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Madness Combat Discussion Thread: Redeemer

Employe said:
Also, you possibly can argue Imm speed due to AMP "bypassing" the space between Nowhere and Somewhere (literally what has been stated and shown and he did so by just physically running)
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"you didn't exists has part of it's system" i didn't exists in reality?
 
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Settra

Settra, known by many titles such as "Settra the Imperishable,"[3] the "King of Kings,"[3] "High King of Nehekhara, the Khemrikara,"[3] "Lord of the Earth,"[3] "Monarch of the Sky,"[3] "Ruler of the Four Horizons,"[3] "Mighty Lion of the Infinite Desert,"[3] "Great Hawk of the Heavens,"[3]...
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Did he say "Settra Serves"?
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iirc, the 1-A stuff for warhammer is 3 layers into 1-A, meanwhile I think Player would only be 1 layer
 
Comiphorous said:
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Madness Combat Cosmology Blog

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Now this is a cosmology blog.
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Why you didn't mention The Nowhere? It even was implied to have its own space time due to Protagonist needing to "bypass" the space between Somewhere (Nevada) and Nowhere to reach the latter

Btw, if you want, I can show a statement from Swain which further supports The Other Place and Nevada having their own and space times
 
Employe said:
Why you didn't mention The Nowhere? It even was implied to have its own space time due to Protagonist needing to "bypass" the space between Somewhere (Nevada) and Nowhere to reach the latter

Btw, if you want, I can show a statement from Swain which further supports The Other Place and Nevada having their own and space times
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Because nobody can use that thing or it doesn't even make part of the cosmology in a practical sense.
 
Krinkels straigh up confirmed that Generarion 1 are demigods and Vendevice leader is G1

This doesn't tell much to us, but interesting to consider for future
 
It has been stated that each S-3LF by itself is a gateaway to The Other Place, and later when adressing to dissonant it was described as "some of these gateaway that remained after S-3LFs were filtered" as if they were the same
 
Employe said:
It has been stated that each S-3LF by itself is a gateaway to The Other Place, and later when adressing to dissonant it was described as "some of these gateaway that remained after S-3LFs were filtered" as if they were the same
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So what that will mean for the S-3LF?
 
1. Gives resistances to all S-3LFs from dissonant haxes
2. Further adds into S-3LF's abstract existence, due to being composed out of energy which embodies probability and etc. As well as adds into Non-physical interaction with characters being able to touch S-3LFs
3. Makes so that S-3LFs are potentially dangerous for other characters to absorb in crossverse
 
I don't remember him stating like this, but he did say that Magic and dissonant are different in the sense that the former works in the Machine (which is also stated in magical item's descriptions about Magic being a direct extension of The Machine's raw power) while dissonant doesn't
 
Employe said:
I don't remember him stating like this, but he did say that Magic and dissonant are different in the sense that the former works in the Machine (which is also stated in magical item's descriptions about Magic being a direct extension of The Machine's raw power) while dissonant doesn't
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BUT HOW IS MAGIC MORE LOGICAL?
 
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Guys, I drew some art of Hank. Originally I thought about linking my twitter post of this but I thought that maybe it would be against site rules, or something like that. So. Yuh
 
You know, i didn't think of it until now but if we can estimate the entire population of Nevada, we can do something similar to what undertale did here and multiply the population by the calcs we have right now and we'd probably get like tier 7 Final Encounter Gestalt.
 
I just based it off Hank's 9-A rating since Hofnarr, ATPs, and several other fodder enemies scale to that, based it off the population of real life Nevada, and i got large town level.
 
CitRusReality64 said:
Krinkles says that Nexus City is based on las Vegas I believe
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I just used the whole population of RL Nevada due to the size differences, and the fact Nexus City isn't the only place with Nevadeans in it. But i could use las vegas specifically just to see.
 
I'm heavily against trying to compare irl Nevada with Madness one.
Madness World is clearly different from ours and to try compare them is weird. Nevada is like a whole world here and not like a real Nevada which is kerely a state

Second, the only real estimate we have it is Nexus Core museum stating Nexus City has thousands of people in it. It is a pretty vague description but I think we at least can assert this as 3000+ (minimum)

Then we know thay Nevada Central is around as big as Nexus City, so it probably also has around 3000+ people
 
Employe said:
Second, the only real estimating we have it is Nexus Core museum stating Nexus City has thousands of people in it. It is a pretty vague description but I think we at least can assert this as 3000+ (minimum)
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Nexus City, by the name, is a city. you can easily assume 10,000 due to Nexus City being a Principal City.
Employe said:
Then we know thay Nevada Central is around as big as Nexus City, so it probably also has around 3000+ people
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Use this same logic we're at around 20,000 due to above. Then you have the bandits outside of civilization, which you can pile however many you think the bandits have.
 
Employe said:
This is fair, 20000 is the most minimum
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That's only accounting Nexus Core though. you'd have to include Bandits, AAHW, and N51 who aren't located in the Nexus City's borders (under normal circumstances) which adds a couple more thousands.
 
Shit here's how i'd do it. Since none of the main episodes take place in Nexus City, we can just take the kill count from those;

278 Grunts - Scales to 7.79 kilojoules (7.79x278 = 0.0005 tons)

745 Agents - Scales to 7.79 kilojoules (7.79x745 = 0.0014 tons)

143 Engineers - Unknown scaling (Won't be considered here due to unknown scaling)

50 Soldats - Scales to 101.8 megajoules (101.8x50 = 1.2165 tons)

7 Mag Agents - Scales to 637.54 Tons (637.54x7 = 4462.78 tons)

And then account for the 20,000 population of Nexus City, who should be at bare minimum be comparable to grunts, aka 7.79 kilojoules (7.79x20,000 = 0.0372 tons)

Add them all together, and you gettttt!!!!!

Final gestalt being 4464.0356 tons in total, or 4.5380 kilotons. Low 7-C+
 
I asked DarkSignal right now and he told me that N51 at their peak had 1500 units. However, Garrote's company was dismantled in Arena Mode + Nevadean Supermall, you have to keep it in the mind
 
Employe said:
I asked DarkSignal right now and he told me that N51 at their peak had 1500 units. However, Garrote's company was dismantled in Arena Mode + Nevadean Supermall, you have to keep it in the mind
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Above wasn't even considering Project Nexus. With project nexus i think he'd genuinely get to like 7-c through the sheer amount of Mag Agents that appear.
 
Btw Employe i saw the fanatic cult profiles you're making, I'll add them to the verse page.

We should probably make a standard G03LM page before we make any other specific G03LM page though, just so the abilities are consistent between them.
 
I also did Poltergeists (probably should have waited for S-3LFs to be added on Physiolohy Page first)
 
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Also, I realized that we now have more solid arguments for Auditor in his higher dimnesional form being in immeasurable speed by chain scaling it to Arena Protagonist's feat
 
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