[Grace] Hero Killer Stain (MHA) vs Homelander (The Boys) [7-0-0]

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Homelander is 8-A again, and he’s getting a final season soon. But Stain is wondering why Hughie and Butcher haven’t slimed him already… so.

Hero Killer Stain (Stain key): 711 Tons of TNT
VS.
Homelander: 800 Tons of TNT

• Fight takes place in the same alley Stain fought Deku and Iida at 2am
• Starting distance is 20m
• Speed is equalized
• Both parties only know each other’s reputations (Stain being a hero killer and John being… yeah.)
• Otherwise SBA

Dude why is this show 5 seasons: MaskedDragon908, AyOGuyS, Enderlord8, Bruhtelho, Steve1775, Delusionaltx2, MannyQ361

A lander in homes is hard to beat:

Homie’s so weird he creeps stain out (Incon)

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

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[Delusionaltx2]

Really relies on if hommie leads with head vision here tbh

if he does he wins

if he dosen't he gets gibbed, paralyzed by bloodcurdle & prob dies

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Really relies on if hommie leads with head vision here tbh

if he does he wins

if he dosen't he gets gibbed, paralyzed by bloodcurdle & prob dies

Tbf even if Homelander does start with heat vision can’t stain just aim dodge it when he sees John’s glowing red eyes.
He did manage to fight a 3v1 against Deku, Shoto and Iida so I don’t see him just standing there and taking the hit.
But fair. Stains instantly cooked if it lands.
They basically each can one tap each other

 

[EnderLord8]

My vote is in Homelander be slashed in one hundred of pieces

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

My vote is in Homelander be slashed in one hundred of pieces

Wait should I count that as a serious vote or just a joke

 

[AThe1412]

Homelander is 8-A again, and he’s getting a final season soon. But Stain is wondering why Hughie and Butcher haven’t slimed him already… so.

Because it's difficult when he's the strongest mf in the verse both in power and influence.

 

[Bruhtelho]

I think something I gotta ask is, Can stain even cut Homelander? per his profile he's an invulnerable supe which puts him in the same ballpark as Translucent (in his feats) so things such as saws would not only fail to cut his skin, but they'll even break on contact unless its a special kind of blade and bullets are completely useless against him.

Homelander is superior to 800 Tons of TNT since hes practically unfazed by attacks from characters weaker like Maeve for example, who he was holding back against and the moment he got serious, severely injured her. it took Maeve catching him off-guard and targeting a weak point to even draw a bit of blood.

Stain relies purely on CQC most of the time and sure he could aim-dodge lasers but given they come out incredibly fast, are 3,500 °C in heat, can be spammed, and are coming from someone flying in a pretty open space (parking lot). Stain is gonna have one hell of a time ever properly getting close to Homelander.

if he can cut homelander then he technically has a win-con but its not a super likely one imo since Homelander has a superior ranged option, can simply fly out of his range, and if CQC does come into play, might outright be immune to getting cut.

Stain's profile is missing the fact that he should have flight via his glider and probably enhanced senses since he can smell the difference between All Might and All For One's Blood despite him cutting his own nose off but neither of these really change much since Homelander can just yknow destroy it since his mobility within the air is far greater.

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Because it's difficult when he's the strongest mf in the verse both in power and influence.

It’s just a joke a lot of people in Hughie and Butcher’s shoes would be having an even harder time taking out homelander

I think something I gotta ask is, Can stain even cut Homelander? per his profile he's an invulnerable supe which puts him in the same ballpark as Translucent (in his feats) so things such as saws would not only fail to cut his skin, but they'll even break on contact unless its a special kind of blade and bullets are completely useless against him.

Probably cause The Boys doesn’t have an 8-A+ sword / knife user (I stopped around S3 and waiting for the final season to finish before watching again so might be wrong) to verify fully whether even swords on his level don’t work. All Stain needs is a minor cut, he doesn’t need to inflict anything major for the paralysis. Although if Homelander would be immune to Stain blades then it’s a stomp.

Homelander is superior to 800 Tons of TNT since hes practically unfazed by attacks from characters weaker like Maeve for example, who he was holding back against and the moment he got serious, severely injured her. it took Maeve catching him off-guard and targeting a weak point to even draw a bit of blood.

Asking for clarification, but doesn’t Homelander’s 800 tons come from having the power of a neutron bomb. Not exceeding a neutron bomb. While Maeve’s 8-A+ feat outside of downscaling from Homelander is Soldier boy’s 646 Ton explosion? Making Homelander just that rating instead of notably upscaling?

Stain relies purely on CQC most of the time and sure he could aim-dodge lasers but given they come out incredibly fast, are 3,500 °C in heat, can be spammed, and are coming from someone flying in a pretty open space (parking lot). Stain is gonna have one hell of a time ever properly getting close to Homelander.

if he can cut homelander then he technically has a win-con but its not a super likely one imo since Homelander has a superior ranged option, can simply fly out of his range, and if CQC does come into play, might outright be immune to getting cut.

