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JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Discussion Thread IV: Diamond is Unbreakable

Hey real quick, how strong was Soft & Wet, Tusk, Stone Free, GE, and more 33 chapters into their respective parts?
We were seeing way more interesting stuff from GE and Soft & wet with even less chapters then we have ever seen with Jodio

like how long does he need to do something cool the entire manga ?
 
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We were seeing way more interesting stuff from GE and Soft & wet with even less chapters then we have ever seen with Jodio
No, you were simply seeing their abilities used normally. GE's ability is straight up just life creation, what does he actually do with it that's super wild and unconventional? Make fish, flies? The two things he used at the start and never again?

NR has used his ability in the ways you'd expect, and also shit like setting traps, starting fires, and the extreme precision of it enables unconventional plays like making forcefields, micro aiming, and more.

And note how you conveniently ignored Stone Free and Tusk. "Stands with more versatile abilities use them more versatility". Ok in that framing then, how long did it take Star Platinum to do anything interesting with its kit? 50 for one? 150 for the next? He's 90% punching, 9% using punching unconventionally, 1% anything else.
like how long does he need to do something cool the entire manga ?
He already has done cool shit, you're just finding ways to complain about it and it's obnoxious.

"He hasn't done anything wild", not entirely true, but neither have most of the main JoJo Stands, why are you comparing him to the most versatile ones and ignoring he's already done more than the straightforward ones?
"He isn't super strong", ok, and most of the main JoJo Stands are even weaker than he is at the current point he's at. Why are you comparing it to like Star Platinum, but ignoring how he'd stomp Stone Free or S&W or whoever at this point in time? Honestly, he might just beat Stone Free now in general.

Why are you taking the opposite extreme for both ends, "only compare to Plat for stats but not versatility", "compare to S&W for versatility but not stats", etc. Like what are you doing?

Anyway the 4 I mentioned pre ch40 for all of them are more like, 9-B, 9-B, 9-B, 9-B.
Speedwise, supersonic, supersonic, hypersonic, MHS.
LS wise, Class 5, actual dogshit I'm stronger, Class 5, Class 5.

Meanwhile November Rain is what, 9-B+ to 9-A? Class M, and MHS?

Why do you only ever show up to complain that JoJo isn't unga bunga power escalation right out of the gate and hasn't been since before you were born?
 
Bro how are we 33 chapters in and Jodio stand is still so weak
No it ain't? First off, the force on NR is absolutely crazy. Iirc, Chariot mentioned to me like 90% of mfs in the verse couldn't withstand its force and would get crushed (maybe not die immediately, but they'd definitely get immobilized).

Secondly, almost every other main character stand is weak for most of the story. Stone Free, Tusk, and I wanna even say CD are Tier 9 for a good portion of their part.
 
No, you were simply seeing their abilities used normally. GE's ability is straight up just life creation, what does he actually do with it that's super wild and unconventional? Make fish, flies? The two things he used at the start and never again?

NR has used his ability in the ways you'd expect, and also shit like setting traps, starting fires, and the extreme precision of it enables unconventional plays like making forcefields, micro aiming, and more.

And note how you conveniently ignored Stone Free and Tusk. "Stands with more versatile abilities use them more versatility". Ok in that framing then, how long did it take Star Platinum to do anything interesting with its kit? 50 for one? 150 for the next? He's 90% punching, 9% using punching unconventionally, 1% anything else.
Him not using it again doesn’t matter as he still showcased more interesting stuff in his first few chapters then November did in 33 of them also I’m not even strictly talking about punching power his ability is bad he doesn’t have any interesting stuff like Soft & Wet or GE has And tusk was actively evolving as the series went on November is not nothing supports him getting some crazy new ability in the future literally the only way he could get anything is if he gains some sort requiem level buff at this rate
He already has done cool shit, you're just finding ways to complain about it and it's obnoxious.

