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My glorious Sukuna knew of his plans that’s why he bullied him
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Chainsaw Man discussion thread
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Chainsaw Man: A KickBack In Calcs
Introduction This thread is simple. Its purpose is to address a calc that need renovation. And which is currently being used on the verse page; 28% Gun Devil Erupts from Mount Elbrus: 7-C (35.89 Kilotons of TNT) Don't worry about scaling, this is a calc group discussion, so scaling will be...
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Anonymous_Learner
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An IQ too high?
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then cant she like get all the devil hunters to do everything as fast as possible against an opponent
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Makima doesn't fight like that. It's more like a game of chess for her.
Breadbear83
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Snake devil downgrade? And here I was thinking of doing a recalc where based on his size as a snake he may have Subsonic+ speed from being much larger, which lead to town level AP from higher KE, inspired from Orochimaru snake from Naruto, but probably that logic wouldn't have been accepted anywaysChainsaw Man: A KickBack In Calcs
Introduction This thread is simple. Its purpose is to address a calc that need renovation. And which is currently being used on the verse page; 28% Gun Devil Erupts from Mount Elbrus: 7-C (35.89 Kilotons of TNT) Don't worry about scaling, this is a calc group discussion, so scaling will be...vsbattles.com
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i mean what if its like a death matchup where she genuaianly has to kill the person asap
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Not sure if it will even get removed. I'm unsure about it as a whole, I'm just questioning it's vadility.
Conquest, bio point and stare should be enough.
Anonymous_Learner
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Dura Neg Bio manipulation, Cosmo, Hell Devil, Zombie Devil, and Santa Clause (Latter two if opponent is human) usually get the job done
Breadbear83
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Fujimoto happily watching that new Disney movie about beavers while mfs be posting this kind of shit:
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Bro… Themes and such
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VoidGoji
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Anyone?
Breadbear83
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Classify as what kind of thing?
Once he goes inside his stomach, he should stop existing, physically and in history
Wouldn't change much whatever kind of conceptual manipulation or mind manipulation he has from his erasure ability
Breadbear83
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Btw anyone knows somewhere to read Chainsaw Man Buddy stories? It may be hard for me to buy it in English here in Argentina, it interested me to read it for entertaining and maybe for scaling, like a mannequin and loneliness Fiend Profile
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eres de argentina?
Breadbear83
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Si, si chequeas mí perfil verás que ahí lo digo
Edit: si me vas a hablar en español mejor que sea por mí message wall porque los lugares públicos del foro se habla inglés, pero igual se inglés
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understanded
Breadbear83
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The fact that he's working on McDonald's implies that he's not in debt to the yakuzas in that timeline else they would had killed him to get his organs or make him a sex worker like the old man told him in front of his father's grave, yet bro still selled his right eye for money (or worse, his ******** too)
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Denji managed to hop into a train and escaped the Yakuza after selling his organs. They tried to find him foe a while, but he was already in another city. It all happened around the same time they made a deal with zombie devil, so Devil hunters wiped them out before they had a chance.
Breadbear83
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You know kobeni's here too, in the original timeline she technically left public safety because the strongest and most terrifying devil's were around her because of chainsawman hearth (the eternity devil, the Yakuza raid, rezee, she getting send to hell because a bunch of people wanted chainsawman hearth) so kobeni in this timeline retired from being scared of fodder devils
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Hey Bear, do you think that Falling launching this building at Yoru would yield some good KE results?
Breadbear83
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Ok by first glance, if that building had a weight of 1000 tons (1 million kg, prob and highball) and was going at baseline supersonic speed (by scaling from buddy stories base quanxi being faster than sound statement) then the calc would be:
1000000 (weight in kg) * 0.5 * 377.3 (speed in m/s) ^2= 7.1177645e10 joules (17.01186 Tons of TNT, City Block Level)
I can't see how could I say that the building is going faster than baseline supersonic speed as the pacing is kinda vague on at what degree did it blitzed Yoru (Yoru wouldn't even upscale from quanxi supersonic statement as she got low diffed by base quanxi (unless you had good arguments to say that buddy stories quanxi is considerably weaker than part 1 and part 2 quanxi) if Yoru did upscale from it then yeah the building would be going at higher speeds than baseline supersonic to even get to blitz a supersonic Yoru) the building would need to go to at least Mach 7 speed to give Post Fear Yoru a durability upscale (at that speed it would be 688.91 Tons of TNT)
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I remember seeing a calculation that treated the impact on Mount Elbrus as pulverization, but it give like Large Mountain level, and honestly it wasn’t really consistent with the feat visually.Chainsaw Man: A KickBack In Calcs
Introduction This thread is simple. Its purpose is to address a calc that need renovation. And which is currently being used on the verse page; 28% Gun Devil Erupts from Mount Elbrus: 7-C (35.89 Kilotons of TNT) Don't worry about scaling, this is a calc group discussion, so scaling will be...
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I don't see why we'd use pulverization for that feat specifically either. K.E makes the most sense, to me at least.
Breadbear83
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Talking about gun devil scaling, it may ended up being used your 20% Gun Devil KE from going at Mach 25.8 speeds for the scaling, as 28% gun devil feat may be downgraded at a considerable degree
Also does anyone know in what CRT (it wasn't the new speed CRT) it was agreed about having 100% gun devil bullets being 5x times faster than 20% gun devil bullets (and so faster than makimas bangs)? It's about that if it Was pointed out about that 100% gun devil could also directly scale 5x times higher in travell speed than 20% gun devil?
Currently there's the Mach 25.8 20% gun devil travell speed feat (with KE of 21.67 kilotons Of TNT, thought the supportive AP calcs section in the verse page mistakenly gives it a 9.1 kilotons) and the Mach 312.86 100% Gun Devil travells across the world feat (with 15.94 Megatons of AP) where both would have a 12x times difference instead of 5x
Gun devil profile recognizes his different travell speed from 20% to 100% from his 2 feats
Thing is, 100% gun devil Massively hypersonic travell speed recognizes that while he goes at this speed, he loses parts of his body in the way, while 20% gun devil High Hypersonic Feat doesn't shows him losing parts of his body
So without feat scaling inconsistencies, he could have this acknowledged this way:
100% gun devil upscales 5x times from 20% gun devil feat of Mach 25.8, reaching Mach 129 (a lower speed where he wouldn't lose parts of his body now)
While 20% gun devil downscales 5 times from 100% gun devil feat of Mach 312.86, reaching Mach 62.57 speed (an higher speed where now he would lose parts of his body)
As 20% gun devil has 5 times less weight and speed than 100% gun devil, he would have a 125 (25x from speed) less ramming AP, and vice versa
Max ramming AP of Mach 62.57 20% gun devil being 127.52 Kilotons of TNT (Large Town Level) and 100% gun devil having an addition of a lower Ramming AP of 2.708 Megatons of TNT (Small City Level)
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By a bit yeah.
That was discussed in the latest speed CRT. And yes you could apply a multiplier to the current 20% Gun Devil speed and multiply it by 5. Mach 25.8 x 5 = Mach 129. That would then be applicable for scaling the 100% Gun Devil. But we already have a value for the 100% Gun, so that wouldn't be necessary. We also aren't calc stacking, considering this is just a multiplier value.
I forgot to update it from the old value. I updated it just now.
He only loses parts of his body over time and even then that is very unlikely. I am also considering having that removed in the future. Countries across the world possessed parts of the Gun Devil's body and the portions that burned off during his travel were incredibly small and insignificant compared to even 20% of his body.
It is likely that there are multiple explanations for what happened to the Gun Devil:
- Whoever defeated him caused his body to scatter globally which is why every country has a piece.
- Each country took a portion of the Gun Devil's body while fighting him and he was ultimately finished off after facing all of them (hence why 28% him was found defeated by the soviets, due to him taking a beating from someone else)
This would be a great alternative. If I wasn't planning to get the ramming stuff removed. Nice thinking though.
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I do have a new way to calc his speed for the Feat by calcing at what speed he would need to go for, in 37 seconds, by starting on Japan to china borders, run across china, get to india and then get to the USSR, which has to be an over 5000km path cuz his statements of countries he hit doesn't imply he took other routes with other countries, and that he would certainly get to china from Japan borders to not waste time by going from the southern oceans of india, even if weren't losing parts of his body by ramming, it's at least a waate of time going throught the ocean in inefficient paths or more than once to kill people
I got a blog with a proposed calc and a CGM thread, thought I made them when I was new on the wiki so if I don't procrastinate new week I'll clean it (the text in them is quite long), but the feat does seem to be possible to calc, just at different approaches
(ChainsawMan) Gun Devil travells across the world recalc revision request (speed feat that also affects an AP map (staff votes needed)
(MAKE SURE TO VOTE IF YOU THINK A RECALC IS NEEDED OR NOT AND IF MY RECALC BLOG IS ACCEPTED OR NOT, BOTH THINGS ARE SEPARATED THINGS) Link to My blog that explains all the arguments of here and give a recalc for it that is specifically about his path within china: back then in april 2019, user...
