, as he spams timestop i think it would be fine to assume TS can be his first move
would it be best to consider this icnon. You can make a solid argument for gilgameshes abilites being thought based
isn't incon like when both fighters can not kill eachother? if so that's not the case they can kill eachother very easily, i can wait for more supporters to show up and see their arguments i have no idea about how Gilgamesh's stuff work in the first place, like i see the ee he just makes a splash and the server gets deleted which still requieres a hand motion, like he does some move with sword and then it happens that's not exactly thought based, idk about other abilities he has i will check them later
his ee requires a hand motion. His absorption, fusionism and spatial manipulation is instant/though based. He cannonically starts with that in his unsealed key which he is in rn