"He hasn't done anything wild", not entirely true, but neither have most of the main JoJo Stands, why are you comparing him to the most versatile ones and ignoring he's already done more than the straightforward ones?
"He isn't super strong", ok, and most of the main JoJo Stands are even weaker than he is at the current point he's at. Why are you comparing it to like Star Platinum, but ignoring how he'd stomp Stone Free or S&W or whoever at this point in time? Honestly, he might just beat Stone Free now in general.

Why are you taking the opposite extreme for both ends, "only compare to Plat for stats but not versatility", "compare to S&W for versatility but not stats", etc. Like what are you doing?

Anyway the 4 I mentioned pre ch40 for all of them are more like, 9-B, 9-B, 9-B, 9-B.
Speedwise, supersonic, supersonic, hypersonic, MHS.
LS wise, Class 5, actual dogshit I'm stronger, Class 5, Class 5.

Meanwhile November Rain is what, 9-B+ to 9-A? Class M, and MHS?

Why do you only ever show up to complain that JoJo isn't unga bunga power escalation right out of the gate and hasn't been since before you were born?
He hasn’t done anything cool and he can’t because his ability doesn’t allow for such stuff his abilities sucks he has nothing cool or interesting that most the other characters had he can’t do anything interesting and he shows no signs of him going to get some major power up any time soon
 
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No it ain't? First off, the force on NR is absolutely crazy. Iirc, Chariot mentioned to me like 90% of mfs in the verse couldn't withstand its force and would get crushed (maybe not die immediately, but they'd definitely get immobilized).

Secondly, almost every other main character stand is weak for most of the story. Stone Free, Tusk, and I wanna even say CD are Tier 9 for a good portion of their part.
90% of the verse would be immobilized by any stand hitting them because their stands are the ones with the abilities why they are like just superhuman stats wise you act like 33 chapters is the manga just starting its been going on for good bit
 
I’m not where is strong hax abilities especially 33 chapters in 😭😭
Why do you care? The story is good, and so far the abilities have been interesting? Only one I'd really agree was as was Glory Days, but genuinely I feel like you are getting all bent out of shape over nothing.

And tbh, there haven't been majorly strong abilities consistently in JoJo since like, Part 5. Most of the stands in parts 6-9 are subtle hax, and the only reason many of them scale high is cause of returning abilities like Star Platinum, The World, Killer Queen, and now Heaven's Door.
 
Him not using it again still doesn’t matter he still showcased more interesting stuff in his first few chapters then November did in 33 of them
By this logic NR already has one off niche things like micro precision.
also I’m not even strictly talking about punching power
You've complained constantly about stats. Do not backpedal now that your own arguments have become totally incoherent.
his ability is bad
How is danmaku gravity rain bad when he can control each individual drop with extreme precision as shown when he used it to deflect a bullet inside his own mouth, to hit only specific targets, kill a micro stand, etc. How is it bad when a single one of those drops outstats some Stands like Stone Free? How is it bad when a single one of those drops weighs multiple times more than 90% of the verse can even lift? How is it bad when the range exceeds almost every Power Type Stand+their LS, making him untouchable from most. How is it bad when that's just horizontal, vertical range is at least tens of meters.
he doesn’t have any interesting stuff like Soft & Wet
You mean the dude who's ability was soap for half the part and could only take physical properties with numerous caveats to it?
or GE has
GE's entire ability is simply creating life, that's exactly what he does with it and doesn't veer off for 99% of the part until he gets Requiem.
And tusk was actively evolving as the series went on
At ch 33, what was Tusk at again? Please remind me when we, the readers, found out it could evolve? That is rhetorical, there was no such thing as "Tusk Act 1" for the majority of the part, it was simply Tusk till Soundman. If Part 7 was ongoing now, you'd be making the same exact complaints, worse even because all Tusk Act 1 is a single limited projectile that needs recharge, while NR is basically that x 10,000 without recharge + hax built in.

