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This isn't a "If you ask I'll do it" thing, you pretty much have to provide pictures and translations for proof at minimum. Otherwise, no one's going to accept this lol
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Pretty clear issue with All For One's profile
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That can be arranged.
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Raw:
The translations will be using ChatGPT but we will have the translation team verify it. Should be as accurate as possible given its a premium AI translation.
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“A world where everyone can live with smiles”At a time when the darkness of the world ran deep, inside the heart of a certain quirkless boy was a belief—
that in order to cut through the spiral of sorrow and hatred, something was needed.
That something was the “Symbol of Peace.”
Through his fateful encounter, that conviction began to move forward—
not as a superficial victory, but as the beginning of a path toward true peace.
Dialogue
- “For that, a symbol is necessary.”
- “I want to create a world where everyone can smile.”
Side Caption
“Born quirkless—yet determined to fulfill that role.”Main Title
“Will All For One crush all hope…?”“The wounds inflicted in this battle will have a massive impact on hero society.”
Main Text
All Might, who inherited One For All from his master Shimura, became its eighth successor.However, the evil mastermind working behind the scenes—All For One—took his master from him,
and their fated conflict was passed down as well.
While working as a hero, he cooperated with Gran Torino—his master’s ally—and the police,
continuing to pursue All For One. Eventually, the time for a direct confrontation came.
In a deadly battle where both sides suffered grave injuries, All Might emerged victorious.
However, even this defeat had already been woven into the villain’s plans.
Bottom Section
“USJ Attack Incident”A villain attack targeting the “Symbol of Peace.”
Despite the irregular situation, he rushed to the scene alone and faced a Nomu with overwhelming power.
Pushing past his limits, he fought with sheer strength and protected the students.
Right Panel (Izuku Midoriya)
- “I… will become a hero!!”
- “The emergence of a quirkless hero—
the actions that demonstrated that possibility moved people.
To the boy who had lost hope, the hero told him: ‘You can become one.’”
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敵 図解 (Villain Breakdown / Enemy Diagram)
巻き戻しによって若返る肉体
A body that becomes younger through “rewind”
Even though his body is burned during battle,
by using a drug that draws out the power of “rewind,”
he restores his body to its prime.
青年 / 少年 / 赤子
Young man / Boy / Infant
(Not a natural “Quirk,” but an effect caused by drug administration.)
Because of this, he cannot control it,
and even the disappearance of his body is already anticipated—he has prepared a “trump card.”
多種多様な攻撃
A wide variety of attacks
He can activate all the “Quirks” he has stolen in the past.
Furthermore, by combining them,
he can create unimaginable techniques.
(Top-right text)
A life-support device that assists his respiratory system,
damaged in his battle with heroes.
Its appearance is reminiscent of a demon king from old comics.
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There is no way Mirko should be scaled like this but I disagree with everything else
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Ok but this leads to the same problem as why the staffs disagreed
It is true they suffered grave injuries
All For One obliterated All Might's torso in an unknown way
All Might obliterated All For One's head in single punch
So the guidebook didn't add anything new and we're still stuck with the same contentions
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So you missed 死闘 which translates to this
死闘 - Jisho.org
jisho.org
It calls their battle a 'struggle' which still tells us they were on similar footing.
Why would All Might worry about attacks from a country level character when he has Continent AP and Dura??
Also refer to this image
Which clearly shows All Might was injured in more ways than just the gut wound.
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I saw the scans. They don’t really prove what you’ve been trying to say lol. Nobody here is arguing all might wasn’t injured. The issue is the fact we just don’t know by what. It can be literally ANYTHING. We don’t know. Every idea is as likely as the other.
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Please do tell us which quirks caused all of this.
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The quirks we see him use in the damn manga?? Why would ALL of the injuries he gave All Might be with random unknown hax quirks and then for him not to use them later on when we're literally told how he likes to fight? AFO uses long ranged attacks to weaken the opponent.
Rewind AFO also had access to all of his past quirks. Why would he not use his strongest ones that could contend with All Might?
Watch the anime or read the manga first. You can download the Shonen Jump+ app or access the anime on https://www.crunchyroll.com/
I would advise against commenting on a thread for media you haven't watched.
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That isn't very polite
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But to respond seriously, it would have been with all of the quirks we see him using post rewind or in flashbacks.