Stain's profile is missing the fact that he should have flight via his glider and probably enhanced senses since he can smell the difference between All Might and All For One's Blood despite him cutting his own nose off but neither of these really change much since Homelander can just yknow destroy it since his mobility within the air is far greater

That’s all fair to say though, do you think the open environment is too much of a disadvantage to Stain or is it fine? If it is maybe they could fight in the alley Stain fought Deku, Iida and Shoto in.

Or can I just count this as a Homelander vote

 

[Bruhtelho]

That’s all fair to say though, do you think the open environment is too much of a disadvantage to Stain or is it fine? If it is maybe they could fight in the alley Stain fought Deku, Iida and Shoto in.

Or can I just count this as a Homelander vote

if its changed to the alley than stain has his Acrobatics for jumping between buildings in order to close the distance or to avoid getting sliced in half by lasers. of course that also creates a smaller area for homelanders heat vision so eh it goes both ways. the smaller arena means stain can use his Acrobatics well it also means there is less actual "area" to move around.

Probably cause The Boys doesn’t have an 8-A+ sword / knife user (I stopped around S3 and waiting for the final season to finish before watching again so might be wrong to verify fully whether even swords on his level don’t work. All Stain needs is a minor cut, he doesn’t need to inflict anything major for the paralysis. Although if Homelander would be immune to Stain blades then it’s a stomp.

I mean Stain is 1.1x weaker than Homelander here and nearly most weapons that can be counted as "piercing" are useless against invulnerable supes. i'll wait for someone more knowledgeable on the matter to answer. in the mean time lets assume he can be cut.

Asking for clarification, but doesn’t Homelander’s 800 tons come from having the power of a neutron bomb. Not exceeding a neutron bomb. While Maeve’s 8-A+ feat outside of downscaling from Homelander is Soldier boy’s 646 Ton explosion? Making Homelander just that rating instead of notably upscaling?

Homelander is the strongest character in verse, the power of neutron bomb statement is like the baseline imo. he's stronger than Soldier Boy, Temp-V Butcher, and Maeve all of which also scale to the value, Maeve being the biggest example since not only was he holding back against her but the moment he stopped, he severely injured her.

any attack below 800 Tons practically unfazes Homelander like the Soldier Boy explosion. of course this could be me just nitpicking and he really does just sit at 800 Tons rather than being superior to it. my knowledge on The Boys isn't that great.

 

[AThe1412]

Asking for clarification, but doesn’t Homelander’s 800 tons come from having the power of a neutron bomb. Not exceeding a neutron bomb. While Maeve’s 8-A+ feat outside of downscaling from Homelander is Soldier boy’s 646 Ton explosion? Making Homelander just that rating instead of notably upscaling?

Maeve took zero damage from Soldier Boy's explosion. All of her injuries came from fighting Homie.

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

if its changed to the alley than stain has his Acrobatics for jumping between buildings in order to close the distance or to avoid getting sliced in half by lasers. of course that also creates a smaller area for homelanders heat vision so eh it goes both ways. the smaller arena means stain can use his Acrobatics well it also means there is less actual "area" to move around.

Makes sense, changed the battlefield to the alley. With a shorter starting distance, so Homelander would have to more intentionally back up now if he decides he doesn’t wanna CQC stain.

I mean Stain is 1.1x weaker than Homelander here and nearly most weapons that can be counted as "piercing" are useless against invulnerable supes. i'll wait for someone more knowledgeable on the matter to answer. in the mean time lets assume he can be cut.

Homelander is the strongest character in verse, the power of neutron bomb statement is like the baseline imo. he's stronger than Soldier Boy, Temp-V Butcher, and Maeve all of which also scale to the value, Maeve being the biggest example since not only was he holding back against her but the moment he stopped, he severely injured her.

any attack below 800 Tons practically unfazes Homelander like the Soldier Boy explosion. of course this could be me just nitpicking and he really does just sit at 800 Tons rather than being superior to

Yeah I’m fine with letting more knowledgeable The Boys supporters elaborate here. Cause I took the neutron bomb statement more to represent the peak of a Supes destructive power (Homelander) while Maeve, Butcher and Soldier Boy downscale from him to varying extents.

Under the current assumption Stain can cut Homelander. it’s a match of who tags who first basically. Stain would be better at aim dodging and jumping around while Homelander’s main method would be simply flying back and using heat vision as a deterrent while shrugging off any blunt strikes Stain might pull off. Which seems like a toss up to me.

 

[Bruhtelho]

Both Stain and Homelander have experience fighting their opposite as well, such as Stain being able to keep up with Todoroki's more ranged fighting style and even calling him a "careless" fighter, well Homie constantly fights people in CQC which is what Stain is basically an expert in.

so it really comes down to who can land that one hit they need.

I think with the new location, Stain should be able to pull it off, not only is he far more acrobatic in this area and will constantly be jumping between the buildings to avoid Homelander the moment he sees his eye's light up but he can also fly with his glider further improving his mobility in a pinch. a big problem for Homelander is his narcissistic, impulsive, and short-tempered personality, he has a tendency to never take people seriously until its too late since well he's the mother f*cking Homelander, hes never been contested by anyone for the most part and we've seen him be caught off guard by people and hit due to his incompetence like again Maeve hitting him and causing him to bleed.

