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5-B Planet Tiersetter Tournament Round 1 Match 2: Uzi Doorman vs Jiraiya (Metal Heroes) (7-0-0) FINISHED

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Arena
  • Via SBA, Central Park.
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  • Starting Distance will be based on SBA. In this case 4 kilometers due to Uzi's Absolute Solver being planetary range
Match Conditions

  • Speed is equalized by default, but may remain unequalized if one character can mitigate the speed gap (e.g., through passives, resistances, durability advantages, etc.).
  • Matches will use SBA unless specified otherwise.
  • Rules are subject to changes on a per-match basis to make them fairer or more interesting
  • Wincon is via incapacitation or death
  • Combatants are allowed to magically view the other previous matches in-universe, except for the initial tiersetter match (hence, this only becomes effective from the quarter-finals onwards)

Match Rules

  • 3 days are given to both participating users to debate. Regardless of circumstances, I will decree the outcome of the match after the 3 days for the sake of the tourney's pacing. While they may/may not be added to the profiles, further votes can be given so that these matches are eligible to be added to the respective character's profiles
    • An exception can be made should the participating user notify everyone in this thread that they'd be inactive for a bit or some other situation. A further 1 day will be given for such exception
    • If you no longer have any reason or motivation to continue participating in this tournament, notify in the thread to have your combatant removed (and depending on the tourney time, a replacement can be issued)
  • Inconclusive matches are also subject to the above rule, but I will issue a coin flip to decide who advances (unless the votes have a 3-4 vote difference, at which it is completely subject to the first rule instead)


Uzi Doorman (Base) (701 ZT)Jiraiya (59.44 ZT)Le Incon (I have nothing for this)
7 (@Nonynho, @Psychomaster35, @Kirua29, @Niko, @Minaaaa, @Shadowslash125, @DaReaperMan)--
 
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I'll go on and submit Uzi Doorman (701 zettatons), make it her base form.
Would he work
Come
 
fair. looking at the guys profile he does have some things that could like like hypnosis, or attack reflection. He also has enhanced senses, extrasensosry percept and instincitive action which could all help. I watched murder drones a while ago and i dont thunk uzi has that much other than her railgun and physicals
 
So given the gap in AP, Uzi just straight up one-shots Jiraya here. And yes, she does have the Absolute Solver in base, it's just that it's on her level of AP and not Cyn's, so she really only needs telekinetically grab Jiraya's neck to snap it or just throw a black hole at him to win.
 
uh how does she lose to the tiersetter if she can just instantly snap their neck or smth
The tiersetter surprisingly resists a majority of Uzi's wincons last time I checked, which includes her main go-to moves of telekinesis and black holes. She does have Deconstruction that the tiersetter doesn't resist, but she never really uses that in-character in base as only her Solver form was willing to do that, plus it was only ever used once.
 
So given the gap in AP, Uzi just straight up one-shots Jiraya here. And yes, she does have the Absolute Solver in base, it's just that it's on her level of AP and not Cyn's, so she really only needs telekinetically grab Jiraya's neck to snap it or just throw a black hole at him to win.
How often would she go for telekinesis? For blackholes, they seem to be projectiles or take time to spawn in, Jiraiya can teleport to avoid them. He can already dodge attacks he can't see or hear by sensing them & keeping up with guys with IA who can teleport & those who see his every move before he thinks of it. Plus, he does have lightning he can drop on her should he need to so he can probably avoid NULL
 
No he can just do this on anything even on stuff he failed to cut earlier
That at least shows that Jiraya has a wincon, but he is at a massive range disadvantage against someone who commonly rangespams and has the potential to one-shot him with the sheer AP gap.
How often would she go for telekinesis? For blackholes, they seem to be projectiles or take time to spawn in, Jiraiya can teleport to avoid them. He can already dodge attacks he can't see or hear by sensing them & keeping up with guys with IA who can teleport & those who see his every move before he thinks of it. Plus, he does have lightning he can drop on her should he need to so he can probably avoid NULL
She uses telekinesis very often, which are typically done a hand point at the target she wants to attack. Also, the black holes, which just take a second to spawn, possess a grand amount of AoE (Beyond 4 kilometers mind you) that would make it very hard for Jiraya to not get hit by them, not to mention how the Uzi has been able to instinctively block attacks with the Absolute Solver's forcefields which only makes it even harder for her to be put down.

