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Madness Combat Discussion Thread: Redeemer

Also, I realized that we now have more solid arguments for Auditor in his higher dimnesional form being in immeasurable speed by chain scaling it to Arena Protagonist's feat
Arena Protagonists will be a unstoppable monster (we still need the S-3LF Eater)
 
Plus feats are pretty explicit and only happen in the very endgame, which means character both was at his peak and barely anyone will scale to this in the first place (literally only Grand Steward and mb Gambler, at least in speed)
 
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By the way, you can argue Tier 1 AP via being able to fight Grand Steward who can harm our protagonist + is a manifestation of The Machine
 
You know, i didn't think of it until now but if we can estimate the entire population of Nevada, we can do something similar to what undertale did here and multiply the population by the calcs we have right now and we'd probably get like tier 7 Final Encounter Gestalt.
Could you maybe also use Retainers for Gestalt's feat?
 
Employe is trying to put Jeb in Pure Evil wiki, well, i hope he has a good ton of luck in doing so
 
Employe is trying to put Jeb in Pure Evil wiki, well, i hope he has a good ton of luck in doing so
I mean, I’m sure the guy qualifies to some extent.

You don’t release a zombie horde on innocents (and make sure they kill as many as physically possible) for more or less no reason and end up on any hero wiki.

Hank or Phobos kinda fits better though. Jebediah at least has the fact he was killing Phobos for the “betterment” of Nevada, even if he let his personal hubris get in the way.
 
I mean, I’m sure the guy qualifies to some extent.

You don’t release a zombie horde on innocents (and make sure they kill as many as physically possible) for more or less no reason and end up on any hero wiki.

Hank or Phobos kinda fits better though. Jebediah at least has the fact he was killing Phobos for the “betterment” of Nevada, even if he let his personal hubris get in the way.
Okay but he will have to go through this process:
-be sure that he is pragmatic with all of his relationships (aka, they are not genuine relationships)
-get him out of the heroes wiki.
-all of his heroic actions have to be 100% self-serving so none of them count has heroic.
 
I mean, I’m sure the guy qualifies to some extent.

You don’t release a zombie horde on innocents (and make sure they kill as many as physically possible) for more or less no reason and end up on any hero wiki.

Hank or Phobos kinda fits better though. Jebediah at least has the fact he was killing Phobos for the “betterment” of Nevada, even if he let his personal hubris get in the way.
The whole thing about Jeb that just used "Phobos being evil" as loosely tied excuse to justify genociding innocent people, since he himself EXPLICITLY (confirmed by Krinkels himself) chose to unleash Zeds and try to deliberately have all innocents killed just to spite Phobos after he bruised Jeb's ego by firing him from his job. And generally, he only pretends to be heroic to paint himself as a savior and feed his ego as well as seize more power (mf literally proclaims Nexus City as "my city" towards Doc following this genocide)

Phobos is already on the wiki, btw. Hank maybe will be too later
 
I mean, I’m sure the guy qualifies to some extent.

You don’t release a zombie horde on innocents (and make sure they kill as many as physically possible) for more or less no reason and end up on any hero wiki.

Hank or Phobos kinda fits better though. Jebediah at least has the fact he was killing Phobos for the “betterment” of Nevada, even if he let his personal hubris get in the way.
MFs had ALASTOR of all people on Heroes Wiki for a long time, before they cutted him
 
The whole thing about Jeb that just used "Phobos being evil" as loosely tied excuse to justify genociding innocent people, since he himself EXPLICITLY (confirmed by Krinkels himself) chose to unleash Zeds and try to deliberately have all innocents killed just to spite Phobos after he bruised Jeb's ego by firing him from his job. And generally, he only pretends to be heroic to paint himself as a savior and feed his ego as well as seize more power (mf literally proclaims Nexus City as "my city" towards Doc following this genocide)

Phobos is already on the wiki, btw. Hank maybe will be too later
The only mfs that don’t deserve to be on the villain/pure evil wiki is Sanford, Deimos, The Auditor; and the Erna Mode Protagonist. Literally everyone else are some variation of evil.
 
Alastor does one vaguely heroic thing and suddenly his ass is there next to Ben 10.
Man, the murderer who ended up in hell for murdering people, considers the Great depression a fun time, and generally rips people to shreds is so heroic!
The only mfs that don’t deserve to be on the villain/pure evil wiki is Sanford, Deimos, The Auditor; and the Erna Mode Protagonist. Literally everyone else are some variation of evil.
Not Stygian?
 
The only mfs that don’t deserve to be on the villain/pure evil wiki is Sanford, Deimos, The Auditor; and the Erna Mode Protagonist. Literally everyone else are some variation of evil.
The Auditor is more like an anti-villain, kind of like MCU Thanos. He's more morally gray, there to restore order, but he still does bad or villainous things though
 
Not Stygian?
he’s not even a hero or villain. He’s just death. A “being” who moves your soul from one place to another. If I recall he wasn’t even present in project nexus when the auditor approached Christoff at the end of the game.

His morality is like. None? The guy does his job and doesn’t do much else.
 
The Auditor is more like an anti-villain, kind of like MCU Thanos. He's more morally gray, there to restore order, but he still does bad or villainous things though
It’s funny, even if you perceive him as doing evil actions those evil actions are against JEBEDIAH CHRISTOFF and HANK J. WIMBLETON, and The Auditor’s actions start to look a little more sensible, borderlining on reasonable.
 
I wouldn't him an anti-villain, more so a villain with understandable and even somewhat justifiable motives
 
It’s funny, even if you perceive him as doing evil actions those evil actions are against JEBEDIAH CHRISTOFF and HANK J. WIMBLETON, and The Auditor’s actions start to look a little more sensible, borderlining on reasonable.
Killing Jeb was unironically the most positive thing that he did (well, he didn't really kill Jeb, just injured him and later he was finished by a lighting beam)
 
Killing Jeb was unironically the most positive thing that he did (well, he didn't really kill Jeb, just injured him and later he was finished by a lighting beam)
Setting up the AAHW was the second most positive.
 
Nah, I think he is too lethal, tbh, especially with stuff like committing a bank robbery.

"One of kindest and most affable protagonists". Are they aware that he is literally known for being one of the biggest and rudest assholes among protagonists?
 
Nah, I think he is too lethal, tbh, especially with stuff like committing a bank robbery.

"One of kindest and most affable protagonists". Are they aware that he is literally known for being one of the biggest and rudest assholes among protagonists?
Honestly being lethal and rude is honestly a fairly low offset for him literally being the only thing stopping the end of the world. Buddy is probably just in a shitty mood.
 
Lowkey gonna remove the TAC-BAR weakness only working on ranged attacks cuz of Classic.
 
"One of kindest and most affable protagonists". Are they aware that he is literally known for being one of the biggest and rudest assholes among protagonists?
isn't this because of the personalities and is not his true self? (Like when he is completely naked with no imprints)
 
Bandit punched a boulder with a wall level power (casually)

Both Skeletons and Zeds can burst through ground
 
That's very cool!
You should make renders for more Project Nexus characters, like it would be cool to see a proper Gestalt Render.
I don't know if you've seen my page on Phobos I made on Fictional Indexing Wiki, but is it okay if I can use this render for when I touch up that page a bit
Yeah i saw your stuff on Fictional Indexing Wiki. Go for it.
 
Actually there might be a way to calculate the halo feat. You'd just need to calculate the size of the science tower, and assume the electricity is comparable to a real life building per square feet.
 
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