Stuff like:
Spearlike Bones
Rivet Stab
Unnamed Mouth quirk
Hypertrophy
The Screw quirk
Unnamed Faces quirk he likes combining with Rivet Stab
Impure Beam
Black Lightning quirk
Dark Ball
Razor Blade quirk
Spacial Warp
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It's possible he used Spacial Warp to inflict the gut wound (but not likely given his go-to is the mouth quirk combined with spearlike bones, which is what he used to deal a similar wound to Endeavor) but even so you would have to prove all of the injuries were via this Spacial Warp quirk alone when AFO loves spamming mostly the above quirks.
Ultimately the new evidence points to his AP being COMPARABLE to All Might's. Like the story directly implies and shows us.
Rewind AFO is also equal to Prime AFO. So he would scale post-rewind.
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He's literally asking me to tell him what he hasn't seen???
Which I did.
What about that isn't polite?
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You immediately replied after:
Implying your previous response wasn't serious. Which it wasn't. What you did was instead implicate him of not reading the manga in a clearly rude fashion. Idk if the other people are being dickheads to you, but if they are just be the better person.
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They have, but I will concede that my jab was in poor taste. So I will give an apology.
I apologize for the rude comment.
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Now I want you to prove any of these were the ones used to damage him.
Kamino-after he had lost a considerable amount of his original quirks
Shigarakis body EOS-After he had lost a massive amount of quirks to SNS
Early On with Rewind-where he hardly even used the amount of quirks we see he’s able to use at a single time.
In his younger form-not thinking clearly and like all might comments, making a bunch of mishmash quirk combos.
The quirks we see him use are normally used under a specific story framing. Meaning once again, we still don’t know what kind of shit he was pulling against all might
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Elaborate? Have you seen my scans and translations? I can provide the kanji if you have any problems.
Also, check the picture of post-fight All Might.
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Prove they weren't? Show me the hypothetical Hax based quirks you're trying to implicate he used to injure Prime All Might. Why would Horikoshi give us Prime All For One in Rewind AFO and then not have him use all of his primary quirks??Now I want you to prove any of these were the ones used to damage him.
Kamino-after he had lost a considerable amount of his original quirks
Shigarakis body EOS-After he had lost a massive amount of quirks to SNS
Early On with Rewind-where he hardly even used the amount of quirks we see he’s able to use at a single time.
In his younger form-not thinking clearly and like all might comments, making a bunch of mishmash quirks combos.
The quirks we see him use are normally used under a specific story framing. Meaning once again, we still don’t know what kind of shit he was pulling against all might
Um. The 'early on' version is him directly from six years ago. So Prime AFO. The one who fought All Might in a 'mortal struggle' according to the databook.
'In his younger form-not thinking clearly and like all might comments, making a bunch of mishmash quirks combos.'
Uh.. what are you saying here? He's stronger than his prime when he fights Armored All Might until he becomes a child.
You mean like Rivet Stab? Spearlike Bones? The Mouth quirk? Hypertrophy? All ones shown to us in flashbacks of his Prime self.
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He started using ranged attacks after fighting Nana Shimura. So it would have been against Prime All Might.
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Could you take a look at my images and translations? I know this thread is a bit of a mess but I can compile everything in an easier to read format if necessary.
All I'm trying to prove is that Prime AFO is relative to Prime All Might (right now Prime AFO is Country level while Prime AM is Continent level)
And that Rewind AFO (from the final arc) is equal to Prime AFO via databook scans stating he was back to his Prime strength and had access to all of his past stolen quirks.
All I'm trying to prove is that Prime AFO is relative to Prime All Might (right now Prime AFO is Country level while Prime AM is Continent level)
And that Rewind AFO (from the final arc) is equal to Prime AFO via databook scans stating he was back to his Prime strength and had access to all of his past stolen quirks.
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Only VS Staff can ping users.
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Apologies. Removed it.
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I meant you can highlight a user's name, they just won't be notified unless if you're a staff lol.
You can go to their wall instead and ask them there to check your CRT, specifically thread mods and admins.
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Thankyou. I contacted one.
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You can ask for them to be translated here.
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I will. Just waiting to get more input and discussion.You can ask for them to be translated here.