Oh and what about Stone Free? Why do you keep cherry picking and ignoring all the Stands that have less than NR?
November is not nothing supports him getting some crazy new ability in the future
Besides the fact it's been stated multiple times he uses gravity. The flags couldn't be any more obvious wat that implies for later.
He hasn’t done anything cool and he can’t because his ability doesn’t allow for such stuff
Yeah you're right, gravity and controlling round objects doesn't allow for anything
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his abilities sucks he has nothing cool or interesting that most the other characters had he can’t do anything interesting and he shows no signs of him going to get some major power up any time soon
Oh yep, nothing cool, not like he and a rock with concept and law manip.
I'm going to say it once, and only once. You're obnoxious. Why do you come here, ONLY to whine about an ongoing part, early in no less, not having the stats and abilities of characters at the end of other parts, while ignoring he's already clearing most of, let alone when they were at chapter 30~, all while ignoring blatant flags and acting like shit is impossible in the part where the last part had someone who's ability was making lil soap bubs end up as being law breaking void manip shit.
 
I’m not where is strong hax abilities especially 33 chapters in 😭😭
Where was Star Platinum's, Stone Free's, and more. Actually why stop there, what about Pol's, Kakyoin's, Koichi's, Ermes, Mamezuku, Joubin's, Mista's, and the billion other main characters?
 
Besides the fact it's been stated multiple times he uses gravity. The flags couldn't be any more obvious wat that implies for later.

Yeah you're right, gravity and controlling round objects doesn't allow for anything
tusk-jjba.gif
Yeah, don't know why people are pulling a JJK and forgetting that the infinite spin and even Made in Heaven use gravity in their applications iirc. Jodio has potential to be the 2nd most busted Joestar if Araki doesn't introduce some BS that rivals GER.
 
We were seeing way more interesting stuff from GE and Soft & wet with even less chapters then we have ever seen with Jodio

like how long does he need to do something cool the entire manga ?
Phantom, Jodio gonna go crazy soon, trust the process + he be cool w the gang n all
 
Araki said it was still very early not to long ago. We're probably right after the equivalent of "I am a Rock" or "Scary Monsters" based on the pacing.
Plus with how the series started off with triple digits for its chapter count, we're likely on our way for a hundred chapters. Assuming Araki keeps this pace of about 10 chapters a year up, there's about 6 to 7 years ahead.
 
Besides the fact it's been stated multiple times he uses gravity. The flags couldn't be any more obvious wat that implies for later.
And as we know from part 6, Fate and Gravity are deeply connected, so a set up for fate stuff is possible
 
So, uh, I think this question has been asked several times before, sorry, but I can't find any clear answers:

Why does the Dio from part 7 scale at the same speed as the Dio from parts 1-6? Is it still planned to be kept or will it be removed in the future with a CRT since the SBR pages are outdated?
 
So, uh, I think this question has been asked several times before, sorry, but I can't find any clear answers:

Why does the Dio from part 7 scale at the same speed as the Dio from parts 1-6? Is it still planned to be kept or will it be removed in the future with a CRT since the SBR pages are outdated?
Kept but made more exclusive (only like 3 things would scale, 99% of the part would be scaling to diff values nd feats).
Value would change a bit anyway, less Part 3 DIO and more TW's minimum baseline given p7 TW would have lacked blood amps.
 
the ep was soooooooooooooooo fufing peak!!!! also how come yall don't talk about it in here fake jojo fans!!!!!!!!!
 
the ep was soooooooooooooooo fufing peak!!!! also how come yall don't talk about it in here fake jojo fans!!!!!!!!!
Because we talk about it in chat instead like 99% of the time
 
Does Kars has any realistic wincons in match against Raiden, or Raiden just resists/shrugs off everything he can throw at him?
 
Usagi's got like the worst parent out of any main team member that isn't Trish or Giorno. His mom's right up there with Johnny's dad. I would not be trying to save her if I was him, but at the same time that villain guy sucks and has to be stopped. Also he's GOTTA get his sister away from both of them bro.
 

Matchup dates announced
 
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