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5-B Planet Tiersetter Tournament (16/16) FINISHED

Welcome, one and all, to the (actual) next tournament I have started!​



I got commissioned to make this. As always, unlike my last tournament, I will not abandon this one, hopefully.

The Tiersetter​



Instead of giving stat ranges, arbitrarily listing hax that isn't allowed, or trying to eyeball which profiles to disqualify, matches are usually made fair by listing a character which each submission has to have a chance of losing to. If a character is initially argued as risking a loss to the tiersetter, but is later reasoned to be stronger in a way that'd have them consistently beat the tiersetter, they will be disqualified from the tournament.
This time, said character has to lose to the tiersetter by at least 51% across multiple matches run.
In this case, the mage Khadgar (Guardian of Tirisfal) will be our tiersetter for this tournament.

How does he fight?
Khadgar is by definition a mage with poor physicals. Despite this, he isn't a slouch at melee combat by mortal terms, but he's mostly better with magic. He mainly focuses on barriers and trying not to get hit by any attacks, while dishing out any magic appropriate for the fight. While he certainly favours his often used abilities, he is also subject to using any magic in his PnA should the situation call for it.

Criteria



Your selected character will be matched against Khadgar. The criteria where your selected character will be accepted, among others not concerning the tiersetter is:
  • Your character must lose to Khadgar at least 51% of the time (from running multiple matches against him) under Standard Battle Assumptions (SBA)
  • The chance of losing must be legitimate; this would include valid wincons outlined (death, incapacitation), and should not be reliant on obscure interpretations or random mechanics (e.g., coin flips, wildly variable probability effects)
  • Your character must be permitted by le Versus Thread Rules.
    • Don't just vandalise the page of your intended character just so it can fit this tournament. I will personally make sure to verify whether the changed made to said profiles are genuine or not. Any profiles and users found breaking this rule will be reported swiftly and without EXCEPTION
  • Priority will be given to characters from differing users and verses to promote variety in participants
  • Tier 5-B characters are encouraged, but characters from any other tier can be submitted, since combatants are selected based on whether they can lose to the tiersetter or not
  • Maximum one submission per user. Backups are not subject to this rule, but selection is.
  • Only 16 characters that fit the criteria are chosen. Any further submissions will be backup instead (unless requested to be placed in backup while 16 slots aren't filled yet).
  • No FC/OC characters, no joke characters, no characters you thought of in your brain that isn't in the VSBW Wiki, no exceptions. There's a reason this tourney isn't posted in FC/OC or Joke Battle threads. I WILL PURPOSEFULLY IGNORE ANY SUBMISSIONS THAT HAVE THEIR PROFILES LINKED TO ANY NON-VSBW WIKIS.


Match Information



Note: The information disclosed also applies to the initial tiersetter match against Khadgar.
Arena

  • Via SBA, Central Park.
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  • Starting Distance will be based on SBA.
Match Conditions
  • Speed is equalized by default, but may remain unequalized if one character can mitigate the speed gap (e.g., through passives, resistances, durability advantages, etc.).
  • Matches will use SBA unless specified otherwise.
  • Rules are subject to changes on a per-match basis to make them fairer or more interesting
  • Wincon is via incapacitation or death
  • Combatants are allowed to magically view the other previous matches in-universe, except for the initial tiersetter match (hence, this only becomes effective from the quarter-finals onwards)
    • Now that the preliminary matches are over, this is now effective. Khadgar's matches are still unviewable.
Match Rules
  • 3 days (now 2 days) are given to both participating users to debate. Regardless of circumstances, I will decree the outcome of the match after the 3 days (2 days) for the sake of the tourney's pacing. While they may/may not be added to the profiles, further votes can be given so that these matches are eligible to be added to the respective character's profiles
    • An exception can be made should the participating user notify everyone in this thread that they'd be inactive for a bit or some other situation. A further 1 day will be given for such exception
    • If you no longer have any reason or motivation to continue participating in this tournament, notify in the thread to have your combatant removed (and depending on the tourney time, a replacement can be issued)
  • Inconclusive matches are also subject to the above rule, but I will issue a coin flip to decide who advances (unless the votes have a 3-4 vote difference, at which it is completely subject to the first rule instead)
Special Message from Dareaperman
Keep in mind people, I will be watching every thread. I will make a post for anyone to quote if they want to go "Hey this doesn't seem like it'll be beaten by the Tiersetter"