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I've ran the kanji through Jisho and orher translator sites which all came up to be similar. But we'll still get the translation team verification.
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The truth is, I can't really comment on this, since it seems to rely largely on "verse scaling," not your average hax evaluation thread, a topic I know nothing about, since I've never watched MHA.
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Damn. Uh- Is there anybody else you could tag?
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This isn’t my burden lol? You asserted he used those quirks. I am casting doubt to your claim. If you can’t prove it then like I said before it just becomes dismissible under hitchens razor.
You missed the point again man. that version of AFO hardly used any quirks. He used two attacks, one was composed of a wing quirk, with orbs, and lighting imbued into an attack we’ve seen him use when weakened. So it’s not even like he’s using whole new quirks either. The second attack was the lighting again, and then he got rewound into a younger state.
here too, I never said anything about his strength. Just that he wasn’t using normal nor proper quirk combinations due to his rage.
I have no idea why you think hori had the obligation to showing off his “primary quirks”, just because he went back to his prime? why would they need to be primary ones or the ones he used against all might. Especially if he’s fighting a bunch of fodder he looks down upon bar dark shadow.
All this is to say that once again, like I have been saying. WE DONT KNOW WHAT DAMAGED ALL MIGHT. He had an ENDLESS supply of quirks and anytime we see him he’s again, either not using all that he can, or his body/mind are limited.
And I don’t get where this incredulity is coming from (aside from the fact, your profile is “allforone” which tells me you’re a diehard fan). AFO has had several decades to prepare for a fight with prime all might. Someone he’s been studying FOR years. Someone he acknowledges as Godlike. Do you suppose AFO, who has back up plans to his back up plans, wouldn’t come equipped with an extra layer of insurance in case his beloved ranged attacks weren’t sufficient? Quirks and attacks that aren’t just AFO going ap for ap with someone he thinks he has no chance of beating.
So again, we know nothing. Any assertion that it was normal attacks is baseless.
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Then don't ask rhetorical questions when simple reading comprehension can answer it for you. I already told you this but you failed to heed my answer. I'll explain it again so you can understand since you requested more assistance.
We see what quirks he has in the show. They are what he used. Did we se him directly on-screen do it? No. But it's pretty clearly implied and we have no rational reason to doubt it. Especially since we know AFO likes overwhelming opponents with brute force via long ranged attacks given his power fantasy.
Databook says he had access to his past quirks via rewinding. We have flashback panels showing him using various quirks I've listed. So we can simply infer they were in his arsenal six years ago before the first injury since we have seen him using them before.
Read the manga.
I fail to see how this correlates with the discussion? He was not using them because he didn't believe they were necessary on fodder heroes and that was his downfall. He underestimated his enemies like his character is known to do.
This doesn't mean he can't? All Might doesn't directly blow up a continent on screen but yet we can still rate him as that tier via other information?
Why would he use random unknown hax quirks to damage All Might and then not use them again later when the story gives him the special opportunity to do so? Horikoshi showed us all the quirks All For One likes to use. They are what he used to damage All Might either by themselves or through combinations.
Just because he 'probably' has more quirks doesn't mean anything. You're simply trying to prove he used non-existent quirks because you don't want him to get the upgrade. When there is no reason to doubt that he used the very same arsenal of quirks that he uses in the actual manga.
I'd be down for that if nothing else. But I believe this warrants more discussion.
There are plenty of other VS wiki profiles with stats or abilities assumed despite not being directly shown on-screen by a character.
This is why they teach reading comprehension in school. So people don't have to be hand held throughout reading a comic book or any other media.
Sigh.
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Oh yeah, forgot about this part of your post. Kindly do not make assumptions of bias based on my profile name. I'll take an apology if you don't mind as I showed you a similar courtesy.
The burden of proof is on you to convince me he even had access to these hypothetical complex hax quirks you're trying to push. He didn't get his hands on just the Super Regeneration quirk until sometime after the first fight.
We are also shown with Kamino AFO's quirkset that he actually adapted to a more technical fighting style after losing to All Might. So he picked up quirks like Air Cannon, Springlike limbs, Warping, and Impact Recoil.
Would you like scans of all the quirks we see Prime AFO using in flashbacks? All of them are brute force quirks like we see him using on-screen throughout the story.
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