Unless Jiraya really goes for the finisher at the start, Uzi just needs a hand point to blow his head up and win, especially with her range advantage.
 
She uses telekinesis very often, which are typically done a hand point at the target she wants to attack. Also, the black holes, which just take a second to spawn, possess a grand amount of AoE (Beyond 4 kilometers mind you) that would make it very hard for Jiraya to not get hit by them, not to mention how the Uzi has been able to instinctively block attacks with the Absolute Solver's forcefields which only makes it even harder for her to be put down.
Time for the first convincing of this tournament...
 
Time for the first convincing of this tournament...
As I've said earlier:
The tiersetter surprisingly resists a majority of Uzi's wincons last time I checked, which includes her main go-to moves of telekinesis and black holes. She does have Deconstruction that the tiersetter doesn't resist, but she never really uses that in-character in base as only her Solver form was willing to do that, plus it was only ever used once.
 
Her lifting strength doesn't matter when her AbsoluteSolver can manipulate the weight or mass of the target. (Although i don't think that interface video has been put in the page yet)
Changing the mass has nothing to do with changing their lifting strength, though?

Also, don't say that. You're going to get her disqualified.
 
Jiraiya have a durability negation or nah ? Cause I don't see how ihe can surpasses the durability of Uzi. Does anyone have an argument in favor of Jiraiya?
 
Jiraiya have a durability negation or nah ? Cause I don't see how ihe can surpasses the durability of Uzi, especially since Uzi has better abilities and hax. Does anyone have an argument in favor of Jiraiya?
He has Existence Erasure
 
Uzi have access to the absolute solver or nah ? And what is the speed of Jiraiya exactly ? Uzi is in my memory ×110 light speed.
 
Uzi have access to the absolute solver or nah ? And what is the speed of Jiraiya exactly ? Uzi is in my memory ×110 light speed.
Base Uzi is used in this tournament (though she still has it). Speed is equalized.
 
Okay, after carefully reading the capabilities of Jiraiya, i think uzi win. He can only erase a person's existence as a finishing move, so he first has to gain the advantage. Uzi is stronger and more durable, and their speed is equalized, so Uzi wins. He can't injure her, and his existence erasure is not applicable under its conditions.

I vote for Uzi.
 
The examples I've been shown always involve him needing to injure his opponent in order to wipe them out, like with the tank. Also, does he have any ranged attacks?
 
even on stuff he failed to cut earlier
Except I have a small issue with that scene. If his attack is supposed to be durability negation, why did it take two hits to kill the bull?
If some enemies like the tank are destroyed in one hit, but another enemy like the bull requires two hits, that suggests it's a matter of resistance.

And to respond to your claim, that would only mean that his special attack simply deals more damage, that's all.

But if it's actually how I think it works, then he can't bypass Uzi's durability. So either it would take a large number of hits, or it just wouldn't work at all.

Plus, he does have lightning he can drop on her should he need to
Good to know, but lightning doesn't have durability negation. Especially since Uzi can dodge lightning without much trouble.

The thing is that Uzi has more win conditions. She can one-shot him either at range or in close combat.
Meanwhile, in the best-case scenario for him, he would need to land his special attack on Uzi, assuming it actually has durability negation, which I strongly doubt.
Because, based on the arguments I presented, it seems like the opponent has to be injured first before it works.

If you want to convince me that he has durability negation, then explain this:
 
Except I have a small issue with that scene. If his attack is supposed to be durability negation, why did it take two hits to kill the bull?
If some enemies like the tank are destroyed in one hit, but another enemy like the bull requires two hits, that suggests it's a matter of resistance.
No its just how he does certain attacks, he can still do it in one hit.

Good to know, but lightning doesn't have durability negation. Especially since Uzi can dodge lightning without much trouble.
Lightning negates durability, especially since his comes from actual storms & would be instantly fatal since shes... well a robot
 
No its just how he does certain attacks, he can still do it in one hit.
From the clips we've been shown, there's no difference between his attacks, the only difference is the enemy he's facing.
Lightning negates durability, especially since his comes from actual storms & would be instantly fatal since shes... well a robot
In the series, it has never been shown how the drones react to electricity. They could very well have excellent insulation, especially considering their capabilities.
So assuming they are more sensitive just because they are drones isn’t really an argument. In that case, I’d rather base my reasoning on the attack’s AP, which isn’t sufficient.
 
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