Submissions



  1. Rexxar - @DaReaperMan (594.4 ZT)
  2. Mavuika (Divine Throne/Ruler Of Death) - @Kisaragi_Megumi (59.44 ZT)
  3. Uzi Doorman (Base) - @Psychomaster35 (701 ZT)
  4. DCEU Superman - @Arkansalter2 (62.48 ZT)
  5. Jiraiya (NOT FROM NARUTO) - @Minaaaa (59.44 ZT)
  6. Naruto (War Arc) (Starts in Kurama Six Path Sage Mode) - @AlternativePrinciple (59.44 ZT) The Roaring Knight - @Qurbonboev (Upscales 6.3 MT)
  7. sans - @Eden_Warlock99 (High 8-C: Downscales 2.42 Tons; Can ignore conventional durability with KARMA and SOUL magic)
  8. Mira Yoo - @DavidTPPM (76.36 ZT)
  9. Jellal - @Zackra1799 (1.93 YT)
  10. Kamen Rider OOO (Episode 39-48) - @shootingrock (59.44 ZT, 5-A: 3.047 YT with Grand Of Rage & Lost Blaze; Can ignore conventional durability with Dura Neg from Spatial & Void Manip)
  11. Jenny Wakeman - @MysticBrawler (59.44 ZT)
  12. Ultraman Tregear (Early Style) - @EddisherSound (59.44 ZT)
  13. 23rd Budokai Tenshinhan - @Rex_Eckles (1.5 YT)
  14. The Batter - @Nonynho (75.43 ZT)
  15. Primal Groudon - @Friedoil11 (896.53 ZT)
  16. Hope Mikaelson - @Testarossa002 (59.44 ZT)

Backup Submissions



  1. Deathwing (Aspect Of Death) - @DaReaperMan
  2. Arthas Menethil - @GAGGamerTheOverlord
  3. Primal Kyogre - @Thunderman101

Bracket​



Round 1​

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Round 2​

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Semi Finals​

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Matches​



Round 1​

  1. Tien Shinhan vs DCEU Superman (Tien Advances)
  2. Uzi Doorman vs Jiraiya (Uzi Advances)
  3. The Roaring Knight vs Rexxar (RK Advances)
  4. Kamen Rider OOO vs Ultraman Tregear (OOO Advances)
  5. Primal Groudon vs The Batter (Groudon Advances)
  6. Jellal vs Mavuika
  7. Hope Mikaelson vs sans (Hope Advances)
  8. Jenny Wakeman vs Mira Yoo (Mira Yoo Leading)

Round 2​

  1. Mira Yoo vs Hope Mikaelson (Mira Yoo advances)
  2. Kamen Rider OOO vs Tien Shinhan (Tien advances)
  3. Primal Groudon vs The Roaring Knight (Primal Groudon advances)
  4. Jellal vs Uzi Doorman (Uzi Doorman advances)

Semi Finals​

  1. Mira Yoo vs Primal Groudon (Mira advances)
  2. Uzi Doorman vs Tien Shinhan (Uzi advances)

Finals​

  1. Mira Yoo vs Uzi Doorman (Uzi won)
 
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I have no idea who the **** Khadgar is while you know about both of them. So you tell me 🤷‍♂️
You're Adam's best defender, man. You disagree with me frequently on the first man, I think that Khadgar can just kite him around, barrier his beams, and if push comes to shove, blast him to death with a dozen mirror images. Assuming Low-mid Regen What do you think?
 
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Would he work
 
Would he work
What he do?
 
