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Chainsaw Man discussion thread

GunshyFever said:
Also, fun fact. In Chapter 174 (and onward) we learn that Public Safety and the Mifune sector were recording events that were taking place during the final arc. This means that following this reset it is heavily implied that Fujimoto purposely had these events documented so that Public Safety, specifically the government, would be aware of the reality reset. Which will likely no longer be reviewed by Fumiko this time around, but by a ghost.
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What if part 3 involves public safety trying to bring back chainsawman based on this?
 
Insert_creative_name_here_12 said:
There’s still some logic that should be considered. The story has given me nothing to suggest bugs replicate instantly. The fact of the matter that just removing death doesn’t suddenly make things mate, reproduce and grow at hyper speed.
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It expects that we have common sense to know that because insects expect 90% of their offspring to be dead and now with no offspring, there are just more insects capable of reproducing and continuing the cycle, sure the speed at which their doing it is unrealistic, but if Ur gonna complain about it being unrealistic then u might have a problem with the main character
 
Insert_creative_name_here_12 said:
There’s still some logic that should be considered. The story has given me nothing to suggest bugs replicate instantly. The fact of the matter that just removing death doesn’t suddenly make things mate, reproduce and grow at hyper speed.
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These are not just bugs but insects in general. Examples include bugs and bats (generally insect swarms). Keep in mind that there are many other species that reproduce rapidly such as aphids, fruit flies, houseflies, mosquitoes, fleas, cockroaches, termites, ants, black flies, midges, stable flies, blowflies and flesh flies, etc. The many species that reproduce frequently are just a Google search away.

You are heavily downplaying the mass reproduction of these species and how destructive they actually are.
 
Insert_creative_name_here_12 said:
There’s still some logic that should be considered. The story has given me nothing to suggest bugs replicate instantly. The fact of the matter that just removing death doesn’t suddenly make things mate, reproduce and grow at hyper speed.
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Why would some logic have to be considered? Its end of days in CSM, devils are popping up that haven't had power likely ever, two of the horsemen are gone. Without death, reality probably altered further how life functions and now we're seeing the effects of it. Or the insect devils just created a bunch of devils with their new buff.

This is honestly similar to Undead Unluck's rules, when one rule gets killed off other rules take their place to try and keep the world balanced, not saying its the same 1 to 1, but its not surprising insects multiplied wildly due to a snowball effect from dozens of devils gone from the world.
 
AbaddonTheDisappointment said:
That one panel where he has the gun to his head is always going to fry me just cause out of context it looks ridiculous and also because the gun has a higher quality than literally everything in the panel.
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It might just be photoshopped in. This shit looks ridiculous 💔
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On the bright side, he got his face card in this chapter.
 
GunshyFever said:
Also, fun fact. In Chapter 174 (and onward) we learn that Public Safety and the Mifune sector were recording events that were taking place during the final arc. This means that following this reset it is heavily implied that Fujimoto purposely had these events documented so that Public Safety, specifically the government, would be aware of the reality reset. Which will likely no longer be reviewed by Fumiko this time around, but by a ghost.
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I have also thought the gun devil vs makima fight being documented by another fumiko (another one besides the one who saw Denjis fighting gun fiend many hours later of the gun devil fighting makima)

(Also is there like NO WAY now for the 2 fake chainsawmen subplot to be solved even with a part 3? Not only for the fact that history may be rewritten In a way where they for example never met Denjis but that now they wouldn't be fake counterparts of anything, 1 fake chainsawman is the falling devil arc one that has a hidden face, with his body resembling a human while the one who fought the real fami is much more monster like)

Justkeepwading said:
What if part 3 involves public safety trying to bring back chainsawman based on this?
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I could see Makima at least remembering "Chainsaw Man" Name without even know what specifically was a chainsaw, just like she knew a few erased devil's name without knowing what their concepts meant, she may assume "Chainsaw" means "Chains and Saw" would it be that hard or take too long to make a new chainsaw from scratch by just knowing those 2 things where used to create an object?

