Giannysmag
Any/All- 6,319
- 10,538
Hey all, I'm back from my semi-retirement. Today I took it upon myself to upgrade Genshin Impact for once in my life.
AP Upgrade
Agree: @TWILIGHT-OP (with 5-A)
Disagree:
Neutral: @TWILIGHT-OP (with 5-B)
Speed Upgrade
The Traveler and Flins are able to intercept Aino's canon, which moves at the speed of light, which was calced at 10.88% SOL (Relativistic). I believe everyone in the Archon Tier should scale to this feat as a massively weakened Columbina could still keep up with and react to Rerir (with Columbina only reaching the power she had as the 3rd Harbinger at the end of the quest)
The higher tiers would scale 10 times above this feat from Rerir, putting them at 1,08x SOL (FTL).
Agree:
Disagree:
Neutral: @TWILIGHT-OP
AP Upgrade
Characters in this tier scale to Nicole, Varka and Arlecchino who are able to bring down the Frost Moon from space [959.82 Zettatons]. While Nicole is obviously the main source of power, Varka and Arlecchino are clearly contributing as both of them have their respective elemental auras active and the in-game Travel Log attributes the moon pulling to them, thus for the shake of simplicity we'll assume that the feat is divided evenly across the 3 of them.
Since Arlecchino is rank 4 of the Fatui Harbingers, with only the top 3 of the Archons having power that rivals that of the Archons, every Archon and those on their level would scale to 5-B [319.94 Ronnatons]
Characters who scale:
Since Arlecchino is rank 4 of the Fatui Harbingers, with only the top 3 of the Archons having power that rivals that of the Archons, every Archon and those on their level would scale to 5-B [319.94 Ronnatons]
Characters who scale:
- Zhongli: As the Archon of Geo he is superior to Arlecchino
- Raiden EI: As the Archon of Electro she is superior to Arlecchino
- Venti: As the Archon of Anemo he is superior to Arlecchino
- Mavuika: As the Archon of Pyro she is superior to Arlecchino
- Xbalanque: Former Pyro Archon and is comparable to Mavuika and the Traveler
- Il Capitano: Is the strongest Fatui Harbinger and is directly compared to Varka by a subortinate of the latter
- Il Dottore (Base): Is the second of the Fatui Harbingers
- Azhdaha (Prime): Equal, if not superior, to the Geo Archon Morax
- Dvalin: Fought against the dragon Durin alongside the Anemo Archon, eventually ripping out it's throat
- Durin: Fought Venti and Dvalin at once
- Shouki no Kami: Repeatedly stated to be on the level of a God
- Wanderer: Defeated the Shouki no Kami
- Traveler (Sumeru Key and beyond)
- All Devouring Narwhal: Skofnungr when using the Narwhal's power was on the level of a God
- Skirk: Fought Skofnungr
- Tartaglia (Fontaine Key/Foul Legacy): Fought the Narwhal for 40 days
- Neuvillette (Base): Seriously damaged the Narwhal
- Apep (Warden of the Last Oasis): Fought the Sumeru Traveler
- Ineffa: Comparable to the Traveler and can defend them from Rerir's attacks
- Flins: Fought Rerir and fared comparably to the Traveler
- Rerir (Shadow): Can fight and pressure Flins and the Traveler in his Shadow form
Characters in this tier include those who are stated to possess power that rivals an entire world, such as the 5 Sinners, the 7 Sovereigns and the 4 Shades. They are regarded by those in the previous tier as higher powers and transcendent beings.
These characters scale to Rerir's full power. Rerir while only being able to muster 10% of his full strength is still more powerful than the entire Nod Krai cast combined and should thus scale to the full scale of the previous feat [959.82 Zettatons]. This would make those in this tier 5-A [9.59 Yottatons].
Characters who scale:
These characters scale to Rerir's full power. Rerir while only being able to muster 10% of his full strength is still more powerful than the entire Nod Krai cast combined and should thus scale to the full scale of the previous feat [959.82 Zettatons]. This would make those in this tier 5-A [9.59 Yottatons].
Characters who scale:
- Rerir (Full Power)
- Rhinedottir (Sinner)
- Neuvillette (Authority restored)
- Apep (Prime)
- Xiuhcoatl
Characters in this tier stand at the peak of the verse for one reason or another and scale primeraly to Columbina moving the Frost and Iridecent Moon [20.5 Yottatons].
Those possesing the Trilunar Authority, Columbina and Dottore, have control over Teyvat's most primordial powers, predating even those of the Shades. With these powers they reach or even surpass the level of the Gods and they are capable of battling one another.
The 4 (5) Shades, Asmoday, Istraroth, Ronova, Naberius (and Rhinedottir) are also here based on the dev statement of Dottore being equal to them.
Surtalogi, the self proclaimed greatest calamity in the universe also resides in this tier. While originally he possesed power that rivals a world like the rest of the Sinners, in his current level he is on par with multiple world per Skirk's word (whom hasn't even seen Surtalogi's full strength). Thus Surtalogi is several times more powerful than those in the previous tier.
Finally Phanes and Nibelung sit here, as the very strongest of the the verse, outclassing even the Moon Goddesses.
Those possesing the Trilunar Authority, Columbina and Dottore, have control over Teyvat's most primordial powers, predating even those of the Shades. With these powers they reach or even surpass the level of the Gods and they are capable of battling one another.
The 4 (5) Shades, Asmoday, Istraroth, Ronova, Naberius (and Rhinedottir) are also here based on the dev statement of Dottore being equal to them.
Surtalogi, the self proclaimed greatest calamity in the universe also resides in this tier. While originally he possesed power that rivals a world like the rest of the Sinners, in his current level he is on par with multiple world per Skirk's word (whom hasn't even seen Surtalogi's full strength). Thus Surtalogi is several times more powerful than those in the previous tier.
Finally Phanes and Nibelung sit here, as the very strongest of the the verse, outclassing even the Moon Goddesses.
Now I think it's worth discussing if planetary Archon Tiers is an outlier (even tho we previously had them at 4-A but shhhhhh), as practically every other calc for characters of that level is somewhere within Tier 6. The reason I don't believe this Tier to be an outlier is that all of the other feats performed by these characters are extremely casual, or even completely passive in some cases.
- Boreas freezing Mondstandt: Boreas maintained a blizzard over Mondstandt completely passively and even while extremely weakened can still freeze the entire nation
- Ei splitting Yashiori Island: Collateral damage from the attack that slayed the snake-god Orobashi
- Venti terraforming Mondstandt: Performed with a single pluck of his lyre
- Azhdaha shaking the earth: These earthquakes would occur with even his slightest movements
Agree: @TWILIGHT-OP (with 5-A)
Disagree:
Neutral: @TWILIGHT-OP (with 5-B)
Speed Upgrade
The Traveler and Flins are able to intercept Aino's canon, which moves at the speed of light, which was calced at 10.88% SOL (Relativistic). I believe everyone in the Archon Tier should scale to this feat as a massively weakened Columbina could still keep up with and react to Rerir (with Columbina only reaching the power she had as the 3rd Harbinger at the end of the quest)
The higher tiers would scale 10 times above this feat from Rerir, putting them at 1,08x SOL (FTL).
Agree:
Disagree:
Neutral: @TWILIGHT-OP
Last edited:
