LMK additions #3

[Arency]

1. Adding Fate physiology

Basically just adding this physiology for fate users.
The majority are already accepted with the exceptions of Passive AD, Air Manip, Regen (Healing), Resist Neg, Elemental Manip, and madness manip resistance.
Also adding additional aspects such as mind for chaos as being capable of effecting the Pagoda Realm since it can destroy everything in the universe as accepted here, same with Golden Staff’s sealing/energy manip as it has the power of Fate as it granted Sun Wukong’s powers to MK and helps Sun Wukong from possession by giving its power (should also be given power bestowal).

2. Give Blessed to Lady Bone Demon and MK

Lady Bone Demon should be given Blessed protection as she is chosen by Fate to erase the entire universe and chaos with the Samadhi Fire to create an entirely new world since the beginning of time itself here, here and here.
MK should also be given the same as he is chosen by Nüwa, the Goddess of Destiny to continue the Great Cycles, so both characters would be protected by Fate from permanent incap/death/erasure until they reach to their fated outcome.​

 

[Dark_Shadow-34513]

Why would you add the Resi Neg ability based on disabling Sun Wukong's invulnerability when the invulnerability was already removed from the previous CRT?

 

[Arency]

Why would you add the Resi Neg ability based on disabling Sun Wukong's invulnerability when the invulnerability was already removed from the previous CRT?

Resist neg is just negating the resistances, which is different than invulnerability negation. In the invul crt, the staffs agree on changing Sun Wukong's invulnerability to soul manip to 1 extra layer of soul manip resist. In this CRT, I just add Resist neg as it can negate SW's layered resistances

 

[Random-Helper323]

It works better if you list the abilities being proposed in the OP.

 

[CasperSenar]

It works better if you list the abilities being proposed in the OP.

I think the OP listed them already for fate physiology. You agree?

Passive AD, Air Manip, Regen, Resist Neg, Elemental Manip, and madness manip resistance.​

 

[Arency]

It works better if you list the abilities being proposed in the OP.

I mean, I did?

The majority are already accepted with the exceptions of Passive AD, Air Manip, Regen, Resist Neg, Elemental Manip, and madness manip resistance.​

Unless you mean something else I don't know or smth

 

[Random-Helper323]

I mean, I did?

Unless you mean something else I don't know or smth

The justifications as well is usually best listed in the OP.

 

[CasperSenar]

The justifications as well is usually best listed in the OP.

Uh let me help, here's the list from the blog:

• Passive Accelerated Development, Reactive Evolution and Adaptation (Constantly grow in power after their user dies, even to the point of destroying the pagoda realm, a realm stated to be infinite in size, also would continue until the entire macrocosm is destroyed if it weren't for MK pacifying it. The power also constantly adapting to the Primordial Chaos's destructive abilities as Nüwa created the stones just to counter Chaos's constant adaption as Chaos managed to break the Pillar of Heaven despite previously unable to)
  • Resistance to Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1), Power Nullification and Statistics Reduction (Fate users like base MK and Azure struggled to nullify the power from growing too much after a user dies and requires characters strong enough to pacify it like Monkey MK or Nüwa)
• Air Manipulation, Light Manipulation and Electricity Manipulation (When losing control or being amped by the power, those effects appear here, here and here)
• Regeneration (Can use the power to regenerate themselves and their aspects from erasure such as Azure Lion from MK's attacks and Lady Bone Demon from the Golden Staff)
  
  
• Resistance Negation (Fate users like Macaque and MK was able to negate Sun Wukong's layered resistance to soul/energy manipulation as stated by Macaque that he could kill Sun Wukong upon stealing MK's powers despite Wukong was stated to be invulnerable to Azure's soul/energy attacks. Sun Wukong himself has shown capable of removing MK's invulnerability . Azure upon gaining Jade's power, could harm Sun Wukong as Azure stated he could test the limits of Sun Wukong's immortalities and MK had to block Azure's sword to protect Sun Wukong)
  
  
• Madness Manipulation (Type 3), Corruption (Type 2) and Morality Manipulation (1 Layer - By looking at the Primordial Chaos, can cause madness in people such as Xiang Liu as after perceiving it, he goes out his way to destroy the universe and also killing himself in the process. Even Nüwa warned to her people that Chaos is evil and shouldn't be look upon and calls Xiang Liu a monster. Chaos is also the root of conflicts in the universe. Fate users should be unaffected as Nüwa originally came from it and MK who has the power of Fate, was able to perceive the Primordial Chaos without going mad)

 

[Dark_Shadow-34513]

Uh let me help, here's the list from the blog:

• Passive Accelerated Development, Reactive Evolution and Adaptation (Constantly grow in power after their user dies<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Arency/Fate_Physiology_(Lego_Monkie_Kid)#cite_note-The_Emperor's_Wrath_-_Season_4_Special-4"><span>[</span>4<span>]</span></a>, even to the point of destroying the pagoda realm, a realm stated to be infinite in size<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...e_note-Into_the_Pagoda_-_Episode_7_Season_5-9"><span>[</span>9<span>]</span></a>, also would continue until the entire macrocosm is destroyed if it weren't for MK pacifying it<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...Kid)#cite_note-The_Cage-_Episode_8_Season_5-5"><span>[</span>5<span>]</span></a>. The power also constantly adapting to the Primordial Chaos's destructive abilities as Nüwa created the stones just to counter Chaos's constant adaption as Chaos managed to break the Pillar of Heaven despite previously unable to<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...e_note-Collar_the_King_-_Episode_2_Season_5-8"><span>[</span>8<span>]</span></a>)
  • Resistance to Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1), Power Nullification and Statistics Reduction (Fate users like base MK<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...Kid)#cite_note-The_Cage-_Episode_8_Season_5-5"><span>[</span>5<span>]</span></a> and Azure<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Arency/Fate_Physiology_(Lego_Monkie_Kid)#cite_note-The_Emperor's_Wrath_-_Season_4_Special-4"><span>[</span>4<span>]</span></a> struggled to nullify the power from growing too much after a user dies and requires characters strong enough to pacify it like Monkey MK<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...Kid)#cite_note-The_Cage-_Episode_8_Season_5-5"><span>[</span>5<span>]</span></a> or Nüwa<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...d)#cite_note-Sacrifice_-_Episode_9_Season_5-2"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a>)
• Air Manipulation, Light Manipulation and Electricity Manipulation (When losing control or being amped by the power, those effects appear here<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...note-The_Jade_Emperor_-_Episode_10_Season_4-3"><span>[</span>3<span>]</span></a>, here<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Arency/Fate_Physiology_(Lego_Monkie_Kid)#cite_note-The_Emperor's_Wrath_-_Season_4_Special-4"><span>[</span>4<span>]</span></a> and here<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...Kid)#cite_note-The_Cage-_Episode_8_Season_5-5"><span>[</span>5<span>]</span></a>)
• Regeneration (Can use the power to regenerate themselves and their aspects from erasure such as Azure Lion from MK's attacks<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Arency/Fate_Physiology_(Lego_Monkie_Kid)#cite_note-The_Emperor's_Wrath_-_Season_4_Special-4"><span>[</span>4<span>]</span></a> and Lady Bone Demon from the Golden Staff<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...ote-Embrace_Your_Destiny_-_Season_3_Special-6"><span>[</span>6<span>]</span></a>)
  
  
• Resistance Negation (Fate users like Macaque and MK was able to negate Sun Wukong's layered resistance to soul/energy manipulation as stated by Macaque that he could kill Sun Wukong upon stealing MK's powers<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...id)#cite_note-Macaque_-_Episode_9_Season_1-14"><span>[</span>14<span>]</span></a> despite Wukong was stated to be invulnerable<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Arency/Fate_Physiology_(Lego_Monkie_Kid)#cite_note-The_Emperor's_Wrath_-_Season_4_Special-4"><span>[</span>4<span>]</span></a> to Azure's soul/energy attacks<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U..._note-The_Brotherhood_-_Episode_8_Season_4-25"><span>[</span>25<span>]</span></a>. Sun Wukong himself has shown capable of removing MK's invulnerability<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...cite_note-Bad_Weather_-_Episode_1_Season_1-24"><span>[</span>24<span>]</span></a> . Azure upon gaining Jade's power, could harm Sun Wukong as Azure stated he could test the limits of Sun Wukong's immortalities and MK had to block Azure's sword to protect Sun Wukong<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Arency/Fate_Physiology_(Lego_Monkie_Kid)#cite_note-The_Emperor's_Wrath_-_Season_4_Special-4"><span>[</span>4<span>]</span></a>)
  