Homelander might be a lil onguard here since he knows Stain's reputation but that might also be his down fall, he would think of Stain as a joke compared to him well we've seen Stain take most of his fights incredibly seriously, he always goes for the kill right off the bat with bloodcurdle and his Supernatural Willpower can clutch up in a pinch since if Homelander doesn't hit anything vital.

Stain should also be more skilled than Homelander by a good margin, Homelander again is usually uncontested in his verse so his kills are far less impressive well Stain had no problem likely fighting and killing over 40 Heroes, fighting against Knuckleduster whos H2H combat skills were so high that Aizawa thought he had a quirk despite being quirkless, fought 3 heroes in training at once and was still standing by the end of their battle despite his lung being pierced, and took even All For One by surprise for a moment despite the latter being a genius.

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

he always goes for the kill right off the bat with bloodcurdle and his Supernatural Willpower can clutch up in a pinch since if Homelander doesn't hit anything vital.

I’ll also add the minor note that if Stain’s supernatural willpower kicks in he’ll probably scare Homelander which could make John more inclined to make mistakes / leave him wide open. Given even people tiers above Stain like Endeavor were spooked by his resolve.

Or John panics and actually gets as serious as he can if he feels like not jobbing but that’s less likely given his personality

Otherwise I’d say everything you’ve stated is pretty valid

 

[MaskedDragon908]

Stain:

Skill advantage​

Experience against several kinds of super powers​

Bladed weaponry​

Willpower​

Quirk​

Acrobatics​

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Homelander:

Decent LS advantage​

AP advantage​

Flight​

Heat Vision​

Rage Power​

Some of Homelander's most notable traits are his ego and temper, and he is unlikely to recognize Stain's weaponry as being capable of harming him. Stain's weaponry, being superior to his physicals, should be capable of harming Homelander, and if push comes to shove, Stain can also attempt to harm Homelander in unarmed combat. Both of them scale directly to their value, although Stain may scale above due to taking Izuku's attacks with little injury.

Stain is likely to anger Homelander during this fight, whether by airing his grievances with his victim or sufficiently injuring him. Homelander is more likely to make mistakes when angry, but he also gets stronger.

Bruhtelho and Jackof_noTrades have covered everything else, so Masked will go ahead and vote for Stain. This is honestly just the average day for Chizome, who has been killing people with superpowers since he was Stendhal and has only gotten better at it. Homelander is unlikely to abuse his flight, and the change in location just makes things easier for Stain.

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Stain:

Skill advantage​

Experience against several kinds of super powers​

Bladed weaponry​

Willpower​

Quirk​

Acrobatics​

​

Homelander:

Decent LS advantage​

AP advantage​

Flight​

Heat Vision​

Rage Power​

Some of Homelander's most notable traits are his ego and temper, and he is unlikely to recognize Stain's weaponry as being capable of harming him. Stain's weaponry, being superior to his physicals, should be capable of harming Homelander, and if push comes to shove, Stain can also attempt to harm Homelander in unarmed combat. Both of them scale directly to their value, although Stain may scale above due to taking Izuku's attacks with little injury.

Stain is likely to anger Homelander during this fight, whether by airing his grievances with his victim or sufficiently injuring him. Homelander is more likely to make mistakes when angry, but he also gets stronger.

Bruhtelho and Jackof_noTrades have covered everything else, so Masked will go ahead and vote for Stain. This is honestly just the average day for Chizome, who has been killing people with superpowers since he was Stendhal and has only gotten better at it. Homelander is unlikely to abuse his flight, and the change in location just makes things easier for Stain.

Counted

 

[AyOgUyS]

Stain FRA, Ho*elander is NEVER winning a fight on my watch

 

[EnderLord8]

Wait should I count that as a serious vote or just a joke

My vote is serious; besides, as far as I know, Homelander doesn't have any feats of resisting tier 8-A slashing attacks.

 

[Bruhtelho]

if it wasn't clear my vote was going towards Stain landing the blow first through skill, acrobatics, and Homelanders personality working against him

 

[Steve1775]

Homelander would have won a lot more of his fights if he didn't have that annoying ass attitude he always has

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Homelander would have won a lot more of his fights if he didn't have that annoying ass attitude he always has

if an average person plugged a controller in to Homelander and controlled him like a fighting game character he’d fight 10x more competently

Also is that a Stain vote?

 

[Steve1775]

if an average person plugged a controller in to Homelander and controlled him like a fighting game character he’d fight 10x more competently

Also is that a Stain vote?

Yeah

 

[Delusionaltx2]

I was gonna say tanking piercing far weaker than you isn't really the same as tanking piercing from characters actually comparable to you but it seems jack was ahead of me on that

Outside of that, I agree with basically everything else above, stain is far more skilled than homelander so it's much more likely for him to get the first hit in before john lands his heat vision.

Smudge FRA

 

[MannyQ361]

Voting Stain fra.

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Aight Grace started

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Ok I can add this to profiles

 

[AThe1412]

if an average person plugged a controller in to Homelander and controlled him like a fighting game character he’d fight 10x more competently

Literally MK1 Homelander.