If a "New chainsaw Man" was made, I fear he ends up becoming as much of a fraud like fake chainsaw man..., imagine they don't get to make the new chainsaw man being really feared by anyone so he's just a fodder devil
 
GunshyFever said:
Wasn't that already solved? They were Pseudo Chainsaw Men controlled by the Fake Saw we see around 197.
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How? 99% of pseudo chainsawmen can't even talk, behaving like zombies who only kill people (plus falling devil arc was before the fire devil also made all those contracts) and those controlled by fake chainsawman (those that were attached to his body) even if their bodies could be controlled by him, they weren't brainwashed and could still talk and fear their lives, his control doesn't get to a point on making a pseudo chainsaw man that behaves like a normal human, it's either zombies or people fearing their lives

They aren't lookalike in appearance at all so even saying that fujimoto reconned his appearance is a big stretch too (if there's no part 3 then I guess I'll accept that answer...), also the first take chainsaw man seemed friendly to Denji by saving him twice, when lil'd mind controlled the second fake chainsaw man he really seemed to have grudge on denji (which he logically would, he let his brother die)

(If you are implying that fake chainsawman tried to help Denji remotely by sending a pseudo chainsaw man, that's inconsistent with his hatred on denji that it's clearly pointed out to be because denji let his brother die)
 
Breadbear83 said:
How? 99% of pseudo chainsawmen can't even talk, behaving like zombies who only kill people (plus falling devil arc was before the fire devil also made all those contracts) and those controlled by fake chainsawman (those that were attached to his body) even if their bodies could be controlled by him, they weren't brainwashed and could still talk and fear their lives, his control doesn't get to a point on making a pseudo chainsaw man that behaves like a normal human, it's either zombies or people fearing their lives

They aren't lookalike in appearance at all so even saying that fujimoto reconned his appearance is a big stretch too (if there's no part 3 then I guess I'll accept that answer...), also the first take chainsaw man seemed friendly to Denji by saving him twice, when lil'd mind controlled the second fake chainsaw man he really seemed to have grudge on denji (which he logically would, he let his brother die)

(If you are implying that fake chainsawman tried to help Denji remotely by sending a pseudo chainsaw man, that's inconsistent with his hatred on denji that it's clearly pointed out to be because denji let his brother die)
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You can simply say that he used telepathy to speak through those Pseudo Saw Men. It is also already revealed that the remaining twin brother was the one assisting Denji during the Falling Devil arc. And it's not a stretch to say that FakeSaw can just activate an individual who was affiliated with the church to do his bidding.

He also still idolized Chainsaw Man even after his brothers death. We know this because he went out to attack Fami during his vigilante spree "in the name of Chainsaw Man". This suggests he was hiding his true intent, putting up a facade for his beliefs while internally hating Chainsaw Man and swearing revenge on him.
 
GunshyFever said:
You can simply say that he used telepathy to speak through those Pseudo Saw Men. It is also already revealed that the remaining twin brother was the one assisting Denji during the Falling Devil arc. And it's not a stretch to say that FakeSaw can just activate an individual who was affiliated with the church to do his bidding.

He also still idolized Chainsaw Man even after his brothers death. We know this because he went out to attack Fami during his vigilante spree "in the name of Chainsaw Man". This suggests he was hiding his true intent, putting up a facade for his beliefs while internally hating Chainsaw Man and swearing revenge on him.
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Can't see where specifically it would indicated that, whatever way he did, the older twin saved denji, only points out that the older twin still idolized denji even after letting his brother die

Looking deeper I kinda like the theory that the older twin first had a more human appearance as fake chainsaw man In falling devil arc, to then get a more monstrous appearance when time passed (where the fire devil contract of having his more desired appearance changed over time) thought as you can see from chapter 205, the young and older twin have the same face, it seeming more like Denji is remembering the face of the younger twin he let die rather than possibly seeing the older twin face before as fire devil explains the time he let die the young twin to make him remember, not mentioning about when Denji may had met the older twin in falling devil arc

But thanks to pointing out about fake chainsaw man personality
 
Justkeepwading said:
It expects that we have common sense to know that because insects expect 90% of their offspring to be dead and now with no offspring, there are just more insects capable of reproducing and continuing the cycle, sure the speed at which their doing it is unrealistic, but if Ur gonna complain about it being unrealistic then u might have a problem with the main character
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Common sense is realising that no creature mates and grows at such an insane speed. Death hasn’t even been gone for 24 hours.
GunshyFever said:
These are not just bugs but insects in general. Examples include bugs and bats (generally insect swarms). Keep in mind that there are many other species that reproduce rapidly such as aphids, fruit flies, houseflies, mosquitoes, fleas, cockroaches, termites, ants, black flies, midges, stable flies, blowflies and flesh flies, etc. The many species that reproduce frequently are just a Google search away.