  
• Madness Manipulation (Type 3), Corruption (Type 2) and Morality Manipulation (1 Layer - By looking at the Primordial Chaos, can cause madness in people such as Xiang Liu as after perceiving it<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...Kid)#cite_note-The_Cage-_Episode_8_Season_5-5"><span>[</span>5<span>]</span></a>, he goes out his way to destroy the universe and also killing himself in the process<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...#cite_note-Harbinger_-_Episode_10_Season_5-17"><span>[</span>17<span>]</span></a>. Even Nüwa warned to her people that Chaos is evil and shouldn't be look upon and calls Xiang Liu a monster<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...Kid)#cite_note-The_Cage-_Episode_8_Season_5-5"><span>[</span>5<span>]</span></a>. Chaos is also the root of conflicts in the universe. Fate users should be unaffected as Nüwa originally came from it<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...Kid)#cite_note-The_Cage-_Episode_8_Season_5-5"><span>[</span>5<span>]</span></a> and MK who has the power of Fate, was able to perceive the Primordial Chaos without going mad<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...#cite_note-Harbinger_-_Episode_10_Season_5-17"><span>[</span>17<span>]</span></a>)

I think you should delete these <span>[</span>4<span>]</span></a>)

 

[Dark_Shadow-34513]

Add this too.
Plot Manipulation, Information Manipulation (Type 2), Data Manipulation, Reality Warping, Space-Time Manipulation, Soul Manipulation and Mind Manipulation (Can effect The Scroll of Memory as shown by MK and Sun Wukong,the same scroll that embody the entirety of Journey to the West and other stories here, here, here and here. Can effect information and data such as the Cloud. Can affect souls as the power can govern it like Lady Bone Demon as can regenerate herself despite being a spirit and also effect souls within underworld and celestial realm. Can affect minds as the power can govern it like Sun Wukong's transcendental meditation tied to his power<a and also effect the minds within Pagoda Realm

 

[CasperSenar]

Add this too.
Plot Manipulation, Information Manipulation (Type 2), Data Manipulation, Reality Warping, Space-Time Manipulation, Soul Manipulation and Mind Manipulation (Can effect The Scroll of Memory as shown by MK and Sun Wukong,the same scroll that embody the entirety of Journey to the West and other stories here, here, here and here. Can effect information and data such as the Cloud. Can affect souls as the power can govern it like Lady Bone Demon as can regenerate herself despite being a spirit and also effect souls within underworld and celestial realm. Can affect minds as the power can govern it like Sun Wukong's transcendental meditation tied to his power<a and also effect the minds within Pagoda Realm

I'm guessing that's already been accepted before so no need to tackle it

 

[Random-Helper323]

Passive Accelerated Development, Reactive Evolution and Adaptation (Constantly grow in power after their user dies, even to the point of destroying the pagoda realm, a realm stated to be infinite in size, also would continue until the entire macrocosm is destroyed if it weren't for MK pacifying it. The power also constantly adapting to the Primordial Chaos's destructive abilities as Nüwa created the stones just to counter Chaos's constant adaption as Chaos managed to break the Pillar of Heaven despite previously unable to)

This is accelerated development and maybe adaptation, not reactive evolution.

• Resistance to Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1), Power Nullification and Statistics Reduction (Fate users like base MK and Azure struggled to nullify the power from growing too much after a user dies and requires characters strong enough to pacify it like Monkey MK or Nüwa)

I don't know what this is trying to say.

• Air Manipulation, Light Manipulation and Electricity Manipulation (When losing control or being amped by the power, those effects appear here, here and here)

Seems okay.

• Regeneration (Can use the power to regenerate themselves and their aspects from erasure such as Azure Lion from MK's attacks and Lady Bone Demon from the Golden Staff)

I don't see regeneration. Maybe minor healing.

Resistance Negation (Fate users like Macaque and MK was able to negate Sun Wukong's layered resistance to soul/energy manipulation as stated by Macaque that he could kill Sun Wukong upon stealing MK's powers despite Wukong was stated to be invulnerable to Azure's soul/energy attacks. Sun Wukong himself has shown capable of removing MK's invulnerability . Azure upon gaining Jade's power, could harm Sun Wukong as Azure stated he could test the limits of Sun Wukong's immortalities and MK had to block Azure's sword to protect Sun Wukong)

Sounds like power null.

Madness Manipulation (Type 3), Corruption (Type 2) and Morality Manipulation (1 Layer - By looking at the Primordial Chaos, can cause madness in people such as Xiang Liu as after perceiving it, he goes out his way to destroy the universe and also killing himself in the process. Even Nüwa warned to her people that Chaos is evil and shouldn't be look upon and calls Xiang Liu a monster. Chaos is also the root of conflicts in the universe. Fate users should be unaffected as Nüwa originally came from it and MK who has the power of Fate, was able to perceive the Primordial Chaos without going mad)

This should be fine. The morality part might be questionable though. It seems like madness manipulation mostly.

 

[CasperSenar]

This is accelerated development and maybe adaptation, not reactive evolution.