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If you want anyone to take a look at those it's best you clean them up and neaten them whenever you get the chance. No one wants to read something lengthy and messy. Once you fix them I have no doubt the chances of them being evaluated will increase significantly.
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I suppose that using a simple rule of three, this would give 28% Gun Devil a kinetic energy of 7.28 megatons.I do have a new way to calc his speed for the Feat by calcing at what speed he would need to go for, in 37 seconds, by starting on Japan to china borders, run across china, get to india and then get to the USSR, which has to be an over 5000km path cuz his statements of countries he hit doesn't imply he took other routes with other countries, and that he would certainly get to china from Japan borders to not waste time by going from the southern oceans of india, even if weren't losing parts of his body by ramming, it's at least a waate of time going throught the ocean in inefficient paths or more than once to kill people
I got a blog with a proposed calc and a CGM thread, thought I made them when I was new on the wiki so if I don't procrastinate new week I'll clean it (the text in them is quite long), but the feat does seem to be possible to calc, just at different approaches
(ChainsawMan) Gun Devil travells across the world recalc revision request (speed feat that also affects an AP map (staff votes needed)
(MAKE SURE TO VOTE IF YOU THINK A RECALC IS NEEDED OR NOT AND IF MY RECALC BLOG IS ACCEPTED OR NOT, BOTH THINGS ARE SEPARATED THINGS) Link to My blog that explains all the arguments of here and give a recalc for it that is specifically about his path within china: back then in april 2019, user...www.vsbattles.com
Breadbear83
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Ok I did a clean up of the blog to not be so repitive in it's explanations i may see if I can make it shorter but I tried to give a more brief description of the scans of the imgur post within the blog instead, so the imgur post with the scabs is only to show the scansI do have a new way to calc his speed for the Feat by calcing at what speed he would need to go for, in 37 seconds, by starting on Japan to china borders, run across china, get to india and then get to the USSR, which has to be an over 5000km path cuz his statements of countries he hit doesn't imply he took other routes with other countries, and that he would certainly get to china from Japan borders to not waste time by going from the southern oceans of india, even if weren't losing parts of his body by ramming, it's at least a waate of time going throught the ocean in inefficient paths or more than once to kill people
I got a blog with a proposed calc and a CGM thread, thought I made them when I was new on the wiki so if I don't procrastinate new week I'll clean it (the text in them is quite long), but the feat does seem to be possible to calc, just at different approaches
(ChainsawMan) Gun Devil travells across the world recalc revision request (speed feat that also affects an AP map (staff votes needed)
(MAKE SURE TO VOTE IF YOU THINK A RECALC IS NEEDED OR NOT AND IF MY RECALC BLOG IS ACCEPTED OR NOT, BOTH THINGS ARE SEPARATED THINGS) Link to My blog that explains all the arguments of here and give a recalc for it that is specifically about his path within china: back then in april 2019, user...
That's assuming if 28% gun devil had the same speed as 100% gun devil, which is unlikely, only would downscale to 28% of 100% gun devil weight, the speed difference would downscale 28% gun devil to somewhere around large town level
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I'm not sure if I am misinterpreting what you are saying, but just incase, do not get this twisted, because it is very important.
Right Gun Gauntlet =/= 28% Gun Devil AP.
It is a guilt based weapon, the most powerful one at that. Be careful on how you discuss it or you might make mistaken plans.
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I didn't mean that, I do get that Yoru gun gaunlet surpasses even 100% gun devil both in ramming and guns AP, but the bangs speed does scale to 28% gun devil attack speed
The likely speed downgrade in travell speed from 100% to 28% gun devil logically will give lower KE results, and in addition 28% gun devil weights less than 100% Gun devil, another downgrade
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I don't follow. What is the potential downgrade that needs discussion here? I am only aware of your 100% Gun Devil travel speed feat which is in fact an upgrade. Unless there are derivatives that need to be mentioned specifically.
Or is this about the ramming aspect regarding the 100% Gun Devil shredding due to K.E? I mentioned not to worry about it because I will address it. In fact it might be the very next CRT I plan to make given how simple it is.
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