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Madness Combat Discussion Thread: Redeemer

Fair

Also I think Corruption should be of both types, since through franchise Dissonance is portrayed in various aggregate forms (pure energy clot, fire, electricity, physical liquid in which you can even swim, and was even described as radiation)
 
Also, I realized for a better support of Paraconsisten physiology, The Disquieted One's description mentions that all nevadeans are part of some algorithmic code/system, and the machine sees Nevada as a story and system it operates. Dissonance would be illogical to that system and same with Gestalt
 
Would you guys consider calculating the volume of a Nevadean using the equation for cylinder valid or do you think it'll instantly get shot down?

Edit: Tried it, got around 8-B to 8-A+ for regular nevadeans to Mag Agents.
 
Comiphorous said:
Would you guys consider calculating the volume of a Nevadean using the equation for cylinder valid or do you think it'll instantly get shot down?

Edit: Tried it, got around 8-B to 8-A+ for regular nevadeans to Mag Agents.
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This atomization works on the robots, so i'm gonna have to figure out how to find to volume of crusher bots and see how that works out for me.
 
Comiphorous said:
Would you guys consider calculating the volume of a Nevadean using the equation for cylinder valid or do you think it'll instantly get shot down?

Edit: Tried it, got around 8-B to 8-A+ for regular nevadeans to Mag Agents.
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I mean their bodies are cylinders, I don't see why it would be a problem
 
Comiphorous said:
This atomization works on the robots, so i'm gonna have to figure out how to find to volume of crusher bots and see how that works out for me.
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Can you also try sub-atomization? I remember my friend made a sub atomic calc for clockworkers and got 6-C but I don't think the calc is good, I stopped using it a long time ago, and also probably not consistent.
 
CitRusReality64 said:
Can you also try sub-atomization? I remember my friend made a sub atomic calc for clockworkers and got 6-C but I don't think the calc is good, I stopped using it a long time ago, and also probably not consistent.
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Does any weapon have sub-atomization statements? I thought at best we had atomization for weapons.
 
Comiphorous said:
Does any weapon have sub-atomization statements? I thought at best we had atomization for weapons.
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The dissonance lancer
CitRusReality64 said:
Oh, it's a description from the Dissonance Lancer
the site won't load the image correctly for what every reason but yeah
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If you can't see or use the link I will upload it to VSBW tomorrow (it's really late and I'm not on pc right now)
 
CitRusReality64 said:
The dissonance lancer

If you can't see or use the link I will upload it to VSBW tomorrow (it's really late and I'm not on pc right now)
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the dissonance lancer only says stuff about super heated particles, (does this count as sub-atomic??) and other weapons don't mention much different beyond atomic.
 
Do you think calc members would kill me for just using the volume of a human and making it steel? lowkey don't know how to calculate the volume of humanoid figures.
 
CitRusReality64 said:
I don't see why not. But It wouldn't hurt to try and ask
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Using human volume, you get High 7-C+. I'm basing the calculation on Clockwreckers, so it'll be a lot higher than that.



So most profiles are gonna be something like; High 8-C, likely 8-A physically; up to [Clockwrecker vaporization tier] with Dissonant Weaponry.

I'm very hesitant to scale it to them physically, especially of the weight Dissonance carries in universe, it'd be strange for 70% of the cast to be equal with it.
 
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Looking through several other calculations, it seems that most people just use standard human volume if they're humanoid, so i shall do that and make two ends, one for a clockworker and a clockwreaker.
 
Comiphorous said:

Small City level. I'm not gonna scale it to the physicals of any of the main cast besides maybe Gestalt but hey. Tier 7 Madness.
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For who would get a rating out of this;

Hank, Sanford, Deimos, and Jesus (Via weapons; all get their hands on Dissonant weapons in the science tower)

Tricky the Clown (Hofnarr only via weapons; Stated himself he could weaponize Dissonance. No other keys just based off the fact he doesn't have access to said resources after the fall of the nexus core)

S-3LF Eater (Via Weapons; 99% sure his Tri-Launcher is a dissonant weapon, so he gets this)

Project: Gestalt (Durability; Can withstand hits from high doses of Dissonance from the Divergence Engine, and specifically requires dissonance to hurt it.)

Basically every friendly character in the Arena Mode (The Arena Mode character either buys from characters who have them, or can give characters in that mode Dissonant Weapons)

Everyone else doesn't get this rating and is a bum!!!!!
 
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Comiphorous said:
Using human volume, you get High 7-C+. I'm basing the calculation on Clockwreckers, so it'll be a lot higher than that.



So most profiles are gonna be something like; High 8-C, likely 8-A physically; up to [Clockwrecker vaporization tier] with Dissonant Weaponry.

I'm very hesitant to scale it to them physically, especially of the weight Dissonance carries in universe, it'd be strange for 70% of the cast to be equal with it.
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I guess that is fair. But I could consider some characters like Mag Hank and gestalt scale to it, since Hank charges his own ap with electricity dissonance.
 
Wait, I think I found it.

That's said, I still don't trust that scan and Krinkels' reaction could have been caused by the fact that he was gaslighted into believing that he once said it
 
Hey, but at least it is higher than a previous 8-A calc and I guess you can say it adds consistency (granted you will use it to scale to physicality, which we probably wouldn't)
 
My calc on the clockworkers could get up to Mountain level (if i did the math right this time) if there was proof of sub-atomic destruction, not sure if there is anything on that though. some weapon descriptions mention superheated particles but that's it.
 
Comiphorous said:
My calc on the clockworkers could get up to Mountain level (if i did the math right this time) if there was proof of sub-atomic destruction, not sure if there is anything on that though. some weapon descriptions mention superheated particles but that's it.
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I guess superheated particles is not enough evidence for support of sub-atomization
 
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