I don't know what this is trying to say.

Seems okay.

I don't see regeneration. Maybe minor healing.

Sounds like power null.

This should be fine. The morality part might be questionable though. It seems like madness manipulation mostly.

Ok

Basically when the power goes out of control, there are characters who can perform powernull on concepts like base MK and wukong but is unable to supress the out of control power, it took someone like MK in his monkey form to nulify it

Healing is fine ig

Well I believe resist neg should be included since they can nulify each other invulnerabilities which provides their general resistances

So you are fine with the thread? RE will just be adaptation and regen changed to healing

Edit: Forgot to list fusionism

• Fusionism (Is able to fuse with their own power as shown by the stone guardians here and here. While others like Azure merged with the universe)

 

[Random-Helper323]

What still needs to be done here?

 

[CasperSenar]

What still needs to be done here?

Basically when the power goes out of control, there are characters who can perform powernull on concepts like base MK and wukong but is unable to supress the out of control power, it took someone like MK in his monkey form to nulify it (resist to powernull)

Well I believe resist neg should be included since they can nulify each other invulnerabilities which provides their general resistances (resist neg)

Edit: Forgot to list fusionism

• Fusionism (Is able to fuse with their own power as shown by the stone guardians here and here. While others like Azure merged with the universe)

Also blessed and aspect for golden staff/chaos

Also adding additional aspects such as mind for chaos as being capable of effecting the Pagoda Realm since it can destroy everything in the universe as accepted here, same with Golden Staff’s sealing/energy manip as it has the power of Fate as it granted Sun Wukong’s powers to MK and helps Sun Wukong from possession by giving its power (should also be given power bestowal).

2. Give Blessed to Lady Bone Demon and MK

Lady Bone Demon should be given Blessed protection as she is chosen by Fate to erase the entire universe and chaos with the Samadhi Fire to create an entirely new world since the beginning of time itself here, here and here.
MK should also be given the same as he is chosen by Nüwa, the Goddess of Destiny to continue the Great Cycles, so both characters would be protected by Fate from permanent incap/death/erasure until they reach to their fated outcome.​

 

[CasperSenar]

Also blessed and aspect for golden staff/chaos

What still needs to be done here?

Bump?

 

[CasperSenar]

What still needs to be done here?

Also blessed and aspect for golden staff/chaos

bump

 

[Random-Helper323]

Does that part about being chosen actually give any advantages? And what's the aspect part based on?

 

[CasperSenar]

Does that part about being chosen actually give any advantages? And what's the aspect part based on?

Basically protected by Nuwa's fate manipulation (she's the goddess of destiny in the verse)

Uh the pagoda which is already accepted before. Just wanna add it as it was a missed ability

 

[CasperSenar]

Does that part about being chosen actually give any advantages? And what's the aspect part based on?

Basically protected by Nuwa's fate manipulation (she's the goddess of destiny in the verse)

Uh the pagoda which is already accepted before. Just wanna add it as it was a missed ability

bump

 

[CasperSenar]

Does that part about being chosen actually give any advantages? And what's the aspect part based on?

Basically protected by Nuwa's fate manipulation (she's the goddess of destiny in the verse)

Uh the pagoda which is already accepted before. Just wanna add it as it was a missed ability

bump

 

[CasperSenar]

Does that part about being chosen actually give any advantages? And what's the aspect part based on?

Basically protected by Nuwa's fate manipulation (she's the goddess of destiny in the verse)

Uh the pagoda which is already accepted before. Just wanna add it as it was a missed ability

bump

 

[CasperSenar]

Does that part about being chosen actually give any advantages? And what's the aspect part based on?

Basically protected by Nuwa's fate manipulation (she's the goddess of destiny in the verse)

Uh the pagoda which is already accepted before. Just wanna add it as it was a missed ability

bump

 

[Random-Helper323]

Blessed is fine. I assume by aspect you mean the resistance to concept hax. That part I'm not sure about.

 

[CasperSenar]

Blessed is fine. I assume by aspect you mean the resistance to concept hax. That part I'm not sure about.

Uh not concept hax, just mind manip

 

[CasperSenar]

Blessed is fine. I assume by aspect you mean the resistance to concept hax. That part I'm not sure about.

Uh not concept hax, just mind manip

Bump

 

[CasperSenar]

Blessed is fine. I assume by aspect you mean the resistance to concept hax. That part I'm not sure about.