Why did OP specifically ask for %51 Losses though, most tournaments just want it to be a close fight with the tiersetter win or lose
 
Why did OP specifically ask for %51 Losses though, most tournaments just want it to be a close fight with the tiersetter win or lose
Because losing to Khadgar basically restricts anything that could be called high hax or has layers, while still letting big boys in because he's a mage and has a lot of versatile shit to throw at the wall. Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
 
My guy obito barely uses any in that form, though it’s still on the table
Uhuh yeah sure. Not my first rodeo with Naruto, considering Itachi inconned a ******* Warhammer Fantasy mage, and not a weak one either, I'm just a little iffy on if bro would actually lose.
 
The masculine urge to suggest Mira again for the 50th time

Does Mori work? Adventure arc post-AD base form shouldn't be too strong. He's like 190 Zettatons in base (up to 570 with martial arts).

I see Khadgar has stuff like time hax so I guess he should beat base Mori here? Plus a long ranger barrier spammer does counter skill merchants pretty well. Idk hard for me to conclude given many abilities that seem like they could get him the win lack deeper explanation
 
The masculine urge to suggest Mira again for the 50th time

Does Mori work? Adventure arc post-AD base form shouldn't be too strong. He's like 190 Zettatons in base (up to 570 with martial arts).

I see Khadgar has stuff like time hax so I guess he should beat base Mori here? Plus a long ranger barrier spammer does counter skill merchants pretty well. Idk hard for me to conclude given many abilities that seem like they could get him the win lack deeper explanation
Doesn't he just bonk Khadgar over the head with his looooong stick?
 
I mean, he could but doesn't Kadgar just block it with barriers? They scale seem to scale even slightly above the martial arts multiplier.

Idk, you tell me
Mori is a stamina merchant as well as a skill merchant.

Also, he's got an 8x speed amp. And a Monkey King form that's a giga amp.
 
Knowing the tiniest tiny bit i know about Khadgar, i think he can win against Primebeard, though with some diff due to haki

Y'all think we can put him here? If so, then i'd like to.


Thought speed would be equal, under SBA is another figure, forget this
 
Mori is a stamina merchant as well as a skill merchant.
That's true but idk how Khadgar compares.
I'm also more so confused about how his sealing and time hax because they're 2 things Mori doesn't resist so he could just get murked by those.
Also, he's got an 8x speed amp.
Idk why but I always forget about that
And a Monkey King form that's a giga amp.
Yeah but that should be restrictable. (it's not yet listed on the profile but the MK is accepted as a 48x multiplier which actually breaches info 5A. It's accepted and all, I just missed it when applying the changes 😭).

Either way if Mori can't work then it's either Mira or nobody because Ultio is too strong and my lazy ass didn't fix any other 5B profile 💔
 
That's true but idk how Khadgar compares.
I'm also more so confused about how his sealing and time hax because they're 2 things Mori doesn't resist so he could just get murked by those.
Sealing, which is useless in combat, and Time Hax, which... read the justification and tell me.
Either way if Mori can't work then it's either Mira or nobody because Ultio is too strong and my lazy ass didn't fix any other 5B profile 💔
Don't they have godlike fearhax with layers and shit?
 
Sealing, which is useless in combat, and Time Hax, which... read the justification and tell me.
Oh, well that's unfortunate. I didn't notice the notable abilities section and this sounded pretty crazy
Time Manipulation (Via Time Warp, Alter Time, Chrono Shift, Time Anomaly, and Temporal Shield[19])
Don't they have godlike fearhax with layers and shit?
Ultio? Yeah, one of the 3 main reasons I consider him too strong.
Mira? Not in this key, only her timeskip tier 4 and tier 3 keys do.
 
Oh, well that's unfortunate. I didn't notice the notable abilities section and this sounded pretty crazy


Ultio? Yeah, one of the 3 main reasons I consider him too strong.
Mira? Not in this key, only her timeskip tier 4 and tier 3 keys do.
Mira is very debatable... @Shadowslash125, your choice whether to let her in or not.
 
I'm gonna say no? because magic is like, a one-off thing in Pokémon, and Mewtwo definitely doesn't have it.
Then mewtwo will not be in for now, since his P&A is surprisingly lacking description (?) to lay down the appropriate judgement

At a glance, it seems that while the death spell needs some set up (and Khadgar can counterspell the **** out of her), she looks really difficult to take down, especially since red oak doesn't seem to found anywhere else.
 
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