You are heavily downplaying the mass reproduction of these species and how destructive they actually are.
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This literally doesn’t change the fact that they physically can’t reproduce that fast. That’s the main issue here. This shouldn’t happen this fast.


Arkenis said:
Why would some logic have to be considered? Its end of days in CSM, devils are popping up that haven't had power likely ever, two of the horsemen are gone. Without death, reality probably altered further how life functions and now we're seeing the effects of it. Or the insect devils just created a bunch of devils with their new buff.

This is honestly similar to Undead Unluck's rules, when one rule gets killed off other rules take their place to try and keep the world balanced, not saying its the same 1 to 1, but its not surprising insects multiplied wildly due to a snowball effect from dozens of devils gone from the world.
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Because insects are an irl thing that CSM has never suggested function differently from how it is irl. Why would life change because things can’t die? The insects couldn’t get their buff until the insects started overpopulating and eating people. So we’re still back to the very strange concept that somehow in the span of maybe an hour, insects overtook the world with makes no logical sense.
 
The insects were planning from the very beginning. All this time we superestimated human intelligence and had our eyes on the wrong antagonists.
 
Insert_creative_name_here_12 said:
Common sense is realising that no creature mates and grows at such an insane speed. Death hasn’t even been gone for 24 hours.
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Hear me out, we assume the flag pole happened fast so the fight was continuous. But what if it really did take like seven days to get to Earth and Denjiman/War just fought offscreen the entire time. The bugs just spawned after Denjiman and War just waited for the flag to come to Earth.
 
Qawsedf234 said:
Hear me out, we assume the flag pole happened fast so the fight was continuous. But what if it really did take like seven days to get to Earth and Denjiman/War just fought offscreen the entire time. The bugs just spawned after Denjiman and War just waited for the flag to come to Earth.
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How Denji and Yoru were feeling waiting for the spear to arrive
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Insert_creative_name_here_12 said:
Common sense is realising that no creature mates and grows at such an insane speed. Death hasn’t even been gone for 24 hours.

This literally doesn’t change the fact that they physically can’t reproduce that fast. That’s the main issue here. This shouldn’t happen this fast.



Because insects are an irl thing that CSM has never suggested function differently from how it is irl. Why would life change because things can’t die? The insects couldn’t get their buff until the insects started overpopulating and eating people. So we’re still back to the very strange concept that somehow in the span of maybe an hour, insects overtook the world with makes no logical sense.
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What makes it weirder is that a lot of this insects a) don't eat humans and b) physically cannot actually tear off chunks of human flesh to eat.

But, the biggest issue (in my opinion) with the logic is that bacteria, archaea, and viruses should completely dominate the world then. They have much, much, much shorter reproduction cycles than insects, there are so many more of them, and they're probably more feared than insects thanks to being the main causes of most diseases (Pestilence even replaces Conquest as one of the Horseman of the Apocalypse in a lot of interpretations).
 
Question, are Chainsaw Man profiles up to date? Asking because I'm thinking about making matches but wanted to make sure they aren't being revised. I see people using them but we all know that outdated profiles don't stop people from making matches.
 
LordGriffin1000 said:
Question, are Chainsaw Man profiles up to date? Asking because I'm thinking about making matches but wanted to make sure they aren't being revised. I see people using them but we all know that outdated profiles don't stop people from making matches.
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Asa/Yoru CRT is close to be made, not that many outdated characters, there's denjiman who entirely scales to Pochitas physicals so also maybe done soon

The bottom tiers (human devil hunters) will be discussed on where they should scale in speed, but with speed equalization you won't need to worry about that

What characters for matches are you thinking about?
 
if makima combines the eternity devil, mold devil, cosmos devil, snake devil, hell devil, angel devil, stone devil, doll devil, and precognition into one devil would that grant that devil the ability to like prescense diff anyone basically
 
Doubt it. That would be pretty reckless and unnecessary, especially considering Makima's position in the story and the context behind her battles.
 
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