Also adding additional aspects such as mind for chaos as being capable of effecting the Pagoda Realm since it can destroy everything in the universe as accepted here​

The Pagoda realm accepted having abstract minds here

 

[CasperSenar]

Blessed is fine. I assume by aspect you mean the resistance to concept hax. That part I'm not sure about.

The Pagoda realm accepted having abstract minds here

Bump

 

[Random-Helper323]

It talks about minds being flooded with information from past lives which grants the scroll mind hax.

So the idea is that the character resists that effect?

 

[CasperSenar]

It talks about minds being flooded with information from past lives which grants the scroll mind hax.

So the idea is that the character resists that effect?

Uh yeah?

 

[Random-Helper323]

Uh yeah?

Do you have to answer in that borderline condescending way? I'm trying to evaluate a verse I don't know.

 

[CasperSenar]

Do you have to answer that way? I'm trying to evaluate a verse I don't know.

Uh sorry but it's more focused on the Pagoda which has abstract minds basically. The idea is that chaos can deconstruct and absorb abstract minds

Idk how to make it more clear than what the OP said

 

[Random-Helper323]

Uh sorry but it's more focused on the Pagoda which has abstract minds basically. The idea is that chaos can deconstruct and absorb abstract minds

Idk how to make it more clear than what the OP said

The Scroll has an abstract mind, and mind hax. an apparently affect that. Is that what you're saying?

I'm sorry, the video linked for the transcendent meditation just shows someone unconscious and the video linked for the pagoda just shows what looks like normal mind hax on the guy.

 

[CasperSenar]

The Scroll has an abstract mind, and mind hax. an apparently affect that?

The video linked for the transcendent meditation just shows someone unconscious and the video linked for the pagoda just shows what looks like normal mind hax on the guy.

Basically yeah

The meditation stuff is already accepted and not relevant in this CRT since we just focus on the scroll basically has AE1 mind for embodying everything including the part where The Pagoda was extracting minds to consume it (already accepted dw). Hope this explaination is pretty simple

 

[CasperSenar]

The Scroll has an abstract mind, and mind hax. an apparently affect that. Is that what you're saying?

I'm sorry, the video linked for the transcendent meditation just shows someone unconscious and the video linked for the pagoda just shows what looks like normal mind hax on the guy.

Basically yeah

The meditation stuff is already accepted and not relevant in this CRT since we just focus on the scroll basically has AE1 mind for embodying everything including the part where The Pagoda was extracting minds to consume it (already accepted dw). Hope this explaination is pretty simple

bump

 

[CasperSenar]

The Scroll has an abstract mind, and mind hax. an apparently affect that. Is that what you're saying?

I'm sorry, the video linked for the transcendent meditation just shows someone unconscious and the video linked for the pagoda just shows what looks like normal mind hax on the guy.

Basically yeah

The meditation stuff is already accepted and not relevant in this CRT since we just focus on the scroll basically has AE1 mind for embodying everything including the part where The Pagoda was extracting minds to consume it (already accepted dw). Hope this explaination is pretty simple

bump

 

[CasperSenar]

The Scroll has an abstract mind, and mind hax. an apparently affect that. Is that what you're saying?

I'm sorry, the video linked for the transcendent meditation just shows someone unconscious and the video linked for the pagoda just shows what looks like normal mind hax on the guy.

Basically yeah

The meditation stuff is already accepted and not relevant in this CRT since we just focus on the scroll basically has AE1 mind for embodying everything including the part where The Pagoda was extracting minds to consume it (already accepted dw). Hope this explaination is pretty simple

bump

 

[CasperSenar]

The Scroll has an abstract mind, and mind hax. an apparently affect that. Is that what you're saying?

I'm sorry, the video linked for the transcendent meditation just shows someone unconscious and the video linked for the pagoda just shows what looks like normal mind hax on the guy.

Basically yeah

The meditation stuff is already accepted and not relevant in this CRT since we just focus on the scroll basically has AE1 mind for embodying everything including the part where The Pagoda was extracting minds to consume it (already accepted dw). Hope this explaination is pretty simple

Bump

 

[Arency]

The Scroll has an abstract mind, and mind hax. an apparently affect that. Is that what you're saying?

I'm sorry, the video linked for the transcendent meditation just shows someone unconscious and the video linked for the pagoda just shows what looks like normal mind hax on the guy.

Sorry man but this thread is being dragged out for too long, I think I can just put you in agreement for the thread, changing regen to healing and neutral on chaos mind manip for now

 

[Random-Helper323]

Sorry man but this thread is being dragged out for too long, I think I can just put you in agreement for the thread, changing regen to healing and neutral on chaos mind manip for now

Only the things I was okay with. You likely need one more approval though.